[Holdek]

That is because citizens of the United States have not been spied on before (at least to our knowledge) in a legal context. Hence the controversy!

[MeanWestTexan]

You mean before or after Robert Kennedy authorized wiretaps of people working in conjunction with our enemies?

Or FDR's wiretaps?

Not to mention all they did to round up Nazis in America during WWII.

The wiretap protections are creatures of LAW, not Constitution, especially when the proceedings are not uses in Court, as no "life, liberty, or property" is taken --- it is merely looked at.

There is no controversy other than the NYT being upset that the war in Iraq is well on its way to being won.

[gondramB]

"That is because citizens of the United States have not been spied on before (at least to our knowledge) in a legal context. Hence the controversy!"

Well actually abuses by government led to the law being passed in the first place.

[Arrowhead1952]

That is because citizens of the United States have not been spied on before (at least to our knowledge) in a legal context. Hence the controversy!

My just pegged.

search for 'Clinton wiretapped on U S citizens'

Clinton NSA Eavesdropped on U.S. Calls

Clinton NSA Eavesdropped on U.S. Calls

[Ecliptic]

This law (FISA) has been on the books since 1978..Jimmy Carter issued an executive order allowing the AG to OK such wire taps without warrants.....I would guess he had a reason besides filling up a piece of paper for issuing the order....

[Darksheare]

Hmm.. seems your hysteria is on the wrong track as information and history don't back you up.
You aren't from FR are you.

Got zot?

[daybreakcoming]

I came into this thread cold and had no intention of responding to anything but you took the cake. Why? Because you do not understand that you do not understand. Or is it because you wish to stir doubt with unfounded facts? I have seen that is an impossible task to try this with FReepers - you will go down losing because they will dig for facts rather than your "what ifs", "at least to our knowledge", "It doesn't really matter", "but that's neither here nor there.", "That is basic knowledge", and on and on.
You have taken on the wrong crowd this time.

[shield]

That is because citizens of the United States have not been spied on before (at least to our knowledge) in a legal context.

Boy talk about no knowledge of the past, you're now really showing your ignorance....ck out the yrs of the 'toons' administration...we were all listened to/spied on by those thugs.