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Iraq Official: Saddam Moved WMD to Syria
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Posted on 01/26/2006 11:56:46 AM PST by French_for_Bush

Edited on 01/26/2006 12:02:58 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Iraq Official: Saddam Moved WMD to Syria

The former number two official in Saddam Hussein's Iraqi air force claims the former Iraqi dictator moved weapons of mass destruction from Iraq to Syria in the months preceding the current Iraq war.

Georges Sada revealed the charges in an interview Wednesday with the New York Sun. They are detailed in his new book, "Saddam’s Secrets.”

"Saddam realized, this time, the Americans are coming," Sada told the Sun. "They handed over the weapons of mass destruction to the Syrians.”

The former Iraqi general said Special Republican Guard brigades loaded WMDs onto two converted Iraqi Airways planes.

He said he was told of the operation by two pilots that helped transport the materials. Sada says 56 flights were made, and were accompanied by a ground convoy of trucks carrying similar materials.

The Sun reports that the flights attracted scant international attention because they occurred at the same time that Iraq was sending relief to Syria for a dam collapse.

Sada’s claims echoed those made by Moshe Yaalon, Israel’s top general in Operation Iraqi Freedom. Yaalon told the Sun in December that Saddam had "transferred the chemical agents from Iraq to Syria.”

According to the Middle East Quarterly, Israeli prime minister Ariel Sharon issued a similar warning in a Dec. 23, 2002 television appearance on Israel’s Channel 2.

"Chemical and biological weapons which Saddam is endeavoring to conceal have been moved from Iraq to Syria,” Sharon said.

Together, their claims challenge the conventional wisdom in the United States and Europe that pre-war intelligence estimates were incorrect in suggesting the mass-murdering Iraqi dictator either possessed or was close to possessing WMDs.

Even President Bush has conceded the point, telling Americans in a televised address in December, "It is true that many nations believed that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction. But much of the intelligence turned out to be wrong.”

Recent reports by Stephen Hayes of the Weekly Standard have similarly challenged the conventional wisdom on Saddam’s relationships with al-Qaida.

Hayes is calling for the release of approximately 2 million unclassified documents recovered in Iraq from the Hussein regime. He claims the documents could prove Saddam maintained significant contacts with al-Qaida.

Sada’s and Yaalon’s claims will be even more difficult, if not impossible, to prove, but several U.S. Senators will try to get to the bottom of the claims. Sada is scheduled to meet with Senators Jeff Sessions, R-Ala., and James Inhofe, R-Okla., next week. Both are members of the Senate Armed Services Committee.


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1 posted on 01/26/2006 11:56:47 AM PST by French_for_Bush
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To: French_for_Bush

I'm shocked!


2 posted on 01/26/2006 11:57:58 AM PST by Michael Barnes (Jake plummer meet the safety blitz, and yes the sky does look nice this time of year, enjoy the view)
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To: French_for_Bush
Whatta shock.
3 posted on 01/26/2006 11:58:27 AM PST by Bratch
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To: French_for_Bush

The Federalist was reporting this 3 years ago.


4 posted on 01/26/2006 11:58:53 AM PST by day10 (I'm gonna be a happy idiot and struggle for the legal tender.....)
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To: French_for_Bush

There's a revelation.


5 posted on 01/26/2006 11:59:11 AM PST by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: French_for_Bush

Not the first time we've heard this.

I wonder if our intelligence agencies have any idea where some of these weapons may be stored.


6 posted on 01/26/2006 12:00:09 PM PST by MplsSteve
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To: French_for_Bush

Hannity is about to interview this guy..


7 posted on 01/26/2006 12:00:42 PM PST by mnehring (Perry 06- It's better than a hippie in a cowboy hat or a commie with blue hair.)
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To: French_for_Bush

Are we trying to see how many times we acn post this story in one day?


8 posted on 01/26/2006 12:00:54 PM PST by cchandler
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To: French_for_Bush
It's not possible!

Teddy "non-swimmer" Kennedy and Mr. Teresa Heinz said so!

What further reliable sources do you need?

9 posted on 01/26/2006 12:01:15 PM PST by Publius6961
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To: Michael Barnes
You could knock me over with a feather.

One bright spot is that some of this stuff requires controlled climate storage and can become completely useless or unstable if it isn't preserved under those conditions. Much of it has a shelf life so the longer it sits, the less potent it becomes.
10 posted on 01/26/2006 12:02:26 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: French_for_Bush
Just to play devil's advocate... We've heard this before haven't we? It seems to be an after-the-fact excuse with little proof. Where are all the corroborating witnesses? Where are the satellite photos to back it up? They moved EVERYTHING out so cleanly? It is a little hard to swallow.
11 posted on 01/26/2006 12:02:29 PM PST by GOP_Party_Animal
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And again...
RandallFlagg: WMDs = Cheese ^
12 posted on 01/26/2006 12:06:12 PM PST by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

There were tons of satellite photos of Iraqi trucks going to Syria befor the war. Those photos don't show what was in the trucks, but transport would be at a premium at the time and Saddam had every reason to hide any WMDs he may have had. Syria would be the best, in fact the only practical place in another country he could move them to.


13 posted on 01/26/2006 12:07:25 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: day10

I don't recall mention of cargo flights with WMDs mentioned at the time or the clever cover of interspersing these flights with relief efforts for a broken dam in Syria.


14 posted on 01/26/2006 12:09:51 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: French_for_Bush

"Even President Bush has conceded the point, telling Americans in a televised address in December, "It is true that many nations believed that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction. But much of the intelligence turned out to be wrong.”

In light of these developments, CNN will say Bush lied about the WMD, that they did in fact exist and he was misleading the American people. /s


15 posted on 01/26/2006 12:12:43 PM PST by balk (Vive Le Canada Libre... Des Liberales)
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To: mnehrling

Hannity already interviewed him. Link to a video of that interview here
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1565160/posts


16 posted on 01/26/2006 12:15:11 PM PST by faq
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To: mnehrling

Is there a live thread?


17 posted on 01/26/2006 12:16:48 PM PST by sarasota
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To: French_for_Bush

A blurb on page 157 of the New York Times.


18 posted on 01/26/2006 12:17:55 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: French_for_Bush


Democrats on suicide watch pending the revelation that Bush was right all along.

"Megadoses of prozac to be prepositioned in New York, San Francisco, and Chicago for distribution to counter the effects the latest revelation of truth will have on the Dems." / next New York Sun headline.


19 posted on 01/26/2006 12:18:47 PM PST by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis. American gals are worth fighting for!")
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

Maybe you should consult the Russian "advisors" who's convoy was bombed heading to Syria.


20 posted on 01/26/2006 12:22:19 PM PST by RasterMaster ("Bin Laden shows others the road to Paradise, but never offers to go along for the ride." GWB)
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To: French_for_Bush

Same thing being reported here :

http://www.nysun.com/article/26514

Notice how we don't get this news from the NY Times, Washington Post, or even Nightline. Are we gonna get this from CNN ? Fat chance.


21 posted on 01/26/2006 12:26:38 PM PST by SirLinksalot
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To: Anti-Bubba182

I dont think The Federalist got to that detail, but they did report where the WMD's likely went back then.


22 posted on 01/26/2006 12:26:49 PM PST by day10 (I'm gonna be a happy idiot and struggle for the legal tender.....)
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To: French_for_Bush

I can't wait for Bush to stand up in front of the whole world and give it the finger! (If this is true!)


23 posted on 01/26/2006 12:29:41 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: day10; MikeinIraq; ImaGraftedBranch; Victoria Delsoul; AmericaUnited; Mr. Mojo; thoughtomator; ...

And who didn't see this coming? Anyone who's been actively following the Iraq War since it's beginning knew that all the evidence meant SOMETHING existed.

Now what's more likely?

That it was moved? Or that it never existed at all?


24 posted on 01/26/2006 12:30:36 PM PST by Ultra Sonic 007 (The opposite of Progress is Congress)
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To: GOP_Party_Animal
Apparently satellite photos can be deceptive so I would like something more. However, I have always thought Syria was involved with the WMDs. Of course, I personally have no proof but it makes sense.
25 posted on 01/26/2006 12:31:20 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: day10
There were numerous reports about the truck traffic to Syria before the war. MSM mentioned many of them but brushed off the idea that part of it contained WMDs or related materials.

Google Search

26 posted on 01/26/2006 12:32:12 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: sarasota
Here it is:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1565632/posts

Also see post 16 here.
27 posted on 01/26/2006 12:33:44 PM PST by mnehring (Perry 06- It's better than a hippie in a cowboy hat or a commie with blue hair.)
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To: French_for_Bush

I wonder where the pilots and cargo handlers are buried.


28 posted on 01/26/2006 12:35:08 PM PST by CATravelAgent (Always remember that you're unique. Just like everyone else.)
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To: mnehrling

Thanks. I've already watched the video from #16. Imagine we'll see lots of support on this from the MSM.


29 posted on 01/26/2006 12:35:10 PM PST by sarasota
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To: French_for_Bush

As I've stated before on this forum, I don't think the administration wants to acknowledge this because they fear that if Syria thought we were going to come after them, they might be further scattered amongst terrorist-sponsoring nations. As it is, our intelligence agencies are undoubtedly trying to learn their exact location and what they consist of so that we have an opportunity to safely destroy them.


30 posted on 01/26/2006 12:40:58 PM PST by Rockitz (After all these years, it's still rocket science.)
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To: SirLinksalot
Iraq's WMD Secreted in Syria, Sada Says

The Sun article said:

"..He said he had not shared his story until now with any American officials. "I kept everything secret in my heart," he said. But he is scheduled to meet next week in Washington with Senators Sessions and Inhofe, Republicans of, respectively, Alabama and Oklahoma. Both are members of the Senate Armed Services Committee..."

These are new disclosures from someone with connections to know. The Sun article also names names and specific details we did not know before, such as:

"..Mr. Sada said that the Iraqi official responsible for transferring the weapons was a cousin of Saddam Hussein named Ali Hussein al-Majid, known as "Chemical Ali." The Syrian official responsible for receiving them was a cousin of Bashar Assad who is known variously as General Abu Ali, Abu Himma, or Zulhimawe..."

We won't be getting admissions from those two, but this is a lot more specific that satellite phots of truck traffic.

31 posted on 01/26/2006 12:41:27 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: CATravelAgent
I wonder where the pilots and cargo handlers are buried.

That's one of the first things I thought of. Would help to explain the lack of witnesses... Or does that just sound like a conspiracy theory?

32 posted on 01/26/2006 12:49:24 PM PST by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: CATravelAgent
With these people most likely...





WARNING:Graphic and slow loading... It is where some of the WMD went.
33 posted on 01/26/2006 12:50:00 PM PST by Issaquahking
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To: MplsSteve
The Bekka Valley in Lebanon is my bet.

L

34 posted on 01/26/2006 12:53:47 PM PST by Lurker (Liberal policies break hearts and destroy lives, no matter which Party tries them.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007; All

Jon Loftus at IntellSummit.org Febraury 18th, more details! ;)


35 posted on 01/26/2006 12:58:01 PM PST by Perdogg ("Facts are stupid things." - President Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: faq

for later viewing - thanks


36 posted on 01/26/2006 1:02:44 PM PST by my4kidsdad
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To: French_for_Bush

THe Republicans shouldn't jump on this as truth.

But they SHOULD call for immediate hearings in the congress, because of how serious this could be. If the report is TRUE, they should say, it means that Syria is holding a large cache of WMD, and we need to know that so we can put together a resolution to force them to turn it over to the international community.

This would be a much more important and necessary hearing, they would add, then even the hearings into the NSA stuff which don't threaten our country with mass destruction.

How would the Democrats argue AGAINST holding lengthy public hearings on this subject, without looking like they were playing politics with our security?


37 posted on 01/26/2006 1:08:48 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Yes, and that should be easy to corroberate, just see how many flights were sent, and then figure out how many would have been needed to deliver the relief.


38 posted on 01/26/2006 1:09:57 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Perdogg

I heard John Loftus last night on the John Batchelor show, which KSFO plays between 3 and 5 am each morning -- JL said that he has a CD of Saddam's conversations regarding weapons of mass destruction which Saddam compiled himself, including 30 to 40 other persons, all or most of whom have been identified, that the CD is authentic, and that it proves Saddam had WMDs.

Loftus was not given any details, saying that they would be revealed at his February 18, 2006, conference. He refused to answer a few of JB's direct questions, stating "wait until the 18th". JL said that the CD was just laying around in US possession for three years before someone finally listened to it.

Sounds too good to be true.


39 posted on 01/26/2006 1:11:02 PM PST by Flash Bazbeaux ("I'll have the moo goo gai pan without the pan, and some pans.")
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To: French_for_Bush
Live on Hannity NOW.

About to spill his guts on WMDs.

40 posted on 01/26/2006 1:14:28 PM PST by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: Luke Skyfreeper

They were used by helicopters, by fighters, we were using them. The Iraqi army was using them.


41 posted on 01/26/2006 1:15:07 PM PST by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: Luke Skyfreeper

"Saddam's Secrets: How an Iraqi General Defied and Survived Saddam Hussein."

Published 2 days ago, currently #124 in Amazon.com's sales rank and #272 at Barnes & Noble.


42 posted on 01/26/2006 1:18:13 PM PST by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: Lurker
The Bekka Valley in Lebanon is my bet.

My bet is that they're all over the planet by now.

43 posted on 01/26/2006 1:24:12 PM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: Luke Skyfreeper

"Oh yes, 100% after 1998 they were there and they were in the process of hiding... they were hid until the summer of 2002. When he realized the Americans are coming he... transported these... and jumbo 747s and 727s, they were transported to Syria."

"Many senior captains in the Iraq air force... they told me all this and after I knew I was shocked... I understood they were shifted to Syria."

Hannity: "So everything was brought to Syria?"

"That's it..."


44 posted on 01/26/2006 1:25:00 PM PST by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: Luke Skyfreeper

Hannity: Was it Saddam's goal to destroy Israel?

Yes... he thought the Americans would never attack, and if they did... migs would penetrate to Israel... at this time I said sir... these airplanes and chemical weapons will be destroyed and dropped over our people, this will give chance to Israel to detonate a nuclear weapon, this is a disaster, the whole region will be destroyed.


45 posted on 01/26/2006 1:26:44 PM PST by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: Luke Skyfreeper

Osama bin Laden was coming...


46 posted on 01/26/2006 1:27:08 PM PST by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: F16Fighter

Not as important as day 28 of the Abu Ghraib scandal (a story which was "front page" news at the NYetTimes for 30 days).

This is an "update" to the continuing search for WMDs. Long ago it was determined by the liberal elites that they didn't exist. Therefore this is just a correction to the old stories. Corrections normally run on page 157, right?


47 posted on 01/26/2006 1:31:02 PM PST by weegee
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To: Luke Skyfreeper

So much for "Bush lied, they died."

Of course there were many of us who always KNEW Saddam had extremely dangerous weapons of mass destruction, that he styled himself as the great new Nebuchadnezzar and had designs to destroy and "humble" our country and HAD to be taken out before he used them against us. Many of us have always known that PRESIDENT BUSH DID PRECISELY THE RIGHT THING IN GOING IN AND REMOVING THE ANIMAL THAT HAD A GUN POINTED AT OUR CHILDREN'S HEADS.

Didn't stop a boatloads of idiots and self-serving leftist @'oles from making their accusations, though.


48 posted on 01/26/2006 1:34:17 PM PST by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: Rockitz

The UN put out a report the summer of 04 stating that the WMD went to Syria and from there some have made it to Turkey and Holland. Sounds like Europe is gonna have some "fun" in the future.


49 posted on 01/26/2006 1:36:58 PM PST by lizma
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To: French_for_Bush

We pretty much knew this was the case. I wonder if the "mainstream" media knows about it.


50 posted on 01/26/2006 1:37:44 PM PST by Just Lori (Oh my soul, be prepared to meet Him who knows how to ask questions.)
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