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(Vanity) Our government has passed a bill which rewards businesses for stealing employee's property
George

Posted on 12/30/2005 10:50:38 AM PST by George14

The tip credit is the bill that has allowed business to pay their tipped employees $2.13 an hour. However, the tip credit can only be taken if an employee receives tips. Employees who do not receive tip income must be paid $5.15 or more depending on the state laws governing minimum wage. If an employer will take part of his tipped employee's tips and give them to other workers whom customers have not tipped, our government will reward them by allowing the employer to pay these other workers wages below the minimum wage requirements of this country.

For example, A business has 3 waiters, 3 busboys, 3 food runners and 2 hostesses. The three waiters each receive $120.00 a day in tips. Because the three waiters receive tips from our public our federal government has determined that the business onwer should be allowed to pay them less in hourly wages and finacially benefit himself from the fact that our public has given some of his employee's tips. This is bad enough considering that customers are not tipping so that business owners can finacially benefit themselves to the customer's tip. To make matters worse, our federal government went even farther than unjustly allowing businesses to benefit themselves to the tips presented certain workers in the service industry. This bill, the tip credit, also rewards businesses for stealing their employee's tips. In the above scenario where three waiters each receive $120 in tips during a days work, the business owner will be rewarded by our federal government if the business will simply steal part of those waiters tips and give them to their other workers such as the food runners, the busboys and the hostesses. You see, If the employer will take tips from the waiter and give them to these other workers, our federal government will then allow the business to pay these others workers $2.13 an hour. Instead of having to pay the busboys, the hostesses and the food runners $5.15, our government will allow the business owner to pay these employees as little as $2.13 an hour if and only if the employer steals the waiter's tips and gives them to these other workers. What this means to the employer is that his own income for the day can be increased if and only if he steals his waiter's tip and gives them to other workers whom the customer had every right and ability to tip but didn't.

Our federal government has passed a bill that rewards business owners for stealing the tips our public presents certain workers in the service industry. This criminal act by our federal government is now officially exposed and as such we the people will expect that this injustice cease. Our government is expected to uphold and protect our country, not blatantly reward people for stealing other people's property. Either the tip credit must be repealed or our current government must be repealed. The choice is their's.


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1 posted on 12/30/2005 10:50:40 AM PST by George14
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To: George14

Gee George, you seem to be fixated on this subject.


2 posted on 12/30/2005 10:52:17 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim ("We're a meat-based society.")
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To: George14

You are right. Do away with tips and pay them all $5.15 an hour.


3 posted on 12/30/2005 10:53:51 AM PST by Misplaced Texan
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To: George14

The minimum wage could be repealed.


4 posted on 12/30/2005 10:55:43 AM PST by fzx12345 (Three lefts don't make a right; they invent one.)
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To: George14

Two thoughts. Tip the waitresses in cash. If employers spread the tips that thin they won't have any employees.


5 posted on 12/30/2005 10:55:56 AM PST by saganite (The poster formerly known as Arkie 2)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

I gotta a tip for you: Blue Bell in the fifth.


6 posted on 12/30/2005 10:56:21 AM PST by barj
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To: George14

> ... by allowing the employer to pay these other workers
> wages below the minimum wage requirements of this country.

I suspect a majority of posters on this site would support
abolishing the minimum wage altogether, rather than trying
(and failing) to address its unintended consequences with
tip gambits, training wages, and the social burden of those
whose are employable but not yet performaning at MW levels.

Bottom line is: when you take a job, figure out the total
compensation package. If you can beat it elsewhere, go there.


7 posted on 12/30/2005 10:56:38 AM PST by Boundless
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To: barj

Never drink anything stronger than gin before breakfast, that's a good tip.


8 posted on 12/30/2005 10:57:38 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim ("We're a meat-based society.")
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To: George14

Umm, thanks. I'll have a Chicken Fried Steak, Fries, and Iced Tea.


9 posted on 12/30/2005 10:58:23 AM PST by BTHOtu
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To: saganite
Two thoughts. Tip the waitresses in cash. If employers spread the tips that thin they won't have any employees.

Ever since I discovered that some businesses steal tips intended for a specific person, I tip only in cash, no exceptions.

Thirty years, now, and counting...

10 posted on 12/30/2005 11:04:22 AM PST by Publius6961 (The IQ of California voters is about 420........... .............cumulatively)
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To: George14
A tip is a freewill gift from a private citizen to another. Tips should not be allowed to offset the minimum wage and should not be taxed.

Without good servers (servers that usually get good tips) a restaurant is screwed. Some restaurants will even fire servers that don't report enough tips.

This brings up another issue if a restaurant takes a server's tips and redistributes them back to the server and other employees then that tip money is income to the restaurant and the redistribution is ordinary income to the recipients. But wait, the employer does not pay the payroll tax on tips and the recipients are forced to do so. What's up with that.

11 posted on 12/30/2005 11:06:04 AM PST by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

But I thought "Early Time" was a breakfast drink!


12 posted on 12/30/2005 11:06:58 AM PST by barj
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To: Publius6961

Your tagline reminds me of an old Air Force joke.

What do you call a fighter pilot with an IQ of 160?
A four ship.


13 posted on 12/30/2005 11:11:47 AM PST by saganite (The poster formerly known as Arkie 2)
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To: Mike Darancette
Charlie Trotter pays his front of house staff a LARGE salary. $50K/year if I recall correctly. They pool tips as well.

And Charlie Trotter is VERY successful.

/john

14 posted on 12/30/2005 11:15:38 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (D@mit! I'm just a cook. Don't make me come over there and prove it!)
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To: Mike Darancette
A tip is a freewill gift from a private citizen to another. Tips should not be allowed to offset the minimum wage and should not be taxed.

Bingo, we have a conservative.

I also detest those "gratuity will be added to parties of X or more" deals. I will divide the party into the necessary quantities and sit them at tables next to each other to avoid it. As if bad service suddenly demands a tip when it would not have deserved it otherwise just because the party is larger.
15 posted on 12/30/2005 11:16:51 AM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: barj
I gotta a tip for you: Blue Bell in the fifth.

Blue Horseshoe loves Blue Star Airlines.

16 posted on 12/30/2005 11:18:24 AM PST by T.Smith
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To: George14
Since you're so upset about this I suggest you quit your waitress job.

btw, I hear McDonald's is hiring and they DO pay minimum wage.

17 posted on 12/30/2005 11:18:25 AM PST by Condor51 (Leftists are moral and intellectual parasites - Standing Wolf)
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To: DJ MacWoW

George Inn?


18 posted on 12/30/2005 11:24:40 AM PST by NoCmpromiz (That depends on what "is" is...)
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To: Publius6961
Ever since I discovered that some businesses steal tips intended for a specific person, I tip only in cash, no exceptions.

We always got tipped in cash but it made no difference. If I got $60 in tips that week, it was deducted from my check. The waitresses wondered if our tips equaled more than our check, would we owe the owner money?

19 posted on 12/30/2005 11:32:00 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim; barj

Another good tip: 'Don't let your *ick ruin your life'.


20 posted on 12/30/2005 11:32:19 AM PST by GaltMeister (“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.”)
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