Remembering Two Great Americans

EverVigilant.net ^ | 01/19/2006 | Lee R. Shelton IV

[TexConfederate1861]

Well, don't kid yourself. My ancestors were poorer than dirt. They were also LOYAL Southrons who supported their state, and the Confederacy.

[Flavius Josephus]

I spit on the butcher grant.

[Flavius Josephus]

When Iworked for the state in the 80s we got CHD off. Then along came MLK day. For a while they combined the two... (chuckle)

[TexConfederate1861]

Now your lack of Texas History has undone you.I can't speak about Tennessee, but the Texas Hill Country provided very few troops for the Union, nor did Texas for that matter. One group of Germans who TRIED to join up, got killed for their pains at Comfort, Texas.

[Flavius Josephus]

I've come to believe that Lincoln's rule was the start of a long path that led us to where we are today in terms of big government. Things are more like they are today than they've ever been before.

[exdem2000]

He fought the fight to finish,
And his soldier's work is done;
Lee ever stands immortal!
Freedom's model of a son.

As in the day of battle,
Or on his great retreat,
The center of attraction;
We come, our Lee to meet.

We've tried to mould his features,
To clothe him with a form;
To hold him up for men to see
How much he can adorn.

He came not home triumphant,
But a hero he did come;
With honor pure, unsullied,
And a love excelled by none.

No pathway strewn with flowers
Welcomed Lee back from the war,
But an anguish for his country
And the ruined homes he saw.

He, who could stand undaunted
'Midst the crash and clang of arms,
Grew grander when, disabled,
Leading comrades to their farms.

For he tread the path of duty,
And he won respect and fame,--
The proudest wreath of laurels
That a mortal man can claim.

'Tis not the smoke of battle,
The carnage, or the flame;
But we hold our Lee close to us,--
We love to call his name.

And we tell all we know of him;
And the nation yet unborn
Shall learn to know and love him
Like the fathers that have gone.

[Badray]

Gods and Generals bump

[linda_22003]

Just curiosity: why the misspelling of "Southern"?

[robowombat]

Yes, my father's people counted themselves lucky to have both a cow and a horse. When the war came my great/great gf enlisted in the cavalry and of course had to bring his own equine. That was a real hardship for his family. My mother's people had money, land, and probably slaves. They were unionists, well at least until a couple federal requisitioning parties visited them. They still bought exemption for their sons who sat out the war and then joined the Republican party during reconstruction (Only it was called the Readjuster Party and was run by an ex_rebel Major General, Mahone, the guy who crushed the crater attack.) Go figure, life is full of paradoxes.

[TexConfederate1861]

It is Southern idiom, so to speak. (Sounds more genteel) too!

[SC33]

"Well known facts. Poor southern whites understood that the war was being waged by the rich planters (with many exemptions) and the poor were fighting it. It's a complex issue but glorifying the Confederacy and its supporters both in the North and Sought makes no sense."

I could make the same argument about the Union, It is well-known that a great many northerners may not have supported the South's cause, but most were indifferent. I'm sure many Union soldiers would happily have allowed the South to secede. Just as you say about the South, elitist Northerners insisted on fighting the war, and poor northerners fought it.

[linda_22003]

Well, that's a matter of opinion, but it did seem deliberate, so I thought I'd ask. Thanks.

[eleni121]

That is the great Sherman not Grant. This is the great Grant.

[kenavi]

God Bless "Marse Robert" and "Stonewall" Jackson.

They fired on U.S. first.

[Moose4]

Virginia did the same thing for a while...the third Monday in January was "Lee-Jackson-King Day." I'm not sure if it still is, or if the pressure groups finally succeeded in getting the Lee-Jackson dropped from the holiday. Lee-Jackson Day (a state holiday) had traditionally been the third Monday in January for many years before, so the two holidays were logically combined.

}:-)4

[Clemenza]

The Germans in the Hill Country were largely pro-Union.

[TexConfederate1861]

Well, poor people fought on BOTH sides for what they thought was right. One of mine was a rancher from Central Texas. No slaves or cotton there! :)

[eleni121]

Yup...see my post #49

[PzLdr]

Grant conducted the most brilliant campaign ever waged on U.S soil, the Vicksburg campaign. The manuevering alone was worth the price of admission. But for a couple of inferior subordinates, a couple of his moces in the Wilderness-Petersburg campaigns would have ended the war a lot sooner. Cold Harbor was a bad mistake. Even Grant admitted it.But he could afford attrition, and Lee couldn't [having suffered a higher percentage of losses per army in all but two of his battles]. Kind of like sending 15,000 men accross a mile and a half of open field under enemy artillery to attack uphill.

[derllak]

Lol! Good point!