Posted on 01/21/2006 6:28:05 PM PST by Rakkasan1
The taxpayer advocate at the Internal Revenue Service told Congress last week that since 2001, the I.R.S. has labeled as fraudulent the tax returns of 1.6 million people and has frozen their refunds without notice, although most appear to have done nothing wrong. Overwhelmingly, the taxpayers are poor and are simply applying for a break created for them.
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
Under the rules of the program, a taxpayer isn't told anything until six months after trying to find out what happened to the refund.
View here to learn more: http://www.fairtaxvolunteer.org/news/index.html
And people still think this is a free country. The IRS is the American gestapo.
And Congress is so addicted to other people's money that they are perfectly willing to just look the other way.
the last paragraph had to be included in order to prove it came from the NYT.
the IRS was crap before Bush was president and will be crap long after he's gone.(if the sheeple allow it to exist)
Tax policy during the Bush years has greatly favored rich taxpayers at the ultimate expense of the poor.
What a load. The "rich" are the ones who pay the taxes. What, would liberals melt if they were honest about things?
My first take when I saw the headline and the link was - "Oh here comes another NYT story to bash BUSH". I believe just like you - income tax is bad law ans should be replaced by some tax collection scheme far more equitable. Why are we using the Federal Income tax as a means of giving CASH to low income earners who never pay Fed Income taxes? This is nothing more than an income redistribution scheme hidden from view. Remember when the Bush tax refunds were doled out? The poor had to get something even though they pay no Fed income taxes. Scrap the whole thing and go with a national sales tax. This would punish the consumers and reward the savers, who are the source of financing for capitalism.
Especially since right now I am filling out my tax forms and contemplating the thousands upon thousands I am paying.... and not even a little "refund".
Just think of them as "less fortunate" as in you are very "fortunate" to have worked hard and made a living for yourself .
Howmany were claiming the "slavery reparations" refund?
How many were fudging dependents to boost refund levels?
Howmany were claiming bogus losses?
So many questions...so few answers via the NYT
The IRS loves to pick on people too poor to defend themselves.
They will frequently break the law and keep your money or deny a deduction just to see if you will go to court to fight them.
And congress is perfectly happy to see you repressed by these thugs.
LOL! As if corporate profit, from the sole proprietorship to the the multinational conglomerate were not the fuel which drives the engine of growth.
Without spending (people buying the product) there is no company to invest in, it goes belly up!
Ever heard of child services? They're equally unconstitutional.
I wasn't very clear - a national sales tax would be more fair since poor people do not have as much to spend on consumables as richer people do - the share of tax would be fair. Profits do sustain a company and provide for further investment and R&D, but before profits a new start up must get financing somewhere which is usually by tapping savings via bonds, stocks, loans, etc. Perhaps a flat tax would work, but I think that would not be as fair as a national sales tax. I don't think this would cause people to stop spending because they would no longer owe the IRS thousands of dollars annually therefore they can afford the same product at a higher price to cover the tax.
Finally! Someone who admits that things would cost more with the tax. Thank You!
This debate has been marred from the onset by people assuming that somehow we would get our entire pre-tax paycheck and pay less at the register, too. That stunes my beeber, if you catch my drift.
Anyone who has ever been shopping in Canada has run afoul of the provincial tax, the GST, and the VAT, which can nearly double the price paid for an item by the time you get it out the door.
There is another factor, though, that being that after the elimination of the negative income tax (the EIC), wages will have to increase to make up the difference, or the working poor will not make it. The same people who pay the bulk of the taxes now will end up paying just as much, imo, just in a different way.
In a just world, the people who work at the IRS wouldn't be government employees (because there would be NO IRS). They'd be employed picking green beans by hand in the hot sun day after day. And most congressmen would be behind bars.
Things would be better for us if Congress limited spending to constitutional spending and unconstitutional federal bureaucracies were abolished. But what are we slaves gonna do about it? Most of the slaves are happy on the big government plantation.
I wholeheartedly agree.
It seems that few survive 6 months inside the beltway before they are in the pork barrel, too.
One of the reasons I like Mike Pence in '08 is that he has demonstrated the ability to at least trim the pork.
Can you imagine the Fed employees union rioting, though?
I'd also like to see bills limited to one topic (no omnibus acts with a couple dozen unrelated amendments and riders), and be able to believe that the people voting on them had actually read (and understood) them.
I'm not holding my breath, though.
I'd also like to see every congressman and senator have to pass a test on the Constitution, just to prove they knew what they were swearing to uphold and defend. I'd bet the majority would flunk.
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