Posted on 01/25/2006 10:12:32 AM PST by NYer
I'm with you. But history is written by the victors and Shakespeare didn't help.
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Actually, I've read that the bones were found under the ground during some demolition and laying of new foundations, and may be much more ancient. :')
Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason? Why if it prosper, none dare call it treason. -- Ovid
It was my understanding they found two sets of young boys' bones under a closed-off stairwell during renovations of the tower. Supposedly the ages of the individuals when they died matched the ages of the princes in the tower. One of those wonderful mysteries that just go on and on.
Ah yes, Giovanni Caboto, the famous, ahem, "English" navigator and explorer.
Heh heh.
I thought Richard III had his brother murdered first and then got to the princes - was Shakespeare wrong?
Shakespeare wrote drama not history. ;)
Google seems to be celebrating Mozart's 250th birthday, by the way.
Have you been to the Tower of London? We were there about 15 years ago and in the courtyard area there was a small patch of ground fenced off with a sign that said the little princes had been beheaded there. We took a picture of the patch of grass and when it was developed there were what looked like 2 misty figures there, one a little taller than the other. In another frame the area with full of what appeared to be cigarette smoke, but there were no other people near and no one was smoking anywhere in the area. Weird?
Richard Duke of Gloucester, from a dedication address given at a memorial to Richard the Third said, "...It is, of course, a source of pleasure to me that the man with whom I share not only a title but also a Christian name should be honored in this way." "...(the memorial), derives from a belief that the truth is more powerful than lies, a faith that even after all of these centuries the truth is important. It is proof of our sense of civilized values that something as esoteric and fragile as a reputation is worth campaigning for." Long live the king! The present Duke seems to have the right idea. :O)
As for the princes they were not beheaded. Legend has it that they were smothered while sleeping in their apartment in the Tower. Or maybe they escaped from the Tower and grew old living in the south of France. Who knows? I love hearing about spooky stories. Have you ever watched the Travel Channel? They have some great ghost story shows.
Oh yes, we watch the Travel Channel and the History Channel all the time. We love ghost stores and have stayed at some supposedly haunted hotels and we even had a weird experience.
As far as the little princes are concerned, I have heard more recently that they were smothered but 15 years ago the sign in the tower did say they were beheaded on that spot.
I love British history almost as much as I love Mozart! Thanks for the ping!!
Shakespeare was writing plays during the reign of Elizabeth I (grand-daughter of the usurper and murderer Henry VII), and (I think) a little way into the reign of her successor James I (VIth of Scotland, son of Mary Queen of Scots, a cousin). Neither one would have been on the throne had it not been for the murder of Richard III and the disappearance of the Little Princes.
A lot I know, I thought it was from Shakespeare; perhaps it is, somewhere, but if so, he got it from Ovid.
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