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Now President Bush is Lying: Why?
NationalLedger.com ^ | Dec 20, 2005 | JB Williams

Posted on 12/20/2005 8:21:20 PM PST by PlainOleAmerican

In the President’s address to the nation Sunday the 18th, 2005, he made this statement, “It is true that Saddam Hussein had a history of pursuing and using weapons of mass destruction. It is true that he systematically concealed those programs, and blocked the work of U.N. weapons inspectors. It is true that many nations believed that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction. But much of the intelligence turned out to be wrong.”

This is the confession many Americans have been demanding for years now and for what-ever reason, the President decided to make this confession before the world community in this address. But is this a true and accurate assessment of the situation as we now know it, based on the facts?

(Excerpt) Read more at nationalledger.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: a; alqaeda; brokebackbrain; bush; bushlied; hussein; iraq; is; lie; moron; plainbrain; plainoldcrap; poster; stainoleamerican; terroism; troll; war; wmd; zotme; zotsfortots
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To: PlainOleAmerican

huh?


21 posted on 12/20/2005 8:29:29 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: PlainOleAmerican

Not only is the argument absurb at it's "face value" it's laughable...

Saddam was pursuing weapons of mass destruction, Libyia was a willing participant and admitted to housing the nuclear program for Saddam..... The Kurds were gassed by Saddam and numerous shells of Sarin gas have been found in Iraq (one ineffectively used against our troops as a IED)...

Truckloads of material were hauled to Syria prior to our attack...

We're still finding buried munitions and weapons....

This chapter is closed yet...


22 posted on 12/20/2005 8:29:51 PM PST by nevergore (“It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.”)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Sleeper troll. Check out the keywords. IBTZ.


23 posted on 12/20/2005 8:29:59 PM PST by rockinonritalin
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To: aft_lizard
his other posts seem to be on the up and up

His Nov. 29 posting was from the same author/same source.

24 posted on 12/20/2005 8:30:12 PM PST by PAR35
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To: PlainOleAmerican
Let's talk about Tokyo Rose, shall we?

Tokyo Rose's broadcasts to American troops during WW II, had a basic, three-pronged message:

Sound familiar?

25 posted on 12/20/2005 8:30:52 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: PlainOleAmerican

26 posted on 12/20/2005 8:30:55 PM PST by mysterio
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To: 43north
I would bet the farm Syria has Saddam's WMD's and Russia will stand in the way of our finding out that they are there because they helped too.
27 posted on 12/20/2005 8:31:06 PM PST by TheForceOfOne
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To: PlainOleAmerican

national alledger???

do you like kittens?


28 posted on 12/20/2005 8:31:59 PM PST by Nihil Obstat
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To: RedWing9
Alas, poor PlainOleAmerican.

I knew him, RedWing.


29 posted on 12/20/2005 8:32:03 PM PST by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: PlainOleAmerican

Good read.
You ain't no troll as far as I'm concerned!


30 posted on 12/20/2005 8:32:15 PM PST by CedarDave
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To: mysterio

31 posted on 12/20/2005 8:32:42 PM PST by al baby (Father of the beeber)
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To: PlainOleAmerican

This is an amazing article. Here's some more excerpt:

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In short, the intelligence from around the globe strongly suggested that Hussein still had WMD. As is always the case with intelligence work, it wasn’t 100% certain. However, the CIA Director did refer to it as a “slam dunk”. This was based primarily on the fact that we know he did have them, had even used them. Hussein was ordered by numerous UN Resolutions and a cease fire agreement from 1991 to destroy all of them and “provide evidence that they had been destroyed”, including full unfettered verification by UN inspectors. This simply did not happen… and every UN inspection report ever written on the subject says so.

There remained a large cashe of WMD unaccounted for by UN inspectors for years. These unaccounted for WMD remained at issue after 9/11 and nobody could confirm the whereabouts of Iraq’s missing WMD, previously catalogued by UN inspectors themselves. After Hussein failed for the 17th time to provide evidence of their disposal, the Bush administration acted to implement the regime change policy established in 1998.

We also know that Senator Jay Rockefeller traveled to Syria less than four months after 9/11 to advise Hussein’s allies that he believed Bush was intent upon invading Iraq. See Rockefeller’s Treachery.

We know that following that trip, CIA operatives reported Iraqi military convoys carrying something across the Syrian border and this became the centerpiece of Colin Powell’s case to the UN Security Council, including satellite images of the convoys. It was later reported by The World Tribune on August 26, 2003, “U.S. intelligence suspects Iraq's weapons of mass destruction have finally been located. Unfortunately, getting to them will be nearly impossible for the United States and its allies, because the containers with the strategic materials are not in Iraq. Instead they are located in Lebanon's heavily-fortified Bekaa Valley, swarming with Iranian and Syrian forces, and Hizbullah and ex-Iraqi agents.”

By June of 2004, The World Tribune reported “The United Nations has determined that Saddam Hussein shipped weapons of mass destruction components as well as medium-range ballistic missiles before, during and after the U.S.-led war against Iraq in 2003. The UN Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission briefed the Security Council on new findings that could help trace the whereabouts of Saddam's missile and WMD program.”

“The briefing contained satellite photographs that demonstrated the speed with which Saddam dismantled his missile and WMD sites before and during the war. Council members were shown photographs of a ballistic missile site outside Baghdad in May 2003, and then saw a satellite image of the same location in February 2004, in which facilities had disappeared.”

So is it true? Did U.S. and world-wide intelligence agencies have it all wrong? Or did we simply arrive in Iraq after the vast majority of unaccounted for WMD had been systematically moved outside of Iraq?

Then there is the little matter of what we did find in Iraq, which nobody including the President wants to discuss. On June 23 of 2004, U.S. Forces found and removed 1.77 metric tons of enriched uranium from a nuclear facility in Iraq. The Department of Energy, according to spokesman Bryan Wilkes, cataloged the removal of radioactive materials in “powder form” (easily deployed and dispersed), the worst kind of WMD post 9/11.

Tipped off by Iraqi citizens, the Polish Military spent $5000. a pop to purchase seventeen chemical-weapons warheads buried in the sand, in an effort to keep them off of the black market and out of the hands of terrorist organizations operating in Iraq. These warheads tested positive for “cyclosarin”, a nerve agent reportedly five times the strength of “sarin”.

In addition, U.S. troops found 1500 gallons of chemical agents in a Mosul warehouse in August of 2005. There are more incidents, but you get the point. These are all WMD, some of the very WMD we were concerned could end up in the wrong hands and all found in Iraq.

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32 posted on 12/20/2005 8:32:46 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Jet Jaguar
Let PlainOleAmerican answer.

How long should we give him to think up a comment for his own post?

33 posted on 12/20/2005 8:32:52 PM PST by PAR35
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To: mysterio
Oh yeah?!?

Take this!


34 posted on 12/20/2005 8:32:52 PM PST by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: PlainOleAmerican

Did you lie in your earlier posts?


35 posted on 12/20/2005 8:33:15 PM PST by rockinonritalin
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To: PlainOleAmerican
Hey troll here's one for you.

Have you ever thought your being used by the one worlders? The dembos have taken there talking points from Tokyo Rose:

Here are the Three Main Points that Tokyo Rose used in every program to break the will of America's fighting men and women.

1. She told them that their President was lying to them.

2. She told them that they were fighting a war they couldn't win.

3. She told them they were fighting because the big corporations wanted things in Japan and SE Asia.

Are we hearing these same things right now?

36 posted on 12/20/2005 8:33:42 PM PST by shield (The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instructions.Pr 1:7)
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To: RedWing9

What are you taling about?


37 posted on 12/20/2005 8:33:44 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: CedarDave

I would run your spyware. Got three warning from mine when I tried to read the article. I bailed on reading it. That site is toxic


38 posted on 12/20/2005 8:33:51 PM PST by MNJohnnie (We do not create terrorism by fighting the terrorists. We invite terrorism by ignoring them.--GWBush)
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To: MNJohnnie

What software are you running?


39 posted on 12/20/2005 8:35:11 PM PST by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: Lancey Howard
We also know that Senator Jay Rockefeller traveled to Syria less than four months after 9/11 to advise Hussein’s allies that he believed Bush was intent upon invading Iraq. See Rockefeller’s Treachery.

Rockefeller is up to his arse in all this, I think he is the leaker to the NY Times.
40 posted on 12/20/2005 8:35:29 PM PST by TheForceOfOne
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