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Russia Moved Iraqi WMD
News Max ^ | March 3, 2005 | Charles R. Smith

Posted on 01/28/2006 8:41:24 PM PST by strategofr

Moscow Moved Weapons to Syria and Lebanon

According to a former top Bush administration official, Russian special forces teams moved weapons of mass destruction out of Iraq to Syria.

"I am absolutely sure that Russian Spetsnatz units moved WMD out of Iraq before the war," stated John Shaw, the former deputy undersecretary for international technology security. According to Shaw, Russian units hid Saddam's arsenal inside Syria and in Lebanon's Bekka valley.

"While in Iraq I uncovered detailed information that Spetsnatz units shredded records and moved all WMD and specified advanced munitions out of Iraq to Syria and Lebanon," stated Shaw during an exclusive interview.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: baathism; chicoms; china; coldwar2; communism; iran; iraq; johnshaw; kgb; prequel; putin; rasputin; russia; saddam; sovietunion; spetsnatz; spetsnaz; syria; terrorism; ussr; wmd
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To: strategofr
There is no question that the Russian effort to remove Iraqi WMD systems was the most successful intelligence operation of the 21st century. The Russians were able to move hundreds of tons of chemical, biological and nuclear materials without being discovered by CIA satellites or NSA radio listening posts.

"There is a clear sense on how effective they were," noted Shaw.

"The fact that the CIA did not know shows just how successful the Russian operation was," he concluded.

Scary!

81 posted on 01/29/2006 9:55:39 AM PST by Fruitbat
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To: strategofr

rumors


82 posted on 01/29/2006 9:56:22 AM PST by stand4somethin
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To: Political Junkie Too

" Wow! What a concept, the "real" truth!

-PJ"

Something lefties don't believe in, eh?


83 posted on 01/29/2006 9:57:47 AM PST by strategofr (Hillary stole 1000+ secret FBI files on DC movers & shakers, Hillary's Secret War, Poe, p. xiv)
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To: Thunder90

"Spetsnaz are in Venezuela right now, with their Chinese pals."

Have a reference?


84 posted on 01/29/2006 9:58:11 AM PST by strategofr (Hillary stole 1000+ secret FBI files on DC movers & shakers, Hillary's Secret War, Poe, p. xiv)
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To: DTogo

"If true, our intelligence failed BIG TIME, especially right before an invasion when you'd think we knew everything happening on the ground."

At this point, we know our intelligence failed big-time no matter what was true.

I have a feeling Bush's new appointment, Goss, is doing major housecleaning in the CIA. This may be the third best piece of news in the Bush administration, after the successes and the war on terror and the new judges.


85 posted on 01/29/2006 10:00:26 AM PST by strategofr (Hillary stole 1000+ secret FBI files on DC movers & shakers, Hillary's Secret War, Poe, p. xiv)
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To: strategofr
CIA Failed There is no question that the Russian effort to remove Iraqi WMD systems was the most successful intelligence operation of the 21st century. The Russians were able to move hundreds of tons of chemical, biological and nuclear materials without being discovered by CIA satellites or NSA radio listening posts. "There is a clear sense on how effective they were," noted Shaw. "The fact that the CIA did not know shows just how successful the Russian operation was," he concluded.

What a pile of BS from this author.

I and many others knew this was going on. Hell, we gave Iraq a full year's warning. The reports of large truck movements toward Syria were in the news back then. I remember that clearly and we all knew what was going on.

86 posted on 01/29/2006 10:00:43 AM PST by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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To: Txsleuth

"There ARE millions of pieces of Iraq correspondence and records that we have custody of ...the problem is getting them translated by people that don't have an agenda..."

Well put. You indicate two problems: we need to clean out the State Department we need more Arabic translators.


87 posted on 01/29/2006 10:01:34 AM PST by strategofr (Hillary stole 1000+ secret FBI files on DC movers & shakers, Hillary's Secret War, Poe, p. xiv)
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To: zot

" Now I can't find those photos anywhere."

Oops! They got lost. (Too bad you didn't download them. You could repost them here.)


88 posted on 01/29/2006 10:03:07 AM PST by strategofr (Hillary stole 1000+ secret FBI files on DC movers & shakers, Hillary's Secret War, Poe, p. xiv)
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To: stuartcr

Well some of us have accepted what the truth is and some of us are still looking for every tidbit from World Nut Daily and Newsmax that could confirm possibly our theories...


89 posted on 01/29/2006 10:06:00 AM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: Stellar Dendrite


"Russia Hid Saddam's WMDs by Ion Pacepa"

Absolutely superb reference.

I remember Ion Pacepa talking about this kind of thing more generally, I think it was in his book Red Horizons. How they always had a plan to remove all traces of weapons of mass destruction from a country within three weeks.


90 posted on 01/29/2006 10:07:15 AM PST by strategofr (Hillary stole 1000+ secret FBI files on DC movers & shakers, Hillary's Secret War, Poe, p. xiv)
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To: beaver fever

"This thread is 100% gold plated tin foil."

Are you a beaver with a fever?since


91 posted on 01/29/2006 10:08:59 AM PST by strategofr (Hillary stole 1000+ secret FBI files on DC movers & shakers, Hillary's Secret War, Poe, p. xiv)
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To: jb6

"Ion Pacepa-- Soviet Romanian mass murderer who switched sides when he saw the fall coming and has become the neocon(artists) favorite hero. The man butchered and oppressed his people in the worst dictatorship since Stalin's. The man should have been put up against the wall with Cecesque, his former master."

I can't remember what your politics are, but Ion Pacepa is one of the best sources of truth about Soviet evil that we have. As such, he is one of the best sources of truths about the leftist evil that still faces us today, still covertly led by the Russians. The fact that you oppose him so strongly either indicates that you are ill-informed or that you want this evil covered up. Have you read Red Horizons?


92 posted on 01/29/2006 10:12:46 AM PST by strategofr (Hillary stole 1000+ secret FBI files on DC movers & shakers, Hillary's Secret War, Poe, p. xiv)
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To: GarySpFc
Re: 55,

Hmm. Appears you are right & I am wrong. I didn't know this was that same guy who resigned. Sorry about that,

93 posted on 01/29/2006 10:15:58 AM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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To: RusIvan

"He don't even know what is it Speznaz. Speznaz is special operation forces means commandos. They destroy a lot. Like to blow up bridges or ammunision depots. They do not move nothing. Simply don't have means for it."

This sounds like a simple job. Spetsnaz was surely capable of it.


94 posted on 01/29/2006 10:15:58 AM PST by strategofr (Hillary stole 1000+ secret FBI files on DC movers & shakers, Hillary's Secret War, Poe, p. xiv)
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To: F16Fighter

"No way they'd left any evidence around...Although some capitalist-thinking ex-KGB agents may have socked some stuff away to sell on ebay some day"

It is also possible that if that happy day ever came, the KGB would have more important things on their mind than destroying records---like saving their own skins.


95 posted on 01/29/2006 10:18:39 AM PST by strategofr (Hillary stole 1000+ secret FBI files on DC movers & shakers, Hillary's Secret War, Poe, p. xiv)
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To: Oh Come On
I’m loving this scenario, Saddam says, I’m about to be attacked by the most powerful military in recorded history, I want my army obliterated and my government toppled in 3 weeks, so I’ll just give ALL of my most powerful weapons away, crawl into a hole and hope they go away.

This was a great plan. And of source he acquired WMDs exactly to be able to execute it.

96 posted on 01/29/2006 10:23:13 AM PST by A. Pole (Evolution has demonstrated that the optimal IQ is the average IQ !)
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To: strategofr

They probably moved them because they all had "made in Russia" printed on the side.


97 posted on 01/29/2006 10:34:27 AM PST by AmericanChef
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To: strategofr

"I can't remember what your politics are"

please, strategofr.....he is a shill for the murdering thug putin. it is fairly obvious. anyone who makes putin look bad, jb6 attacks with fury.


99 posted on 01/29/2006 10:59:34 AM PST by Stellar Dendrite (There's nothing "Mainstream" about the Orwellian Media!!!)
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To: ExSES

And on Iraqi Shias in the South, "Marsh Arabs."

http://www.shianews.com/hi/middle_east/news_id/0000866.php


100 posted on 01/29/2006 12:55:52 PM PST by dervish (Hamastan " the step-child of Iran and the Taliban")
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