Posted on 01/13/2006 4:35:43 PM PST by FairOpinion
A recent poll shows the born-again "moderate" Republican governor has gained back some popularity, especially in the Bay Area, and is now in a dead heat with Democratic competitors.
"Our survey demonstrates that Schwarzenegger's retreat from the more conservative rhetoric and agenda he brandished during the latter part of 2005 has paid off among middle-of-the road voters," said Melinda Jackson, director of the Survey and Policy Research Institute at San Jose State University.
The governor's job performance rating among voters in a Democrat-leaning state has climbed from 36 percent positive and 53 percent negative in September, to 40 percent positive and 51 percent negative this month.
(Excerpt) Read more at insidebayarea.com ...
No, not yet. Let me find a spare hour to waste. ;-)
Schwartzenegger sucks BIGTIME!!!
Now give some more of that twisted BS you been tormentin everone on FR with, c'mon!!!
Just getting a little exercise. :-)
Are the questions really too tough for you, FO?
I don't want to disturb you while you insult other conservative freepers and claim that you post only "Truth" and all.
Just wondering if you are ever going to answer:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1557792/posts?page=986#986
I answered you the first time, you just didn't like the answer.
Remember: Bill SImon, McClintock?
All I can tell from your posts is that you're anti union, pro-GLBT, enviro-wacko tolerant, and don't seem too concerned about gun rights or property rights, big spending or big borrowing. That's why I gave you a list.
Here's the link, one more time.
Simon and McClintock never appointed dems and gays to their most trusted staff positions.
Can the Gub say the same?
Yet you think that is just fine and dandy, how telling.
"Simon and McClintock never appointed dems and gays to their most trusted staff positions."
And they don't get elected in CA either. You apparently missed the entire point.
It's really becomes tiresome having to repeat the obvious a dozen times and you still don't get it.
"ultra, uncompromizing conservatives" have less chance of being elected, than the chances of a proverbial snowball in that hot place. I posted the FACTS about the demographics, which make this obvious.
The only thing that is obvious is you are as guilty if not more of exactly what you say I am.
With folks like you undercutting and backstabbing folks like Simon and McClintock or using them as so much fluff when you feel like it for your moderately driven agenda ( and I am being gracious calling it that), your comments are nothing more than you displaying who you really are, no matter how much you post away trying to discount or refute that fact.
Oh and Tom is still getting re-elected term after term, will your Trojan Horse be able to say the same?
We'll see what the gop folks decide to do, maybe they'll actually make him run in a primary instead of being allowed to prance onto the stage as he did for the Recall.
btw, How much debt has he rung up so far?
And the facts about actual votes has been posted to you. The true facts do not support your claim.
Please list the names of Republicans in statewide elected positions in Rhode Island, with the exception of the PRO-LIFE, PRO-FAMILY, PRO-GUN, CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN Governor, Don Carcieri.
Please list the names of Republican presidential candidates that have carried Rhode Island, in spite of it having a PRO-LIFE, PRO-FAMILY, PRO-GUN, CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN Governor, Don Carcieri. At last count, Kerry carried the state 2-1, which makes it FAR more hostile to Republicans than California ever was.
Please list all the times Governor Calceri promised billions for "stem cell" research, endorsed gun confsication measures introduced by the state's senior Senator, hired an ultra-libreal chief of staff and high ranking Democrat Party official that "used to" work for the state's previous Democrat governor, and signed every piece of liberal legislation to cross his desk -- all so he could be "electable" in a ultra-Democrat state like Rhode Island.
Please stop posting this ridiculous "Arnold is the ONLY Republican official in the state, so that PROVES my point that you have to be RINO to win", because every time you post it, I will continue to point out the CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN Governors in state's with a far higher percentage of Dems than California.
The fact Arnold is the only elected Republican statewide official in California has nothing to do with him CHOOSING to governor as a liberal. Other Republicans have been elected in super-Dem states and have governed as conservatives (and vice versa, there are some commie Governors in normally Republican states).
Get over it.
So, if you disagree with my assertion that conservatism is carried via the Republican Party, are you suggesting that only YOU carry conservative values?
So. What's the name of your political party?
This is the classic MO of liberals to resort to insults and ad hominems, FairOpinion. And to think they hoped no one would notice... lol
Norm, I know y'all thought you were so clever; and it now must hurt to be you.
We can see who's mad, Alia.
When you try and sell a liberal agenda as Republican , much less conservative, your cover is kinda blown, don'tcha think..
Goodness, Norm. Your continual use of "we" suggests you have an operation. Do you? What's it called and which political party is carrying it?
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YOU are the ones who voted AGAINST conservative propositions supported by McClintock and other conservatives and conservative organizations.
YOUR vote strengthenend the Democrats and unions in CA and killed any chance of reform. So who is supporting the liberal agenda here? Look in the mirror.
NormsRevenge and Calcowgirl agitated AGAINST Prop. 76, the live within our means propositions and voted against it. All Democrats and Union memebers agitated and voted against it
Judge allows extra union dues to fight Calif ballot Props 75, 76, Nov. 4, 2005
THE CA PROPOSITIONS; Democratic and Republican activists discuss the propositions
Dean urges voters to reject measures governor supports [California]
Davis opposes Schwarzenegger's reform initiatives
CA: Feinstein to oppose Schwarzenegger's special election initiatives
John Alden (Marin cnty Dem Party chairman): Vote no on Prop 76 - we need better leaders
Top Democratic leaders at Penmar Park rally to 'swat' governor's special election measures. Key note speaker: Angelides, Dem candidate for governor
Liberal groups (Moveon.org) try to link special election to broader GOP agenda
Open letter from Phil Angelides (opposing Schwarzenegger and the Propositions)
McClintock's recommendations for CA Propositions
Summary of Recommendations on the CA Propositions by various organizations and parties
CA: McClintock stumps for governor's ballot initiatives
Ad watch: McClintock in radio spot supporting Prop. 76 (includes actual text)
Supporters of the CA Propositions 74-77 include CA Club for Growth, Howard Jarvis Taxpayer Association, Ray Haynes, San Fernando Valley Town Hall Conservatives, Republican Party, and many others. Click on the link for a more comprehensive list.
And you can see from links above who are the ones opposing them: Democrats, Unions, Gray Davis, Howard Dean, Phil Angelides, MoveOn.org, various Dem party chairmen, etc.
Thanks for the ping, Billy Boy. Your examples from other states are always eye-opening. I agree that the "best you're gonna get" argument doesn't hold water. I posted something yesterday about a poll that was presented to a Republican group saying that California is really no different than other states on issues.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1557792/posts?page=977#977
YOUR vote strengthenend the Democrats and unions in CA and killed any chance of reform. So who is supporting the liberal agenda here? Look in the mirror.
NormsRevenge and Calcowgirl agitated AGAINST Prop. 76, the live within our means propositions and voted against it. All Democrats and Union memebers agitated and voted against it
Wrong again, FO. Your attempt at an argument does not hold water.
1)I did not vote against "conservative propositions." I voted yes on some of Arnold's propositions, and no on others. Yes, I was strongly opposed to Prop 76 as it continued more borrowing, deferred expenditures, and authorized more bonds. It was presented in a truly deceptive manner ("pass prop 76 or I will have to raise taxes"). It did not reduce spending, as Tom Campbell finally admitted on the campaign trail several times. In short, there was very little about this measure that was conservative. My position against this kind of borrowing and fiscal irresponponsibility is consistent with conservative principles, not liberal. I opposed Props 57 and 58 for similar reasons. Borrowing of funds to supplement the General Fund is just wrong--it was wrong when Davis proposed it, and it is wrong when Arnold proposed it. Liberals opposed Prop 76 for entirely different reasons. It is the issue that is important, not just the person endorsing it.
2) Propositions are not black and white issues. Proposition 76 had both positive and negative aspects--unfortunately, you couldn't take the good and not also accept the bad. For example, Prop 111 was sold to us by a Republican governor under the deceptive title of the "Traffic Congestion Relief and Spending Act." Just like Prop 76, the devil was in the details of Prop 111 (unfortunately, I probably voted for it like a good sheepish Republican). The fine print Prop 111 obliterated the Gann Spending limit, contributing to many of the fiscal troubles we have today. It was not a "conservative" measure just because it was offered by a Republican and/or "conservative" Governor.
3) Propositions are not necessarily partisan issues. Democrats supporting a position on a proposition does not make that proposition conservative or liberal. It can be an indicator, but is not a conclusive determinant. If a liberal opposes child beating, should I be for it?
Do you support Arnold's After-School-Programs, Prop 49? He has been called on by the Legislative Analyst's office and other conservatives (as well as liberals) to not fund this program at this time--suspending it is within his current Gubernatorial authority. Prop 49 was sold to the electorate by Arnold and the Teachers Unions. Since the Unions are strongly in support of it, are you against it?
What about Proposition 57 and 58? That was sold to the electorate by Arnold and Steve Westly(D). To sell this measure, Arnold had press conferences with Westly(D), Dianne Feinstein(D), Barbara Boxer(D), John Burton(D), and other prominent(D) supporters. He also had the support of the Prison Unions. Many conservatives spoke out strongly against it--where were you?
The childish spamming of the same old links on multiple threads demonstrates nothing other than an apparent partisan acceptance (and promotion) of anything presented by the Governor without consideration of the issues themselves. This is not helping Republicans, or conservatives but is advancing the liberal agenda. Under this Governor, we have had more spending, unprecedented borrowing, more environmental legislation, more gun legislation, more taxpayer subsidized social programs, more GLBT legislation, more liberal judicial appointments, etc. That may be acceptable to some, or they may choose to not speak out, but it is not acceptable to me. I will speak out against liberalism, no matter the source from which it comes. It is the message and issues that are important, not who is delivering them.
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