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Remembering Two Great Americans
EverVigilant.net ^ | 01/19/2006 | Lee R. Shelton IV

Posted on 01/19/2006 11:20:56 AM PST by sheltonmac

You probably won't find anything special printed on your calendar for the 19th and 21st of January. In case you are wondering, those are the respective birthdays of Generals Robert E. Lee and Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson.

As a nation we have already honored Martin Luther King, Jr., and will commemorate the birthdays of George Washington and Abraham Lincoln next month, but Lee and Jackson are especially dear to my heart. They were great men who embodied the inspiring courage, uncompromising honesty, principled conviction and moral fortitude we no longer see in our leaders today.

Both Lee and Jackson were men of action who fought valiantly to defend their homes and families. Jackson made it clear that if it were up to him, the South would "raise the black flag" and show no quarter to the enemy invading their homeland. They realized that while war was sometimes necessary, it should never be entered into lightly. As Lee put it, "It is good that war is so terrible, else we should grow too fond of it."

Lee and Jackson were Southern gents through and through. Consider Lee's Definition of a Gentleman:

Jackson's wife, Mary Anna, wrote of her husband that he "was a great advocate for marriage, appreciating the gentler sex so highly that whenever he met one of the 'unappropriated blessings' under the type of truest womanhood, he would wish that one of his bachelor friends could be fortunate to win her."

Both Lee and Jackson believed in principle over pragmatism. Lee once said, "I think it better to do right, even if we suffer in so doing, than to incur the reproach of our consciences and posterity." Jackson summed it up this way: "Duty is ours; consequences are God's."

Jackson never lived to see the fall of his beloved South, but Lee was gracious even in defeat. When approached by those who wished to remain bitter after surrendering he said, "Abandon your animosities and make your sons Americans." It was his position that "we must forgive our enemies. I can truly say that not a day has passed since the war began that I have not prayed for them."

Above all, Lee and Jackson were men of God. Lee loved to pray. He would be sure to let people know that he was praying for them, and he felt encouraged when he was remembered in their prayers. Once, upon hearing that others had been praying for him, he remarked, "I sincerely thank you for that, and I can only say that I am a poor sinner, trusting in Christ alone, and that I need all the prayers you can offer for me."

Jackson was the epitome of a life devoted to prayer. No matter was too insignificant that it did not warrant communion with the Father: "I have so fixed the habit in my mind that I never raise a glass of water to my lips without asking God's blessing, never seal a letter without putting a word of prayer under the seal, never take a letter from the post without a brief sending of my thoughts heavenward. I never change my classes in the lecture room without a minute's petition for the cadets who go out and for those who come in."

Jackson had an intimate knowledge of the sovereignty of God and rested in the promises of his Heavenly Father. Following the loss of his first wife, Ellie, who died almost immediately after giving birth to a stillborn son, he wrote to his sister-in-law, "I have been called to pass through the deep waters of affliction, but all has been satisfied. The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away, blessed be the name of the Lord. … I can willingly submit to anything if God strengthens me." It was this unshakeable faith that taught him "to feel as safe in battle as in bed."

The more I see what passes for leadership today in our government, in our churches and in our homes, the more I am convinced that we need men like Robert E. Lee and Thomas J. Jackson. I guess it's time for me to watch Gods and Generals again.


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To: robowombat
i think most here know how most southrons (as opposed to southerners) feel about "lincoln, the clay-footed, secular saint of DAMNyankeeland".

personally, i've openly said that the "lincoln memorial" should be removed from VA & given to anyplace that will take it. (i've suggested it would make an excellent artificial reef in the Chesapeake Bay. the rock-fish would like his statue, i think.)

free dixie,sw

101 posted on 01/19/2006 2:41:02 PM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to GOD. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
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To: linda_22003
oh, really????

free dixie,sw

102 posted on 01/19/2006 2:41:46 PM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to GOD. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
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To: Clemenza
I remember several years ago the Grant Monument in New York was severely neglected. Has that changed?
103 posted on 01/19/2006 2:42:21 PM PST by exdem2000
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To: stand watie

The Lincoln Memorial is not in Virginia and never has been. Feel better, now? :)


104 posted on 01/19/2006 2:42:57 PM PST by linda_22003
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To: robowombat

Got carried away. But many Southrons do feel that way about him. And he wasn't eclipsed by a worse President until Clinton.


105 posted on 01/19/2006 2:43:40 PM PST by Flavius Josephus (Ahmedi-nijad: Make Your Time.)
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To: stand watie
Actually the Lincoln Memorial is in DC. The part of DC that once belonged to Maryland. Are you maybe referring to the Lincoln statue that was put up on the old Tredegar tract in Richmond?
106 posted on 01/19/2006 2:44:24 PM PST by robowombat
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To: eleni121

I know, I booboo'd.


107 posted on 01/19/2006 2:44:47 PM PST by Flavius Josephus (Ahmedi-nijad: Make Your Time.)
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To: eleni121

I used to love Grant & Lincoln, but maybe I've been in the south too long. I still think Lincoln started the Big Government, and his fondness for Marx at the time was a big red flag.


108 posted on 01/19/2006 2:46:01 PM PST by Flavius Josephus (Ahmedi-nijad: Make Your Time.)
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To: Flavius Josephus

I have no real problem with Grant. He greatly respected Lee, and just did what he thought was right. Now Lincoln, that is another story...


109 posted on 01/19/2006 2:47:17 PM PST by SC33
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To: sheltonmac

When I read the headline I was expect truly great Americans like Ronald Reagan or Abraham Lincoln, not traitors whom history has been far too kind too like Lee and Jackson. What I understand even less is the hardy bunch that clings so tightly to a failed rebellion that was put down at the cost of the blood of patriots. The patriots would have been the boys wearing blue, for those who may otherwise be confused.


110 posted on 01/19/2006 2:48:24 PM PST by Melas (What!? Read or learn something? Why would anyone do that, when they can just go on being stupid)
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To: linda_22003; robowombat
GOOD. i was told by a NPS ranger that it was actually in the portion of VA that was "ceded to the federal government".

fwiw, i'm glad she was wrong. DC is welcome to him, as the DC government is about as corrupt as the lincoln/clinton administrations.

free dixie,sw

111 posted on 01/19/2006 2:48:53 PM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to GOD. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
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To: One Proud Dad

And why don't you recognize MLK? Let me guess he's just an uppity ----- in your book. Pathetic what's passing for conservatism these days.


112 posted on 01/19/2006 2:49:38 PM PST by Melas (What!? Read or learn something? Why would anyone do that, when they can just go on being stupid)
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To: Flavius Josephus
I'm fascinated with this Lincoln being fond of Marx, or more correctly old electric whiskers writings. What evidence is there of this? The question is posed in serious inquiry not as a polemical put-down.
113 posted on 01/19/2006 2:50:05 PM PST by robowombat
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To: stand watie

Nope, it's always been over the river, in the District. If you were willing to come this far north you'd see that for yourself.


114 posted on 01/19/2006 2:51:05 PM PST by linda_22003
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To: Clemenza

Amen. What's the pity is that it took 24 posts for the truth to be put out on this forum. Good job.


115 posted on 01/19/2006 2:51:12 PM PST by Melas (What!? Read or learn something? Why would anyone do that, when they can just go on being stupid)
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To: Melas

?When I read the headline I was expect truly great Americans like Ronald Reagan or Abraham Lincoln, not traitors whom history has been far too kind too like Lee and Jackson. What I understand even less is the hardy bunch that clings so tightly to a failed rebellion that was put down at the cost of the blood of patriots. The patriots would have been the boys wearing blue, for those who may otherwise be confused."


You are right. I also feel that history has been far too kind to those "patriots" who rebelled against Great Britain. What I understand even less is the bunch that clings to the rebellion, the one that caused the bloodhed of many patriots. Those patriots, btw., were the British.


116 posted on 01/19/2006 2:51:55 PM PST by SC33
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To: linda_22003

Are you a native Virginian? Just curious.


117 posted on 01/19/2006 2:52:35 PM PST by SC33
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To: TexConfederate1861
No, it wasn't. He was on a 9 mile exterior line. Meade had a 5 mile interior line. By the time Pickett jumped off, Ewell had already had his butt kicked [again], Stuart was in the process of learning [not for the first time since Brandy Station] that the Union Cavalry in general, and George Armstrong Custer in particular could, and would whip his a*s on a battlefield, and A.P Hill was on a walkabout, since his Corps [except for Pettigrew and Trimble] had done nothing since 1 July.

More to the point, no one ever asks the question, what if Pickett broke through? He had the whole Army of the Potomac in front [and on two sides] of him, and NO reinforcements. Seems Marse Robert forgot to plan for a followup - probably because he had nobody else to send in.

Gettysburg is hubris writ large. Not necessarily irrational hubris, but hubris none the less. Lee thought his troops could do anything he willed. They couldn't. After Day 2, he should have packed it in and gone home, or gone on defense.
118 posted on 01/19/2006 2:52:59 PM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: SC33

I've only been here half my life, which pretty much puts me in the "illegal alien" category in Virginia. ;-D


119 posted on 01/19/2006 2:53:38 PM PST by linda_22003
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To: linda_22003

lol, are you from the Northeast? I'm not criticizing you, I guess it would just help me understand your position.


120 posted on 01/19/2006 2:54:31 PM PST by SC33
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