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VANITY: Trailer on TV for BrokeBack Mountain intentionally misleading

Posted on 01/07/2006 5:11:11 AM PST by rlmorel

I know there have been a lot of threads about this, but I haven't heard this angle. I don't watch TV, but poked my head in for the sports segment of the news...and when a commercial came on, it was a preview for "BrokeBack Mountain".

Now, I know that previews often don't tell you much about a movie, but this one really took the cake. If you watched this preview, you saw: Beautiful country, nice sunsets, handsome men on horses, good looking women with men kissing them in a bed, etc. There was NOTHING that might indicate to you the controversial nature of the movie. I thought it was intentionally misleading, the way it was constructed.

I realized, the people who are hyping this movie (and the hype was first and foremost in the preview..."Highly Acclaimed...Best Picture...", etc.) are in the same position that liberals are with respect to their politics.

They cannot let people know the true nature of the film, the way liberal politicians cannot let their constituents know the true nature of their politics. As Richard Nixon once said about Alger Hiss: "If the American people knew the real nature of Alger Hiss, they would boil him in oil...", so would a large percentage of Americans who vote for liberal politicians without understanding their true nature.

And so it is with this film. I can easily see some people going to see it based on the preview, and being unpleasantly surprised. But perhaps not, I suppose one would need to live under a rock to be surprised.

Jay Severin, a libertarian/conservative radio talk show host in the Massachusetts area (yes...as strange as that sounds) put it best when he said that this part of a concerted effort by hollywood liberals to deconstruct America, take everything about it that is good, and corrupt or destroy it. He said (and I agree) the message it sends is "This is perfectly normal and common behavior amongst cowboys..." There is a lot to quibble about in this general statement, they are not cowboys, this is not portrayed as normal, etc. But I do not think the substance of what Mr. Severin said is wrong. When one looks at the hype of this homosexual movie, and where it comes from, I agree with him.


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KEYWORDS: ads; brokeback; bungherders; deceit; demlies; deviance; hollyweird; homosexualagenda; pudding
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To: rlmorel

I saw the same ad and reached the same conclusion. They arent telling anyone what the movie is about...


41 posted on 01/07/2006 7:20:31 AM PST by cardinal4
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To: Boazo

"Haywood Yablowmie"

One of my favorite names. :-)


42 posted on 01/07/2006 7:30:00 AM PST by gate2wire
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To: Sterco

I am not saying that they are going to get rich. I am just saying that they made their money and then some. Sad!!!

Released in US December 9, 2005 (limited)
Total US Gross $16,748,000
Production Budget $13,000,000
MPAA Rating R for sexuality, nudity, language and some violence.


43 posted on 01/07/2006 7:36:27 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: bulldozer

DAvid Kupelian also wrote an excellent review of the movie called "Brokeback Mountain: Rape of the Marlboro Man" - the agenda here is not so hidden. The pervs of Hollywood have taken over the industry to de-sensitize and normalize behavior that is neither normal nor moral. The trailers on TV are deceptive. People who go to this movie and are upset once they find out the truth need to get up out of their seats and go to the Management demanding their money back, or at the very least - a pass to another movie. Make a scene, folks. You have been lied to and ripped off. Not everyone has a computer to find out what is really going on.

Here is the link:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=48076


44 posted on 01/07/2006 7:42:00 AM PST by Sioux-san (God save the Sheeple)
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To: ishabibble

Million Dollar Baby was a true "bait and switch." I wanted to see the movie for the precise reason that it was played up as a female Rocky flick - good characters, good story, right? Wrong! It turns out to be another euthanasia movie getting rid of people who are damaged. Thank God I read a review that was honest about this movie and the reviewer had the decency to "spoil the secret." Sorry, Clint, love ya, but you didn't get any of my money for that one.

At the time Million Dollar Baby came out, I was working with a young woman who is engaged to a young man who was in a terrible truck accident. He is a quadriplegic now living his life in a motorized wheelchair. They love to go to the movies and went to Million Dollar Baby totally unaware of the story line. Needless to say, the young man was pretty depressed afterwards. Despicable.


45 posted on 01/07/2006 7:51:57 AM PST by Sioux-san (God save the Sheeple)
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To: Sioux-san
Million Dollar Baby was a true "bait and switch."

I am glad I am not the only that sees that. The adds they are doing about BrokeBack Mountain are defiantly misleading.
46 posted on 01/07/2006 8:05:09 AM PST by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: rlmorel
There was NOTHING that might indicate to you the controversial nature of the movie.

But if they'd shown any faggotry on the commercial, Freepers would have complained about that, too.

47 posted on 01/07/2006 8:11:40 AM PST by Physicist
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To: rellimpank
--"you two don't go up there just to fish, do you--"

Well, I guess they go "fly" fishing.

48 posted on 01/07/2006 8:14:50 AM PST by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: rlmorel

I know that my daughter-in-law didn't know what the movie was about. She was shocked when I told her.


49 posted on 01/07/2006 8:16:11 AM PST by tiki
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To: cvq3842

Personally, I like Jake Gyllenhaal. I've seen him in a number of movies, such as "Proof" and "Donnie Darko". It really unnerves me that he has made the decision to act in Brokeback.

You're right, I'll never be able to watch this talented kid in a movie without thinking, "ick".


50 posted on 01/07/2006 8:33:48 AM PST by Darnright (Remember that a lone amateur built the Ark. A large group of professionals built the Titanic.)
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To: rlmorel

A lot of movie commercials are misleading. That's just how it is in marketing Hollywood. The goal is to get as many people into the theaters as possible. And no one, unless they've been living under a rock, is clueless about BBM's plot. I have to ask this, though, and if I get flamed, so be it. Why is portraying two gay men any more offensive than movies that show murders, rapes, adultry, etc? We seem to accept movies that involve other sins and vices, yet everyone is up in arms about two gay guys?.Are people upset because being gay is becoming mainstream? Adultry is mainstream (WAY before Bill Clinton, I might add) in the media, yet most people find it disgusting. It's the plot of many movies, tv shows, books, etc. Murder? Don't get me started. Half the tv shows and movies wouldn't exist without murder in the plot. Yet most of us aren't indoctrinated into the "murdering" lifestyle by watching a stupid movie.

If you don't like the movie, don't watch it.


51 posted on 01/07/2006 11:24:58 AM PST by coop71 (Being a redhead means never having to say you're sorry...)
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To: rlmorel

I recall some time ago that the libs and the DemoRATS ensure that plenty of wierdos attend certain movies by telling their wacko contingents to buy as many tickets to certain movies or events, or even books that they can in order to boost the ratings on this type of trash.

I recall a report somewhere that when Hitlery's book was published that the libs bought cases of them, even though they were not read, in order to get her book on the best seller list.


52 posted on 01/07/2006 12:47:49 PM PST by KeyLargo
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To: Mike Darancette

I actually said in the last paragraph of my vanity: "...There is a lot to quibble about in this general statement, they are not cowboys..."

So, I am aware of the difference, as are you.

What percentage of people who see the preview or movie will make that distinction? Not many, perhaps. It will be a movie about gay cowboys, not gay shepherds.


53 posted on 01/07/2006 1:13:00 PM PST by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: bulldozer
"... the camera keeps staring as kisses give way to anal sex. (There's no nudity shown, but the sequence is explicit; it includes sexual motions and sounds.)..."


54 posted on 01/07/2006 1:15:56 PM PST by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: rlmorel
It will be a movie about gay cowboys, not gay shepherds.

Those two guys might have had a wee bit of trouble living in a bunkhouse and singing show tunes around the campfire at roundup time. :-)

55 posted on 01/07/2006 1:18:06 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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To: Physicist

But if they'd shown any faggotry on the commercial, Freepers would have complained about that, too.

True. But for different reasons, as I am sure you can guess.


56 posted on 01/07/2006 1:18:17 PM PST by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: gate2wire

I had the same reaction. Isn't there a law about truth in advertising?


57 posted on 01/07/2006 1:22:25 PM PST by superfluousdude
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To: KC_Conspirator

I also think they want to get people in the theater to up the outrage. Then there are more stories about intolerant America, blah, blah, blah. The theater owners have to be hating it, though, because they must be handing out free passes by the handful.


58 posted on 01/07/2006 1:23:33 PM PST by AmishDude
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To: Sioux-san

Let me disagree on your perspective on the euthenasia issue in Million Dollar Baby,a film I truly thought was excellent.
I see the point that euthenasia could be used in a Hitlerian way to get rid of those who are not "fit" and I certainly think people like Kevorkian are ghouls.
HOWEVER-lets be honest-if YOU were the girl in Million Dollar Baby and you faced a life in a semi-vegatative state,what would YOU do?
Personally,I would have done what the Eastwood character did.
Flame away.


59 posted on 01/07/2006 1:35:08 PM PST by Riverman94610
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To: napscoordinator
You know, I've been wondering about the whole box office deal with this movie. First, the economics of Hollywood make it so that having the gross exceed the production budget does not nearly make a profit. Different movies are different. King Kong will net the studio up to 90% of the gross in the first couple of weeks. Brokeback Mountain cannot demand that kind of ratio so the studio is making a lot less. Second, it's not a DVD winner, there are no properties like video games and it won't do great guns overseas like some action films do (despite the praise by European film festivals).

Second, I cannot believe that the production budget was only $14 million. You have a top-rated director (despite The Hulk), and several stars with high recognition. Perhaps they are all working for scale just to make this "important" movie, but consider this: The production budget for Farenheit 9/11 was $6 million. And Moore didn't have to pay anyone beyond a few camera/lighting guys (well, and an army of editors). I'm figuring the $6 million was all catering costs. I think the $14 million is seriously understated.

60 posted on 01/07/2006 1:38:13 PM PST by AmishDude
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