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To: Alamo-Girl; betty boop; hosepipe; .30Carbine
My two cents: the "image" does not refer to anything corporeal, in space/time, flesh or blood . . .

This matter has been batted about at length by theologians. My take from a layman's point of view: The form God took in order to redeem all of creation, coupled with numerous biblical texts denoting God as having anthropological features, leads me to understand that corporeal and incorporeal realities are not separate but coterminous, just like science and theology. One reason among many the Christ was rejected is His claim: "Before Abraham was, I AM." All that science has to explore is a corporeal manifestation of God and/or His handiwork.

Much has been written as to whether the Christ's human nature was assumed only at the point of incarnation, or whether to some degree His human nature was present in the pre-incarnate Christ, who is often understood to be the Rock from which the Israelites drank in the desert; the Angel of the Lord; the one with whom Jacob wrestled. The Apostle Paul bluntly writes of Christ by the Spirit: "Who is the image of the invisible God." Even more pointed the words of Christ: "He who sees Me sees the One who sent Me."

From this it is keenly apparent that the designer of the universe takes an intimate interest in humankind. Those instances where the essence of God is most clearly revealed are those where He divests Himself of all that separates humankind from Himself, and accommodates Himself out of pure goodness and mercy.

If the scientific world were totally separate from the theological world and was intended to be as such from the beginning, then the chasm would be inapproachable. As it stands, God is as scientific and theological as it gets, with the distinction between the two being a humanly developed means of forcing a separation - for whatever personal reasons a particular observer, or group of observers, might harbor.

One can hardly be so biased as to state and assume from the outset that God is beyond the purview of science. Such a bias may prove helpful for short term gains in knowledge, but the bigger picture - the longer lasting and more reasonable picture - is one with a single creator bringing about a universe that demonstrates organized matter behaving according to laws, and a universe in which He is willing and able to intervene much as humans are able intervene on a smaller scale in matters where they, too, have "created" things.

1,045 posted on 01/08/2006 10:48:47 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Lots of amens to that post! Thanks for including me in the ping to it.


1,046 posted on 01/08/2006 10:58:15 AM PST by .30Carbine (Christ is All, and is In All. Amen.)
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To: Fester Chugabrew; betty boop; hosepipe; .30Carbine
Thank you for your reply and for sharing your musings and insights!

IMHO, people tend to be anthropomorphic in their reasoning – even scientists who have dismissed the profoundly improbable fine tuning of the universe with the moniker of the “anthropic principle”. It is their way of saying “Nature did it” to foreclose inquiry. Strangely they complain when religionists do the same by declaring “God did it”.

But the tendency of any theologian to anthropomorphize God grates against the Spirit who indwells me. Man was created, he is in no way the Creator. It is not a chicken/egg thing; there was a beginning of "all that there is" and man could not have spiritually or physically existed in the void.

God is Spirit (John 4:24). He chose to give the physical body of man two eyes; if we are made physically in His image, He might have given us seven eyes (Revelation 5:6) The biomechanisms we have to hear or see or speak are completely beside the point. (Luke 19:40) His will is the point, the purpose of both this heaven and earth and the next (Genesis to Revelation).

I obviously do not see the physical and spiritual as coterminous. Following is the understanding which rings True in the Spirit who indwells me:

So also [is] the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption: It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power: It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. And so it is written, the first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam [was made] a quickening spirit. Howbeit that [was] not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. The first man [is] of the earth, earthy: the second man [is] the Lord from heaven. As [is] the earthy, such [are] they also that are earthy: and as [is] the heavenly, such [are] they also that are heavenly. And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.— I Corinthians 15:42–48


1,057 posted on 01/08/2006 12:22:37 PM PST by Alamo-Girl (Monthly is the best way to donate to Free Republic!)
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