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Murtha's War Hero Status Called Into Question
cnsnews.com ^ | 1/13/05 | By Marc Morano and Randy Hall

Posted on 01/13/2006 11:53:53 AM PST by paltz

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To: Wristpin

" A May 12, 2002, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette article reported that "Marine Corps casualty records show that Murtha was injured in 'hostile' actions near Danang, Vietnam, on March 22, 1967 and May 7, 1967."

Ahhh...Someone has their dates wrong.
From Murtha's website http://www.house.gov/murtha/awards.shtml#military

Bronze Star with Combat V, 1966.

Purple Heart, 1966.

Purple Heart, second award, 1966.

Vietnamese Cross of Galantry, 1966.


401 posted on 01/14/2006 5:02:22 PM PST by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Hey Tonk.....I got your 6....keep up the good work...


402 posted on 01/14/2006 5:06:15 PM PST by RVN Airplane Driver (Most Americans are so spoiled with freedom they have no idea what it takes to earn and keep it.)
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To: Wild Irish Rogue

Yes...fascinating isn't it?


403 posted on 01/14/2006 5:15:58 PM PST by Wristpin ("The Yankees have decided to buy every player in Baseball....")
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To: kellynla

Going down this road could open an interesting can of worms. I returned from my second trip to Iraq last week. There are guys in my unit with Purple Hearts for which most of us are hard-pressed to recall what "wounds" they were given out for. Some are extremely questionable - one guy had temporary hearing loss from an IED that detonated near him; one guy got a tiny cut (I guess "laceration" sounds more impressive) when a VBIED detonated against our patrol base; one guy had a ricochet hit his elbow pad (not his elbow) - I suppose it caused a bruise - and there are lots of others. A few guys are getting Purple Hearts because they were in vehicles that were struck by IEDs and they were "shaken up" and sent to the Foward Aid Station as a precaution, to make sure nothing was wrong. There are some high-ranking officers with Purple Hearts that many of us find ourselves scratching our heads over.

When we start belittling the Purple Hearts for Murtha and questioning whether he deserves them, there are going to be hundreds, if not thousands, of current OIF and OEF veterans who will be quick to notice that Murtha is equally deserving as they are. I'm curious what the reaction will be.


404 posted on 01/14/2006 5:17:09 PM PST by Axhandle
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To: kerryusama04
"I'm just not cool that we smear every war-vet Moonbat that comes along."

Neither am I.....

However - I'd just like to get the record straight on poseurs who use a false history to justify treasonous behavior while serving as a U.S. Congressman.

In my view - his CURRENT behavior sets him up as a legitimate target....and that opens his Pandora's Box to view....

I also dispute your point that "Bum a Smoke?" rises to the level of "Semper Fi"

Semper Fi

405 posted on 01/14/2006 5:18:43 PM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: paltz
Now, I know I'm late to this thread and forgive me if someone has already brought this up, but :

"The records of this Headquarters show that you are entitled to the Purple Heart and a Gold Star in lieu of a second Purple Heart for wounds received in action...

Isn't the second award of a PH marked by an Oak Leaf Cluster?

406 posted on 01/14/2006 5:20:28 PM PST by Snickersnee (Where are we going? And what's with this handbasket?)
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To: paltz

Bumpforlater


407 posted on 01/14/2006 5:21:29 PM PST by gridlock (eliminate perverse incentives)
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To: Snickersnee
Isn't the second award of a PH marked by an Oak Leaf Cluster?

Rodger that....good point...as I posted earlier...liars have a way of exposing themselves...just like his buddy Kerry. Thanks for the post..

408 posted on 01/14/2006 5:25:33 PM PST by RVN Airplane Driver (Most Americans are so spoiled with freedom they have no idea what it takes to earn and keep it.)
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To: Snickersnee

It depends on the branch of service. Army Purple Hearts have an Oak Leaf Cluster as the second award. I think the Marines and Navy use a Gold Star. The Coast Guard uses stars as subsequent awards also.

No one liked the fact that I had oak leaves on my Army ribbons and stars on my Coastie ribbons on the same ribbon bar, even after the explanation of wearing the awards as they were presented.


409 posted on 01/14/2006 5:32:37 PM PST by Delta 21 (MKC USCG-ret)
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To: Axhandle

First, I want to thank you for your service.

Next, when and if any of the present PH recipients decide to run for public office and put their war records and PH's out there as campaign material then I and others will want to see their war records...so everyone be advised and be prepared!

We've had enough of Kerry "Band-Aid PH's" and "wannabe" heroes to last us all a lifetime.

Semper Fi,
Kelly


410 posted on 01/14/2006 5:35:24 PM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots. Semper Fi!)
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To: StarCMC

"LOL - works for me! You can just toss those hugs over this way! He he he!!"

Now yer talkin'!! *HUGS* :-)

Eat yer heart out, Tonk!! lol


411 posted on 01/14/2006 5:41:15 PM PST by Howie66 ("America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people.")
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To: RVN Airplane Driver

C7/CV 2 pilot or Mohawk?


412 posted on 01/14/2006 5:50:19 PM PST by afnamvet
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To: river rat
Big Bump to #320 !!
413 posted on 01/14/2006 5:51:07 PM PST by Delta 21 (MKC USCG-ret)
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To: afnamvet

Flew U-21's in Vietnam.....we had a dual mission...hauling folks and also a Radio Relay mission, which was boring as hell for the most part...but could upon crazy times become less than boring..


414 posted on 01/14/2006 5:58:47 PM PST by RVN Airplane Driver (Most Americans are so spoiled with freedom they have no idea what it takes to earn and keep it.)
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To: dirtboy

I think his military service should be left alone. I'm sure that he put his life on the line during his military service just like many others did.

As far as present day matters are concerned, that is a different story. I think that Murtha has made some very irresponsible and dangerous comments, and the fact that he did serve in the military should not make him immune to criticism and attack. Stick to what he's doing now instead of dredging up material from years ago that will only reflect badly on those who are trying to make an issue out of it.


415 posted on 01/14/2006 6:01:44 PM PST by fox0566
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; ALOHA RONNIE; mhking; Vets_Husband_and_Wife; MeekOneGOP; jmstein7; ...
I survived an attack today by someone on this forum trying to silence me by getting my account suspended.

And they did get it suspened, for a few hours, because of my opinions on this very thread.

This was the 1st time since I've been on FR that I've been silenced for voicing my opinion.

I know it wasn't Jim Robinson but this certain poster and their "hired help"

Jim : If you read this I have the exact FReep mails I was sent and my replies.

UNBELIEVABLE!

Here's a pic of Murtha (I'm 99.99% sure it's him) sitting in the VFW audience while President Bush spoke awhile back. It was a headline story over at DU.

Image hosted by Photobucket.com

I'm behind you, Tonk, 100%!

416 posted on 01/14/2006 6:05:48 PM PST by JLO (www.operationminnesotanice.com)
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To: fox0566

It is amazing to me....the folks who have never served in the military...much less being Vietnam Vets...always wan't to give Murtha a pass...I say...WHY...please explain why it is OK to be a liar about your combat record...???


417 posted on 01/14/2006 6:05:56 PM PST by RVN Airplane Driver (Most Americans are so spoiled with freedom they have no idea what it takes to earn and keep it.)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

I am not surprised, Tonk.
But I am very, very sorry.

I don't think I need to tell you, but I'm going to anyway.
I love ya, man.


418 posted on 01/14/2006 6:07:13 PM PST by freema (Proud Marine Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Did you ever know that you're my hero
And everything I would like to be
If I can fly higher than an eagle
You are the wind beneath my wings



Sorry for getting sentimental, but I mean every word of it.


419 posted on 01/14/2006 6:09:50 PM PST by freema (Proud Marine Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

I've been so worried for this generation, since before the election. When Swift Vets wouldn't continue the fight to permanently stop this insanity, I got a bit upset. I moved over here. And you've been my rock. Thank you for that.


420 posted on 01/14/2006 6:12:05 PM PST by freema (Proud Marine Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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