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DEA's pot raid draws protests
The Sacramento Bee (CA) ^ | December 15, 2005 | Robert D. Dávila

Posted on 12/21/2005 9:39:56 AM PST by Know your rights

[...] Organizers blasted the federal Drug Enforcement Administration for targeting businesses that are legal under Proposition 215, a California law that permits marijuana use for medical treatment. Demonstrators said the action would restrict access to regulated pot shops for seriously ill patients. [...] "They didn't do any arrests, just took drugs and computers," said Paula "Cookey" Brown. "It just seems like a straight armed robbery." [...]

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: 4thamendment; abovethelaw; bogartthatjoint; bongbrigade; camelssnose; dea; hesbaaaack; himrleroy; jackboots; liberaltarians; marijuana; medicalmarijuana; mrleroy; onetrickpony; potheads; thatsmrleroytoyou; wodlist
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To: robertpaulsen
You only obey those laws you agree with, not those the majority of the people passed. I forgot.

In my opinion, there is honor in disobeying unjust laws. Rosa Parks is the obvious example of this. I also have the utmost respect for folks who disobey gun licensing and registration laws.

Hope you and yours are having a great Christmas.

21 posted on 12/25/2005 12:01:19 PM PST by jmc813
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To: robertpaulsen
Actually, the dispensaries are breaking federal law AND state law -- they are not allowed to sell medical marijuana under Proposition 215.

Just curious. How are the dispensaries remunerated? Are they supposed to be compensated by the state?

22 posted on 12/25/2005 5:31:08 PM PST by JTN ("We must win the War on Drugs by 2003." - Dennis Hastert, Feb. 25 1999)
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To: jmc813
"Rosa Parks is the obvious example of this"

You're equating racial discrimination with our current drug laws? Please.

23 posted on 12/25/2005 5:39:51 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: JTN
"How are the dispensaries remunerated? Are they supposed to be compensated by the state?"

When the citizens of the State of California passed Proposition 215, they envisioned medical marijuana patients either growing their own or obtaining it (free) from a caregiver who grew it for them and/or others.

Proposition 215 does not authorize the sale of marijuana for any reason. The sale of marijuana for any reason in California is against state law (felony) and against federal law.

Why is the State of California going against the will of the people and not enforcing this law? You DO believe in the rule of law, don't you?

24 posted on 12/25/2005 5:54:29 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
When the citizens of the State of California passed Proposition 215, they envisioned medical marijuana patients either growing their own or obtaining it (free) from a caregiver who grew it for them and/or others.

And even more narrowly, it was supposed to be their primary caregiver.

26 posted on 12/26/2005 6:04:14 AM PST by Mojave
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To: robertpaulsen
You're equating racial discrimination with our current drug laws?

It's outrageous how pot smokers have to ride in the back of the bus!

27 posted on 12/26/2005 6:10:35 AM PST by Mojave
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To: Mojave
"And even more narrowly, it was supposed to be their primary caregiver."

And even more narrowly, "(e) For the purposes of this section, ''primary caregiver" means the individual designated by the person exempted under this section who has consistently assumed responsibility for the housing, health, or safety of that person.

28 posted on 12/26/2005 7:03:32 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: Mojave
"It's outrageous how pot smokers have to ride in the back of the bus!"

We shall (cough) overcome, dude.

29 posted on 12/26/2005 7:04:48 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
You're equating racial discrimination with our current drug laws? Please.

No. I'm being philisophic and saying that it's sometimes morally OK to disobey the law. Would you agree with the two examples I provided?

30 posted on 12/26/2005 7:14:36 AM PST by jmc813
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To: jmc813
Here at NORML, we receive at least one phone call or email per day from a victim of cannabis prohibition declaring themselves and their criminal case “the next Rosa Parks.”
Ghouls.
31 posted on 12/26/2005 7:20:21 AM PST by Mojave
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To: jmc813
"Would you agree with the two examples I provided?"

No, I wouldn't.

You think you can end discrimination by writing laws protecting people like Rosa Parks? You think things will be better in this country if people are forced to allow Rosa Parks to sit in the front of the bus?

I mean if you, personally, have something against the licensing and registration of certain weapons, you are free to ignore the law. But don't think you're acting in some sort of high-level moral capacity, understandable and acceptable by society in general.

Stealing bread to feed your family, "pulling the plug" on a loved one in pain ... these are understandable, albeit illegal, actions. Refusing to register an illegal machine gun ... well, I doubt you'll get much sympathy in a court of law.

Work to change the laws. Get a consensus. Campaign to change the hearts and minds. Educate people. That's the way it's done. That way it's permanent.

32 posted on 12/26/2005 7:39:06 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
You think things will be better in this country if people are forced to allow Rosa Parks to sit in the front of the bus?

If it were a private company that would be one thing, but the bus was run by a government agency. You bet I think things are better off that way.

Stealing bread to feed your family, "pulling the plug" on a loved one in pain ... these are understandable, albeit illegal, actions. Refusing to register an illegal machine gun ... well, I doubt you'll get much sympathy in a court of law. Work to change the laws. Get a consensus. Campaign to change the hearts and minds. Educate people. That's the way it's done. That way it's permanent.

The unique problem with firearms is that by the time one works to change those laws, it might be too late. Ensuring that there is an armed populace, legal or not, is absolutely moral. In fact, in my opinion, complying with these laws would actually be immoral.

33 posted on 12/26/2005 8:40:02 AM PST by jmc813
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To: jmc813
the bus was run by a government agency

So the local government agency, not Rosa Parks, was violating the law. The comparison with dope fails.

34 posted on 12/26/2005 8:49:19 AM PST by Mojave
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To: robertpaulsen
You do believe in the rule of law, don't you MrLeRoy?

Absolutely ... the state should take acton against those breaking state law.

Oh, wait. You only obey those laws you agree with, not those the majority of the people passed.

No, that's another of the straw men you choose to battle rather than taking on my actual positions.

35 posted on 12/26/2005 8:58:08 AM PST by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: creedence
I could care less about some potheads whining.

So why did you post?

36 posted on 12/26/2005 9:06:08 AM PST by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: Neville72
Dude, you're from Louisiana, you've got no room to bag on California.
37 posted on 12/26/2005 9:11:00 AM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: Mojave

Roscoe, is that you?


38 posted on 12/26/2005 9:14:25 AM PST by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: Mojave
So the local government agency, not Rosa Parks, was violating the law.

Kindly explain why the driver was not arrested and Parks was.

39 posted on 12/26/2005 9:29:42 AM PST by jmc813
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To: 68 grunt
Roscoe, is that you?

It is. Even though the debating tactics he's using on this thread are weak, it is nice to have a somewhat intelligent anti-WOD poster other than Paulsen back around here.

40 posted on 12/26/2005 9:31:42 AM PST by jmc813
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