[Holdek]

Sorry, but the government has gone overboard here and is probably in violation of the law. See we have a Bill of Rights that precludes spying on citizens without a warrant.

[gondramB]

"Sorry, but the government has gone overboard here and is probably in violation of the law. See we have a Bill of Rights that precludes spying on citizens without a warrant."

there is an exception to that - if the citizen is functioning as an enemy agent. But if any of these citizens were not enemy agents then there would be a problem . But we will never know because they can't release the intelligence. It's more of an election issue than anything else.

[Just A Nobody]

Perhaps you should read before commenting.

[Modok]

Take it to DU.

[Southack]

"Sorry, but the government has gone overboard here and is probably in violation of the law. See we have a Bill of Rights that precludes spying on citizens without a warrant."

You'd look less foolish if you actually read the article, first.

[MeanWestTexan]

"See we have a Bill of Rights that precludes spying on citizens without a warrant."

No, it does not. When applicable, it merely makes the date inadmissible in a criminal proceeding.

Further, the wiretaps are specifically authorized by FISA Article 1802.

Here:
http://www.nationalreview.com/robbins/robbins200512190859.asp

[angkor]

Read paragraph 5 again, carefully.

[indianrightwinger]

What who said that this activity was targeting citizens?

Did you have some classified information leaked to you that we are not privy to?

[UCANSEE2]

I think you need to do some more research.

[BushCountry]

The funny thing is that everyone going ballistic about their privacy are to stupid to realize they have none.

On my block alone there are six completely open wireless networks that a child could hack. There are at least a couple of million exposed computer network available to anyone with easily downloading tools found on the Internet. Most of these exposed business networks have tons and tons of info on other people. In addition, hackers, spyware, viruses, and adware ensure that there is no privacy on the Internet.

Heck, I could devise an antenna that can read your computer screen from a block away. The cord to the monitor emits a nice strong signal that can be translated.

Most cordless phones are easy to listen in on with a cheap scanner. Cell phones conversations are easy too, the equipment just costs a little bit more. Millions upon millions of cameras spying on us. It is myth to believe that there is privacy in the United States. Might as well believe in Santa Clause.

[EricT.]

Holdek
Since Dec 3, 2005

Welcome to FR.

[piasa]

Sorry, but the government has gone overboard here

Apparently not. Specify exactly what qualifies as "overboard."

and is probably in violation of the law.

In other words, you have absolutely no idea whether the government was in violation of the law or not.

See we have a Bill of Rights that precludes spying on citizens without a warrant.

Specify where you found this in the Bill of Rights, if you can- it might help back up your opinion.

[Arrowhead1952]

Sorry, but the government has gone overboard here and is probably in violation of the law. See we have a Bill of Rights that precludes spying on citizens without a warrant.

I suggest you read this before replying to these discussions.

50 USC 1802 Permits Warrantless Surveillance

Excerpt from linked article:

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1802. Electronic surveillance authorization without court order; certification by Attorney General; reports to Congressional committees; transmittal under seal; duties and compensation of communication common carrier; applications; jurisdiction of court

(a) (1) Notwithstanding any other law, the President, through the Attorney General, may authorize electronic surveillance without a court order under this subchapter to acquire foreign intelligence information for periods of up to one year if the Attorney General certifies in writing under oath that—

(A) the electronic surveillance is solely directed at—

(i) the acquisition of the contents of communications transmitted by means of communications used exclusively between or among foreign powers, as defined in section 1801 (a)(1), (2), or (3) of this title; or

[RinaseaofDs]

Back over to DU, troll. It's either that, or lurk, or begone.

Don't make me have to use the facts on you again! You'll get mad and cry and then get hungry and buy stuff at Wal-Mart as you curse the demise of Unions, and how all our jobs went to the Chinese.

[GRRRRR]

Sorry, but the government has gone overboard here and is probably in violation of the law. See we have a Bill of Rights that precludes spying on citizens without a warrant.

Shirley you can't be sirius??

We have been waiting for four years to find a single American Citizen that has had his civil rights violated without due process. If you know of one, please let me know.

INTERNATIONAL CALLS of suspected terrorists! RTFFP! G

[Just mythoughts]

"Sorry, but the government has gone overboard here and is probably in violation of the law. See we have a Bill of Rights that precludes spying on citizens without a warrant."


Please could you show which Right within the Bill of Rights protects terrorists? National security I do believe trumps terrorists rights, that is unless one follows the liberal method of operation. Liberalism has replace the Bill of Right with 'civil rights', so even under liberalism those Bill of Rights do not apply.