Who has proposed such a thing?
Posted on 12/29/2005 9:01:59 AM PST by Nicholas Conradin
This will be remembered as the year in which mass surveillance became normal, even popular. Revelations about the Bush administration's domestic eavesdropping rocked the civil liberties establishment, but the country as a whole didn't seem upset. Instead, the American people, mindful of the possible danger that we face, seem happy enough that Uncle Sam is taking steps to keep up with the challenges created by new technology. Ask yourself: Do you think it's a bad idea for the feds, as U.S. News & World Report mentioned, to monitor Islamic sites inside the United States for any possible suspicious radiation leaks?
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Internet message boards tend to accentuate that, don't they? And politics (sound bites) in general. Oh well . . .
A number of years ago, there was a book titled Cultural Literacy. It summarized, more or less, knowledge assumed to be common among our American culture. Things and concepts assumed to be common knowledge, in both senses of the word.
Among these was the concept of a "false dichotomy"
False dichotomies have been the staple diet of the losers, the "Progressives", the Socialists, the "Democrats", and here we have an all time classic.
As many Freepers will probably agree, my Civil Liberties do not feel threatened in any way, and no amount of goading by the clueless is likely to change that. On the other hand, my Civil Liberties are being shredded under the guise of "Hate Crimes" and other "Thought Crimes".
This threat is not only a lot more serious, but more real, palpable and pervasive. There is an ongoing frenzy of laws being passed that are blatant attacks on Civil Liberties, with (hate crimes) or without (second-hand smoke)scientific or legal justification.
My original statement was that I dont feel like my civil rights have been violated by the knowledge that the NSA is tapping comm between americans and known terrorists if prior rulings have allowed for it in time of war.
What does that have to do with what little I know of the NSA's activities in the late 1960's? I guess I found it a tad odd and inappropriate for you to leap into some dark description of what they do in relation to my original statement.
Scariest thing I've read in a long time.
There is increasing evidence (as a result of treason) that the NSA, FBI, CIA does not exclusively employ the best mentally and emotionally balanced from among our population.
What good would qualms do? If you don't tell them the truth, you go to jail.
You didn't know that the OANG, is spoofing that address?
Nope! L0L
Constitutionally Gauranteed Rights over "Safety" any day of the week.
The Constitution is NOT negotiable under any circumstance.
In two cases, The Roman Reublic became the Roman Empire, the United States won the Civil War, and any changes for the worse resulted from the democratic political process.
And what became of them is irrelevant to the question. The historical reality is that faced with civil liberties, and no sense of security, or security and impaired civil liberties, people take security every time.
False "choice". Nonsense title.
Do you think the forth amendment is important?
are saying that almost every type of Comm is monitored?
Incorrect.
I may or may not have screwed up the semantics but you understand my larger point. "Freedom" vs "security" is not a binary decision, it's largely a balance. Thanks for spurring me to clarify.
Who has proposed such a thing?
I always liked that film! Thanks for reminder - I might watch it this weekend.
Have a nice day.
:)
Well said. Our Constitution is not a libertarian document.
You too.
thanks
This will be remembered as the year in which mass surveillance became normal, even popular
Bullsplatter
This is the year that the New York Times pushed the issue with treasonous acts in order to try and impeach a president who won't buckle to their socialist veiws and agendas.
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