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Jack Murtha's "Fake" Purple Hearts, An Open Letter
Strange ^ | Jan 12, 2006 | Kelly Anne & Don Bailey

Posted on 01/15/2006 4:00:20 PM PST by armydawg1

Jack Murtha's 'Fake' Purple Hearts - An Open Letter

May 5, 2002

Dear Jack,

I’m writing on matters of joint concern. A number of weeks ago I was talking with someone who is a mutual acquaintance and your name came up. It was an unusually frank discussion and I considered it private. I did relate some opinions about you and shared some recollections about experiences with you in Congress. I was, to be honest, critical about how you misled me about ABSCAM where you convinced me you had voluntarily told federal agents about the offer of money to you and I learned later, after I had successfully defeated the ethics charges against you, that you had merely manipulated the system to cooperate with federal agents to avoid prosecution.

I also shared my recollection of when you admitted, back in our corner, that you didn’t earn your purple hearts (you indicated you had small scratch on your cheek that wasn’t even directly related to an APC that ran over a small anti personnel mine that was behind you). The other purple heart you even declined to explain.

At the time you were feeling particularly vulnerable, because it wasn’t too long after you had called me crying and sobbing, thanking me for “saving your life” before the ethics committee. There was no doubt in my mind that you were expressing to me that you did not believe you did anything sufficient to earn the purple heart, and that you didn’t want to be active in my efforts to laud Vietnam Veterans that served with us.

Given what I know about the brave men who served in the Marine Corp., I did not criticize you, but to be honest, I was shocked and disappointed in you personally. We both knew what was at issue, and we both know what happened and that you wanted to avoid the limelight. Later, we ended up having to run for the same seat. It was a good clean race and I admit I knew I couldn’t win, simply on the basis of voter turn out alone. During that time some people came to me with documents indicating you had used influence, after the fact, or had embellished your purple heart awards. I did not respond, and I said nothing. In doing so I may have betrayed my comrades in arms because I knew then what you had told me in the corner of the house - but I had told no one about that and I stood mute. But a few weeks ago my conversation was private and I was not seeking to do you any harm, though it would be ridiculous for me to infer that I have any respect for what you’ve done.

Regardless, shortly thereafter a reporter called me and I was put in a very different position. I could either deny what I said in private conversation, and thus lie, or I could fess up to the truth, or, I could take the cowards way out and stand mute. If I say something, I should either have the courage to back it up, or I shouldn’t open my mouth. Regardless it was too late, and I did not choose to lie. So I admitted to what I had said. However, I later received two calls from two different aides of yours, and later I was called a liar in the press. I am not a liar and I want an apology for the remarks you authorized that I didn’t tell the truth about our conversation. I don’t know how you got yourself awarded the purple hearts, but I know you indicated you didn’t earn them.

By the way. I’m not an ingrate. I deeply appreciate the help you gave me for the last governor’s primary. In fact, out of respect for you, when I realized that the race was going no where, I didn’t even cash the check you sent, (which I kept). Being grateful for your help, I have not sought to hurt you - but I will not betray or exploit the young men who died while fighting, with me, for this country. Never coming forward is one thing - I never have. Lying is another. Coincidentally I just settled an 11-year old law suit with Barbara Hafer where she apologized in writing for campaign defamation and admitted that federal agents (Thornburgh’s political friends) lied to her. I will not accept your falsehoods now. Enough is enough.

You clearly indicated to me in a moment of weakness, that you hadn’t deserved the purple hearts and there was no confusion on that. You may deny that all you wish - but you and I know that that conversation took place. Please apologize now. You may fool a few reporters into believing that merely because you got some perfunctory paperwork made out by a friend, that that means you earned the purple hearts. But even if you were awarded the medals later, there should be affidavits from witnesses. These things should be easy to get - where are they? I bet they don’t exist Jack because you are the one who’s lying. Luckily there’s one easy way to settle all this. Call a press conference. Explain where you were and what you were doing when you got the purple hearts. Explain who was with you and treated your wounds, but most important Jack describe your wounds or the lack thereof, as you did for me, years ago. I am absolutely certain that you won’t do that - because, though you may have manipulated some paperwork that says you were awarded the medals (for political purposes) you can’t produce the witnesses or documents to show any wounds or circumstances under which they occurred.Unless the Marine Corps gives out medals for unsubstantiated non -combat related telltale scratches, procured for use in political campaign - then show me the money Jack - because there should at least be evidence by affidavit, or record of the scratches, that’s what getting a purple heart requires - show me.

You may be able to take advantage of a few Washington reporters who don’t have sufficient experience to understand - but you can’t fool combat veterans of the Vietnam war by hiding behind “Unit” losses - we’re used to those stories. I have my orders describing my combat awards Jack - to back up my DD-214. Where’s your’s? And Jack - don’t ever call me a liar.


Don Bailey

Submitted by Kelly Anne

TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 109th; fraud; marines; murhtaspastishere; murtha; murthamedals; murthawatch; purplehearts; usmc; veterans
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To: armydawg1

Wow, as a general rule I would say leave Murtha alone as we have enough angst about the Viet Nam War. But if he called this man a liar, and this guy is willing to show his documentation it's kind of like Cooper in High Noon. I guess we will just see how this plays out.

21 posted on 01/15/2006 4:22:38 PM PST by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: armydawg1

do I really have to say it???

22 posted on 01/15/2006 4:23:44 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist )
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To: PushinTin
Yes, but you see, that is just the point. Is this man truly a "hero", deserving to be lionized? I think not, especially if he has fraudulently claimed certain honors, awards and recognitions, this is all open for a critical look. He's the one that keeps POINTING OUT HIS SERVICE, like Kerry and then they squeal "unfair!".

When one enters the public realm in politics he must expect to be scrutinized closely; this is what can happen, that's why it is so important to be who you say you are, it's about INTEGRITY, honesty, loyalty and trustworthiness, anything less is suspect and rightfully so. I want people who are in the position to send my son into combat (which they have) to be of the highest moral character, anything less is a disgrace and I might call them to account--personally. These are not hollow words.
23 posted on 01/15/2006 4:26:28 PM PST by brushcop (We lift up our military serving in harm's way and pray for total victory and a safe return.)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; Peach
Peach; This isn't about politics at this stage. It's about honor and integrity. It is about the man.

If Murtha's political career and aspirations are undone by these revelations, so be it.
24 posted on 01/15/2006 4:27:26 PM PST by BIGLOOK (I once opposed keelhauling but recently have come to my senses.)
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To: Chode

IMO it is simply granting this fool another 15 minutes in the spotlight. He has been thoroughly discredited and nobody cares about him anymore. Let's not make him a martyr because you know how good the dims are at playing that part.

25 posted on 01/15/2006 4:31:32 PM PST by JerseyDvl ("Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel"-Samuel Johnson to the Dems of today.)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
Overwhelming support from FR Vietnam Vets or not, unless this is initiated by veterans who served with Murtha and can speak to his validity or deceit, this shouldn't be pursued.

The investigation into Kerry's lies was one thing. The Swift Boat Vets had the right to speak up. Thus far, that is not the case here, and this should be left alone unless his comrades speak up.

I have a really bad taste about this. I don't know whether it is a setup or not, but if it is it can do nothing but embarrass and defame FR.

Do we really need to go this route? Whatever happened to 'don't get in the way of an enemy when he's screwing himself'?

26 posted on 01/15/2006 4:31:48 PM PST by bcsco ("The Constitution is not a suicide pact"...A. Lincoln)
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To: bcsco

The Los Angeles Times revealed on June 14, 2005 that Murtha, as the top Democrat on House Defense Appropriations, has been funneling tens of millions of taxpayer dollars into KSA Consulting, the lobbying company of his brother, Kit Murtha, and KSA clients.

Last year, Murtha strongarmed the Navy into transferring the Hunters Point Shipyard to the city of San Francisco, which had a contract with a company called Lennar, Inc. to “redevelop” the 500-acre site bringing millions in profits to Lennar. The Senior Vice-President of Lennar is Laurence Pelosi, Democrat House Leader Nancy Pelosi’s stepson.

This year, Murtha inserted several “earmarks” (specifically designated appropriations) into various defence bills giving millions of federal research dollars to companies owned by the children of Democrat Congressman Paul Kanjorski of Pennsylvania’s 11th district adjoining Murtha’s 12th.

Crooked enough for you? Welcome to Washington. This is the way “business” is conducted here. There are – trust me on this – a significant number of Congressmen and Senators of both parties who have integrity and don’t sell their votes for personal gain to themselves, family, or friends. But they are – trust me on this as well – not in the majority.

27 posted on 01/15/2006 4:34:56 PM PST by Huevos Rancheros (Free the Barret Report--William B. Travis)
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To: JennysCool

I should have mentioned, Jenny, I think it's entirely legitimate to go after Murtha for his association with Code Pink.

28 posted on 01/15/2006 4:38:30 PM PST by Peach
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Wonder why Kerry isn't Defending Murtha... They're both decorated Vietnam Vets for Peace... < / sarc >

29 posted on 01/15/2006 4:41:23 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Huevos Rancheros
I have no problem going after Murtha for what you posted. My problem is going after him for alleged fraud in his acquiring his purple hearts.

My point was that if done properly it would be his service comrades who would take that issue public; not anyone else. Anything short of that simply invites a deluge of criticism in investigation.

30 posted on 01/15/2006 4:41:48 PM PST by bcsco ("The Constitution is not a suicide pact"...A. Lincoln)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

31 posted on 01/15/2006 4:42:16 PM PST by Peach
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To: armydawg1

Going after Murtha about his medals is one of the dumbest things we can do.
A lot of vets who recieved purple hearts will tell you that what they did wasn't better than what others did who didn't recieve purple hearts.

32 posted on 01/15/2006 4:44:42 PM PST by JRochelle
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To: armydawg1

This stuff is incredible.

I can scarcely believe that any rational person could live with this much fraud in their life.

I am angry with Murtha for his words and such during the last several weeks, but this shit is unbelievable.

Say it ain't so!

33 posted on 01/15/2006 4:48:40 PM PST by Radix (Welcome home 3 ID!)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
I know he's offered a Purple Heart to Dan Rather.   Maybe Kerry did the same with Murtha...

34 posted on 01/15/2006 4:53:40 PM PST by Lady Jag ( All I want is a kind word, a warm bed, and unlimited power)
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To: Peach

Like I said, what evidence?

murtha should release ALL his military records,
then he and he alone can put it to rest.

Somehow the FR Viet Nam Vets know a rat like murtha,
not some "newspaper"

Murtha's War Hero Status Called Into Question

AGAIN : This cannot hurt President Bush,
he's not running again.

Check with Karl Rove
he knows the real score on Viet Nam Vets

Rove Credits Swiftvets With 'Energizing' Bush Vote (Thank You Karl Rove!)

35 posted on 01/15/2006 4:57:20 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Be wary of the "Move On FReepers" who scream and howl "Move On Tonk, Get Over It")
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub


36 posted on 01/15/2006 4:57:44 PM PST by Gucho
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To: brushcop
Is this man truly a "hero", deserving to be lionized? I think not, especially if he has fraudulently claimed certain honors,

You are right, sir; and you said it very well. This is not just politics. Anyone who fraudulently claims a military award defames and demeans the courage and sacrifice of those who have received those honors legitimately. They deserve to be exposed and reviled, especilly if they are politicians.

37 posted on 01/15/2006 4:58:11 PM PST by centurion316 (Democrats - Al Qaida's Best Friends)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

It's one thing for vets to go after Murtha; have at him. I don't want to see this connected to conservatives or Republicans.

38 posted on 01/15/2006 4:58:55 PM PST by Peach
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To: armydawg1

Calling BG Burkett. Calling BG Burkett.....

39 posted on 01/15/2006 5:02:25 PM PST by isthisnickcool (Quoting Hillary Clinton: "You know, you know, you know, you know.....")
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To: Huevos Rancheros


40 posted on 01/15/2006 5:02:26 PM PST by Calpernia (
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