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Chertoff calls reports of Mexican military incursions overblown
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Posted on 01/18/2006 5:40:07 PM PST by NormsRevenge

SAN DIEGO (AP) - Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said Wednesday that reports of Mexican soldiers frequently crossing onto U.S. soil were overblown, calling many of those incursions innocent mistakes.

"I think to create the image that somehow there is a deliberate effort by the Mexican military to cross the border would be to traffic in scare tactics," Chertoff told reporters in Washington. "We have a good relationship with the Mexicans and I think treating this as an alarmist issue that suggests we're in danger of some significant overreaching is not accurate and not helpful."

Chertoff's remarks followed a newspaper report that the Mexican military had crossed into the United States 216 times since 1996. The Inland Valley Daily Bulletin of Ontario published details Sunday of a Homeland Security Department report.

"I think we average about 20 a year, and a significant number of those are innocent things where ... police or military from Mexico may step across the border because they're not aware of exactly where the line is," Chertoff said.

Chertoff added that some members of the Mexican army or police have abandoned their jobs and crossed into the United States to do "something illegal." Also, some criminals who have stepped across the border are dressed as soldiers but do not belong to the military, he said.

Rafael Laveaga, a spokesman for the Mexican Embassy in Washington, declined to comment on Chertoff's remarks. He stood by earlier remarks that the Mexican military has never deliberately stepped onto U.S. soil. He declined to say if there were any unintentional crossings.

The head of a labor union that represents about 10,500 U.S. Border Patrol agents dismissed Chertoff's remarks as "diplomatic response" to a long-running problem on U.S.-Mexico border.

"It really doesn't surprise me that he's playing the diplomat," said T.J. Bonner, president of the National Border Patrol Council. "This is a guy whose time on the border can be measured in hours, not years."

Bonner said Mexican soldiers - possibly some Army deserters - are providing protection for drug runners.

"It's all about the drugs," he said. "The lure of the riches of the cartel, they're too many for many of their solders to resist, whether they're corrupted on active duty or take up with other bands."

Homeland Security recorded an annual average of 21.6 Mexican military incursions since the 1996 fiscal year, according to the Inland Valley Daily Bulletin. Incidents peaked at 40 in 2002 and dropped to nine in the 2005 fiscal year that ended in September.

The Border Patrol's El Centro sector, which covers southeastern California, recorded the most incursions since 1996 (58), followed by Tucson, Ariz., (39), El Paso, Texas (33) and McAllen, Texas, (28), according to the newspaper. Del Rio, Texas, recorded only three incidents, the fewest of the agency's nine sectors along the southwest border.

Peter Nunez, the U.S. attorney in San Diego from 1982 to 1988, said it was difficult to know if the reports are overblown without additional information.

"Who's reporting these things?" he said. "What are the details? Who's telling us that this happening? What are the circumstances?"


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; bordersecurity; chertoff; dhs; gwot; immigrantlist; incursions; invasionusa; mexican; mexicantroops; military; openborders; overblown; reports
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To: NormsRevenge
Chertoff calls reports of Mexican military incursions overblown

Is this the same Chertoff who made the statement a few short months ago about returning every immigrant who wasn't here legally??

So, here's the question for Mr. "Send'em-Back-Alive" - How much of Texas, Arizona, Florida and california have to become "occupied territory" before the "reports of Mexican military incursions" are considered "underreported"!!??
21 posted on 01/18/2006 6:30:32 PM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: dirtboy; Stellar Dendrite; HiJinx; gubamyster
I'd settle for a pair of 15 footers like these.

The Duncan Hunter 15' Fence


22 posted on 01/18/2006 6:31:15 PM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: sure_fine

I agree. He learned from fat Tommy Ridge. From the top, down, these people are dumber than dirt.


23 posted on 01/18/2006 6:56:31 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: popdonnelly

Overblown? Fullblown mexican invasion since 1990.


24 posted on 01/18/2006 7:03:18 PM PST by Icelander (Legal Resident Since 2004)
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To: SealSeven
I'm amazed that it's the year 2006 and our borders are still as porous as they were on 9-11-01.The security of this country is still being sold to the illegal immigration lobby.What good are wire taps when the terrorist can still walk across our borders whenever he feels like it?
25 posted on 01/18/2006 8:33:39 PM PST by rdcorso (There Is No Such Thing As A Neutral Person During A War With Radical Islam.)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; A CA Guy; ...

ping


26 posted on 01/18/2006 9:13:28 PM PST by gubamyster
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To: Marine Inspector

I was expecting your confirmation.


28 posted on 01/18/2006 9:38:12 PM PST by GarySpFc (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: NormsRevenge

The man has absolutely no place in the DOHS.


29 posted on 01/18/2006 10:10:35 PM PST by hedgetrimmer ("I'm millions richer, thanks to the revolutionary "free trade" system--Jaing Zemin)
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To: EagleUSA

The reverse of that is that some of them think there is already a major fence between the US and Mexico. I have been present when some of the D.C. politicians have finished a fly over of long stretchs of the border and they cannot believe what they see.


30 posted on 01/18/2006 10:46:17 PM PST by Tammy8 (Build a Real Border Fence, and enforce Immigration Laws!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Some people have to have it all crammed down their throats before they will believe anything.

Then when faced with indisputable evidence, they resort to all the rules of evidence and law before they will take action.

I believe the intruders know this and will take advantage until there are so many of them, even the cockroaches will head north.


33 posted on 01/19/2006 6:21:57 AM PST by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: Prince Charles

I think we average about 20 a year, and a significant number of those are innocent things where ... police or military from Mexico may step across the border because they're not aware of exactly where the line is," Chertoff said.
Build a wall or secure fence. Then there will be no more lame excuses if the foreigners cross it again.""

There is a "LINE". It is called the Rio Grande River, for the most part of the border.
Zapata and Pancho Villa knew exactly where it was, and they crossed it just as deliberately.


34 posted on 01/19/2006 6:24:50 AM PST by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: NormsRevenge

Michael Chertoff isn't prinicpled enough to hold the position of town lawn height inspector. The day he disappears from government employment will be a day worth proclaiming a holiday.


35 posted on 01/19/2006 6:36:15 AM PST by JoeSixPack1
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To: NormsRevenge
Saw Sec. Chertoff on Fox & Friends this morning.

He used the term "19th Century" when talking about the border fence. Thats the same term Texas Senator Cornyn used awhile back!

Whenever they go to the White House, they are partly protected by a "19th Century" fence.
36 posted on 01/19/2006 8:24:00 AM PST by SwinneySwitch (Here's my strategy on the Cold War: We win, they lose. ~ Ronald Reagan)
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37 posted on 01/19/2006 8:28:08 AM PST by SwinneySwitch (Here's my strategy on the Cold War: We win, they lose. ~ Ronald Reagan)
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To: gubamyster

Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Support our Minutemen Patriots!

Be Ever Vigilant ~ Bump!


38 posted on 01/19/2006 8:50:48 AM PST by blackie
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To: Tammy8

...and they cannot believe what they see.
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They are arrogant, stupid, and careless. Did I leave anything out??


39 posted on 01/19/2006 10:22:44 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: GarySpFc
I was expecting your confirmation.

That confirms it.

40 posted on 01/19/2006 11:22:12 AM PST by archy (The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
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