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FREEPERS!!! Give John Kerry his due credit. Seriously
Vanity ^ | John K.

Posted on 01/27/2006 7:47:05 AM PST by jsk10

An aide to Sen. Cornyn said that John Kerry is like "Christmas every day" for Republicans. Someone here said it was "Christmas in Cambodia" every day for Republicans. God bless 'em both. But what I REALLY want, is John Kerry to be the 2008 nominee for the Dems. Seriously. We couldn't get Dean in '04, but if we can make sure John Kerry gets credit for his political ploy here, maybe it will be the best gift of all.

I actually am serious about this. Those that dissent from my opinion will not be flamed. But who would you rather have carrying the (d) mantle. Sharpton?


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To: Ramius
(Some have accused Liveshot of being a bit, well, pompous and long-winded)

"Gather ye 'round, mortal peons, whilst I hurl this sphere of horsehide into yon leather device on the hand of he called 'catcher.' For who among us does not love the ball of base? Did I mention I served in Vietnam?"

21 posted on 01/27/2006 8:06:28 AM PST by TheBigB (Moooooomm! I'll pick up my clothes later! I'm busy raging aginst the machine!)
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To: Wombat101

Correction:

"Two southern nitwits with serious mental problems, convinced that each is the Messiah, NEITHER OF WHOM COULD CARRY THEIR HOME STATE, while keeping Gore in his deservedly subordinate role as Presidential Puppy-cleaner-upper."

My Bad...


22 posted on 01/27/2006 8:12:05 AM PST by Wombat101 (Islam: Turning everything it touches to Shi'ite since 632 AD...)
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To: jsk10
we all keep laughing and thinking Kerry is an idiot and he very well may be. What concerns me is that many people pulled the lever for him and he came really damn close to beating Bush.

Sure there may be pockets going more conservative, but overall people are becoming more liberal and "moderation" is becoming what many people want.

23 posted on 01/27/2006 8:12:20 AM PST by Battle Hymn of the Republic
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To: jsk10

Kerry should be exiled to North Vietnam since he loves them so much. What did they do to war time collaborators in WWII?

Kerry's time is way overdue. Maybe he and Kennedy could make a party of it. Crash and burn together!


24 posted on 01/27/2006 8:12:52 AM PST by Tannerone
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To: blau993

Sharpton seems to think he's got a shot at the ticket. No joke.


25 posted on 01/27/2006 8:15:27 AM PST by popdonnelly
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To: jsk10
Chickens, unhatched type, quantity uncounted.
I think it smells strongly of hubris to brag about all the Dem nominees we can beat when we don't have a clue about who is going to be the Republican nominee. We could get two strong conservatives who won't back down and end up either holding our noses and voting the Rino, or not.
26 posted on 01/27/2006 8:16:19 AM PST by magslinger (If at first you don't succeed, squeeze, squeeze again.)
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To: jsk10
" ... But who would you rather have carrying the (d) mantle. Sharpton?"


Any one of the "nine dwarves" that ran last time would be fine. Hell, I'll even toss in that Clinton bimbo.

In fact Hillarity and Mostly Braun would be a real good ticket!





27 posted on 01/27/2006 8:19:00 AM PST by G.Mason (Iwo Jima ... 6,825 American's died in the 36 days of that battle. We did not quit John Murtha!)
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To: kentj
I am sorry but I cannot give Kerry credit for anything

Oh come on. You should at least give him credit for being a snappy dresser.


28 posted on 01/27/2006 8:19:43 AM PST by ASA Vet (Those who know don't talk, those who talk don't know.)
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To: jsk10
But who would you rather have carrying the (d) mantle. Sharpton?

I would rather the Democrats put forth a candidate with integrity, and with the much more "conservative" views the party once held on many issues. It's unlikely to happen in the forseeable future, but I can dream can't I?

29 posted on 01/27/2006 8:20:15 AM PST by untrained skeptic
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To: magslinger

I absolutely agree with you to a point. Hubris is dangerous. But that is why it is all the more important to have a WEAK Dem. candidate. Seriously. Give me Kerry/Sharpton/Kucinich on the Dem ticket, and I'll put up any two Repubs with a Falwell, Robertson, and Jenna Bush cabinet. We'd win with 65% of the vote.


30 posted on 01/27/2006 8:20:52 AM PST by jsk10
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To: Battle Hymn of the Republic

Actually, a good number of those Kerry votes were "anyone but Bush votes" without any other outlet. At least in 2000, the tie-died-tree-hugging-latte-swilling-faux-disaffected crowdn had Nader to pull the lever for. Not so lucky this time around. These were simply Howard Dean votes (and Howard Dean money, which is why he's still on the scene. The dems learned they can both keep Dean's money machine and trick his legions into believing they've been heard, by keeping Dean himself far away from the ballot, but giving him a sinecure with prestige).

Interesting thought experiment; suppose Dean managed to survive on some third-party ticket. Now run the numbers in a race of Bush-Kerry-Dean. Does John Kerry still garner 56 million or so votes? Does he still carry any major electoral jackpot other than California? Answer: Hell no. I believe he loses Washington, Oregon and possibly Wisconsin in this scenario.

Don't believe for a second that Kerry was all that popular amongst democrats. The early hype for Dean and the screams for "Hilary NOW!", should have made that apparent. However, he was the candidate the apparatchiks wanted and so democrats did what they were told and voted for him.

Had there been a viable, credible third-party candidate, even serving as a symbolic protest (like Nader in 2000, who cost Gore Florida), Kerry would have lost by a much wider margin.


31 posted on 01/27/2006 8:21:53 AM PST by Wombat101 (Islam: Turning everything it touches to Shi'ite since 632 AD...)
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To: Baynative

FOFL!


32 posted on 01/27/2006 8:22:26 AM PST by prairiebreeze (We are grateful to our fine military. God bless them and their families.)
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To: jsk10

Kerry or Clintoon, or maybe a Kerry Clintoon ticket! Yeah!


33 posted on 01/27/2006 8:25:08 AM PST by Pylot
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To: jsk10
Do you mean weak like being a drug smoking, draft dodging philanerer with a wife who makes fishy sounding investments?

Give me a strong, conservative candidate, and who cares what the Dems do.

34 posted on 01/27/2006 8:25:41 AM PST by magslinger (If at first you don't succeed, squeeze, squeeze again.)
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To: magslinger
philanerer=philanderer

Edit twice, post once.

35 posted on 01/27/2006 8:28:14 AM PST by magslinger (If at first you don't succeed, squeeze, squeeze again.)
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To: jsk10

I'm betting on Mrs. Bill Clinton / Obama Barak (sp?) '08


36 posted on 01/27/2006 8:29:42 AM PST by sawmill trash (You declare jihad ... we declare DEGUELLO !)
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To: jsk10
The more outrageous, the better.

I have a "winning" ticket for the 'Rats:

Sharpton/Churchill '08!!!!

37 posted on 01/27/2006 8:30:34 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: jsk10

Actually, the REAL democratic party problem: they have a pool of potential candidates who haven't realized that the Summer of Love is over, and in the end, accomplished nothing.

The problem is psychological. The 1960's, to them, is the watershed event of their lives. They believe they "spoke truth to power" and "fought the establishment" without realizing they did nothing of the sort, on the one hand, and that they have become the establishment (that whioch they hated!), on the other. They haven't grown up mentally or ideologically. They cannot let their (mostly wasted) youth go. The current crop of Dem front-runners are, to our lasting shame, the "best" of the most narcissistic, ignorant, selfish generation ever coddled on American shores. That is until THEIR children grow up to assume responsibility, of course.

And with that 1960's mindset comes 1960's ideas, most of them demonstrably wrong, but like cats, you can't teach 'em anything.


38 posted on 01/27/2006 8:35:28 AM PST by Wombat101 (Islam: Turning everything it touches to Shi'ite since 632 AD...)
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To: jsk10

Hillary's numbers are looking pretty good. (For the Republicans).


39 posted on 01/27/2006 8:38:22 AM PST by sportutegrl (People who say, "All I know is . . ." really mean, "All I want you to focus on is . . .")
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To: Wombat101
I see your point but in 2006 it will be "anyone but conservative votes". The sheeple will believe what the media says, not matter how amoral or dishonest someone really is.

Many factors kept Florida from Gore, first and foremost was God's intervention. I'm just saying that it is silly for us to think that a "conservative" will win big in 06.

I could very well be wrong but even if another reagan were to come around I feel he wouldn't/couldn't get elected. I wish it were not true but the 5th columnists have set up shop and they are here to stay.

40 posted on 01/27/2006 8:42:21 AM PST by Battle Hymn of the Republic
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