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Can a Pious Muslim Become a Loyal American?
Chronicles Magazine ^
| 01/20/2006
| Srdja Trifkovic
Posted on 01/21/2006 10:17:13 AM PST by Jeremydmccann
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To: Jeremydmccann
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posted on
01/21/2006 10:19:24 AM PST
by
Dark Skies
("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
To: Jeremydmccann
"Can a Pious Muslim Become a Loyal American?"
If they devoutly follow the Koran and the Hadiths?
Well, it's probably above my paygrade to make that call.
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posted on
01/21/2006 10:20:58 AM PST
by
VOA
To: Jeremydmccann
They keep saying it- plainly, honestly- and the STUPID among us refuse to hear it.
The speaker and everyone inside the mosque should be tracked down and arrested and deported to the most backward Islamic paradise we can find.
The mosque- and ALL mosques- should be bulldozed.
And we MUST start enforcing the laws against treason and sedition.
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posted on
01/21/2006 10:22:03 AM PST
by
ClearBlueSky
(Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
To: ClearBlueSky
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posted on
01/21/2006 10:23:31 AM PST
by
ml/nj
To: Jeremydmccann
"Can a Pious Muslim Become a Loyal American?" Short and concise answer: No.
"Pious" Muslims will never be loyal to _any_ authority, government, or culture, other than that of Islam itself. The Quran commands nothing less.
I will go so far as to say that the same statement applies to the overwhelming majority of Mulisms everywhere, whether "pious" or somewhat less so.
- John
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posted on
01/21/2006 10:26:36 AM PST
by
Fishrrman
To: Jeremydmccann
Can a Pious Muslim Become a Loyal American?Of course not.
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posted on
01/21/2006 10:27:43 AM PST
by
mosquewatch.com
("The enemy is anyone who will get you killed, no matter what side they are on.")
To: Fishrrman
Rule of Thumb:
'Muslims First Americans Second'
This has always been my experience, without exception.
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posted on
01/21/2006 10:30:28 AM PST
by
ishabibble
(UNITED WE STAND DIVIDED WE FALL)
To: ClearBlueSky
None are so blind as those who will not see. Can a devout muslim be a loyal American citizen? No.
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posted on
01/21/2006 10:30:45 AM PST
by
asp1
To: ClearBlueSky
"The mosque- and ALL mosques- should be bulldozed.
And we MUST start enforcing the laws against treason and sedition."
Politically, this will be difficult at the moment. A more attainable first step would be the complete political and legal defeat of CAIR---the largest American Islamacist group. They are currently suing those who speak out against them for libel---while enjoying strong MSM support.
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posted on
01/21/2006 10:31:23 AM PST
by
strategofr
(Taliban had such quick success because of US State Dept support, Dangerous Diplomacy, Mowbray, p. 63)
To: Fishrrman
I agree. I am also sickened when the pres. and the others refer to Islam as a religion of "peace" and "love". Sure, he shouldn't say the oppposite, but he shouldn't say anything period.
To: ClearBlueSky
A devout Muslim can do it only if in taking the oath he is practicing taqiyya, the art of dissimulation that was inaugurated by Muhammad to help destabilize and undermine non-Muslim communities almost ripe for a touch of old-fashioned Jihad.I'm not so sure. Dissimulation, by the author's own reference, means concealing, not abandoning, beliefs. For a muslim to adhere to the oath of citizenship would require him to abandon his religious beliefs which explicitly call for the overthrow of infidel governments like the US government. Therefore I don't see how islam is compatible with the U.S. government or most of America and the world for that matter.
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posted on
01/21/2006 10:32:02 AM PST
by
gotribe
(Hillary: Accessory to Rape)
To: Jeremydmccann
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posted on
01/21/2006 10:32:21 AM PST
by
rrrod
To: Jeremydmccann
The venue was a mosque, not in Rawalpindi or Jeddah but in San Francisco.
Before the pervasiveness of moral relativism, this would've been an outrage. Although, I have a feeling that if more people knew what was being said in mosques, in our own country, things might be a little different.
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posted on
01/21/2006 10:32:40 AM PST
by
andyk
(Fear my strategery of misunderestimation.)
To: Dark Skies
From Page 4 of my UNITED STATES Passport, under the sub-heading, "LOSS OF CITIZENSHIP"
Under certain circumstances, you may lose your U.S. citizenship by performing any of the following acts: (1)being naturalized in a foreign state; (2) taking an oath or making a declaration to a foreign state; (3) serving in the armed forces of a foreign state; (4)accepting employment with a foreign government; or (5)formally renouncing U.S. citizenship before a U.S. consular officer overseas For detailed information, consult the nearest American Embassy of Consulate, or contact the Office of Citizens Consular Services, Departmentof State, Washington, DC 20520-4818, or call (202)647-3444
Obviously, you can lose your citizenship whether or not you were born here.
All that's needed is TO ENFORCE THE LAW!!
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posted on
01/21/2006 10:33:49 AM PST
by
Westbrook
(Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it!)
To: VOA
You don't need a pay grade to make this call, it's pretty in-your-face - all you need to do is listen to them.
To: gotribe
To: Jeremydmccann
The United States should declare Islam as a subversive organization with the intent of overthrowing the government of the U.S. and cause all people declared as Muslums to be "persona non grata" and export them!
I know that sounds extreme, but our very survival may depend on it. Would we have allowed declared Nazis in 1943 to remain in this country? I don't think so. In my opinion Islam is not as much a religion as it is a political organization. The daily prayer rituals etc are little more than a form of cult ritual. A way to keep the masses in line.
Kick em out!!
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posted on
01/21/2006 10:36:04 AM PST
by
mc5cents
To: ClearBlueSky
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posted on
01/21/2006 10:36:58 AM PST
by
Noumenon
(Liberal activist judges - out of touch, out of tune, but not out of reach.)
To: Jeremydmccann
Can a Pious Muslim Become a Loyal American? No.
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posted on
01/21/2006 10:37:44 AM PST
by
freedumb2003
(American troops cannot be defeated. American Politicians can.)
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