Posted on 01/17/2006 1:31:49 PM PST by WKB
Rev. R. Albert Mohler, Jr., the president of Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, says it's "an absolute revolt against God's design" if husbands and wives purposely avoid bearing children.
On his Web site and other articles and interviews, Mohler argues that "marriage, sex and children are part of one package" and that "to deny any part of this wholeness is to reject God's intention in creation and his mandate revealed in the Bible."
In a CNN interview, the Baptist leader added, “We grow up by having children. Without that responsibility, we have a generation of perpetual adolescents just growing old."
I totally agree regarding denominations; the doctrines of men tend to simply get in the way. The strange thing is, I find I'm most moved in small congregations that are usually within a denomination, whether it be a Pentecostal or even a Roman Catholic church. I guess maybe there is more of a connect between the Pastor and his smaller flock, and less interference from the business people. That's the problem I tend to have with TV ministries; I just can't see a connection between the shepherd and his TV flock. To me it comes across as simply business.
You both have let pride get a hold of you on this thread. Your not even making valid pints now.
Indeed mans doctrines and church theologies written of man do complicate matters considerably. Many only serve as the Lord stated to place burdens upon the backs that our forefathers could not carry and as a result failed.
Christ has asked so little of us in exchange for salvation and man demands so much to try & make it almost as impossible to abide in the word as it was for pre-Christ Israel judged under the law of Moses. Thousands perish daily by parents purposely ending conceived life before it's birth and this man is worrying about married couples not having kids by choice?
Yep. The $200, 000 probably is for a lot more than just clothes, a roof, food-I'm sure it includes lots of goodies. And people feel guilty if they can't give their kids what they had, or what other kids have.
This whole thread was about pride.
Well said, najida.
It is kind of odd - think about how much couples have to go through to adopt, or try to get pregnant when they are unable to - but then any two scumbags can have a kid with no desire for it...
I agree completely. Any jerk who thinks I'm wrong for my choices should come stand at my door and attempt to handle what I dish out to them.
It may well be that the people who shouldn't have kids are self selecting since they don't really bring any economic benefit.
I don't know about this one...there are a lot of people out there who are making a lot of babies that seem incapable of parenting and providing for said children until adulthood...
I wish it were as hard to get a license to have a kid as it is to get permission to fly a high performance fighter jet, fully armed, over a city.
I think that would be a great idea. It'll never happen, but a license to breed has some logical merit.
And I read enouygh of the man's words on the first page. If there's a longer article-I'll pass, thankyouverymuch.
"Middle class life style" means that we raise our kids as though they were young lords and ladies. I didn't even have a radio in my bedroom when I was a kid, and I grew up in a Middle-class house. That was, however, before they invented the transistor radio and a radio cost relatively the same as a small TV set today. Fifty years ago people used to buy houses with the equivalent of today's welfare checks.
Nope. Which of course doesn't mean this guy is the interpreter either.
it's a different thing if you can't have children, can't afford them because it's early on in the marriage or if one or both parties realize they are big huge screwups and shouldn't ever have children.
I suppose it says that in the bible as well? I haven't run across that part, please direct me to the proper place.
I agree.
Besides the command to Adam in Genesis 1:28 Also...God reiterated this command to Noah after the flood. Obviously it is important to God ie, His will. The most important thing to a Christian should be to do the will of God and glorify Him.
Genesis 9:1 And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth.
Genesis 9:7 And you, be ye fruitful, and multiply; bring forth abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein.
You should have heard him take after the Republicans and Democrats.
He has the right to worry, on just pragmatic grounds, about our "choices." The birthrate among "Euro-Americans" is not much higher than that of the Europeans. Our population is growing largely becuse of immigration and a higher bieth rate among immigrant families. Children are perceived as a"threat" to our standard of living.
"Married couples that decide to not have children are performing the ultimate selfish act: not having children because they don't fit in your plans and ambitions or will take up too much resources."
Don't expound until/unless you have all the facts. Some of know we'd have been bad parents, in which case HAVING children would have been the ultimate selfish act. Sometimes people from abusive homes choose to break the cycle by not procreating.
Lotta truth there. Can't call it a sin, though. Just people in a decadent, luxurious society doing what they eventually get around to doing - fading away.
To be total off topic, did you guys accept Him while in the military, or afterward? I had to go through some difficult times of my own making before I was ready for Him. I accepted about 7 years after I got out.
It takes some creative bookkeeping to come up with that high a figure. Probably what is ebing looked at is how much people CHOOSE to expend on two children and then extrapolate on the cost of six. The "cheaper-by-the -dozen" families I have know say the expense tends to flatten out after four kids.
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