Posted on 01/29/2006 10:28:54 AM PST by NormsRevenge
Full support means calling, working, donating. I would say the author is full of it!
I wonder which "principles" those are. Marin has about as much credibility as Maldonado.
It would be nice if supporters of those socialist Democrats would stop claiming that they are conservatives.
Let me get this straight.
Are you suggesting that not supporting McCain, for example, equates to support for Dean or Gore?
Seems like twisted logic to me.
I just remembered that Maldonado is the one carrying the legislation for the Minimum Wage increase.
How many trojan horses(R) do we have in Sacramento?
Ok, look what happened to Russia. Yes the commies got what they wanted and they did themselves in, but no way would I want to go that route.
You are wrong. The truth is anyone who supports the democrats or by their inaction, allows them to gain traction is not fit to remain a republican.
Which leads to the obvious question:
Now that the CAGOP's ploy to support at least one conservative for statewide office has so obviously failed to mollify the grass roots, when will they pull the financial plug?
During the primary? During the summer campaign? Will they surreptitiously help recruit a last minute opponent in the primary? Should he win, in spite of their best efforts, will they relegate him to ceremonial activities and ban him from the inner circle?
These are the questions that conservatives need to ask Sundheim in San Jose next month.
A logical, partisan truth but not the subject of this thread.
Conservatives are simply asking the CAGOP to allow then to vote for a conservative. The rage is not about the general election but rather about the abridgment of traditions and principles by the party with regard to the Republican primary.
If the CAGOP were to open the June primary, this partisan bickering would not be occurring. The conservatives would be working on elect a conservative and the neoliberals would be working to sustain the Wilsonegger gang. If the conservatives lost, fair and square, in the primary there would be a much better chance for these disparate factions to coalesce in time for the fall election.
Should the CAGOP, in February, sustain their support of a liberal administration then it is highly likely that the "votes not cast" statistics will skyrocket from 2% to 10% in November, at the top of the ballot. It would be a first in California history if there were more total votes cast for Lt. Governor than Governor. It may well happen if the CAGOP keeps leaning left.
so your tagline is intended to win folks that have gone "astray" back to your side of the argument, whatever that might be? or just to insult folks?
lol
So you prefer an incremental death ? Racking up more debt is going to lead to tax hike like you won't believe.
In the CA gubernatorial election the choice will be Arnold or the Dem nominee. You are trying to help the Dem nominee by trying to create some useful idiots, who will buy your propaganda, to split the conservative vote, to get your socialist Dem candidates elected.
Did you notice that on the board, there are only the same 3-4 of you that try to make it appear that there is strong support for the Dems, i.e. against Arnold on this board.
From recent posts, it looks like you are a small minority here, most REAL conservatives understand the stakes and the reality.
Most of your posts fall in the "are you that stupid or do you think we are category". I don't think that any of you are stupid, in the least, so you must know exactly what you are doing and must think that everyone else on this board is so stupid, so as not to see through your very obvious inconsistenices and hypocrisy.
Your only consistency is that ALL your positions try to help the Dems get elected and further their agenda -- you did this by helping the defeat the reform propositions and now you are trying to defeat Arnols.
You are even taking up Kerry's "strategy" of trying to claim all these "nuances".
on the ballot, there are NO nuances, you vote yes or no and you voted with the Dems and continue to work against Arnold, to help the Dems get elected.
By your own admission you voted against the propositions supported by Republicans and conservatives. The Dems pulled out all the stops to defeat them and you helped. this is the bottom line. And only the bottom line counts, NOT your nuanced, Kerry-like wiggles.
Judge allows extra union dues to fight Calif ballot Props 75, 76, Nov. 4, 2005
THE CA PROPOSITIONS; Democratic and Republican activists discuss the propositions
Dean urges voters to reject measures governor supports [California]
Davis opposes Schwarzenegger's reform initiatives
CA: Feinstein to oppose Schwarzenegger's special election initiatives
John Alden (Marin cnty Dem Party chairman): Vote no on Prop 76 - we need better leaders
Top Democratic leaders at Penmar Park rally to 'swat' governor's special election measures. Key note speaker: Angelides, Dem candidate for governor
Liberal groups (Moveon.org) try to link special election to broader GOP agenda
Open letter from Phil Angelides (opposing Schwarzenegger and the Propositions)
McClintock's recommendations for CA Propositions
Summary of Recommendations on the CA Propositions by various organizations and parties
CA: McClintock stumps for governor's ballot initiatives
Ad watch: McClintock in radio spot supporting Prop. 76 (includes actual text)
Supporters of the CA Propositions 74-77 include CA Club for Growth, Howard Jarvis Taxpayer Association, Ray Haynes, San Fernando Valley Town Hall Conservatives, Republican Party, and many others. Click on the link for a more comprehensive list.
And you can see from links above who are the ones opposing them: Democrats, Unions, Gray Davis, Howard Dean, Phil Angelides, MoveOn.org, various Dem party chairmen, etc.
OOOOooooo... who touched your hot button?
Do as we tell you or you will be dealt with,
Nice try , FO.
His record and associations speak for themselves and you or no one can change those facts.
Your idiotic continued posts that if you don't walk lockstep with a Pro-abortion, anti-gun, in the pocket of major developers and Wall St bond traders, hype is all I have, how many gays and greens can I appoint this week, hug a dem Gub does nothing to advance his image one bit above that of a Trojan Horse, in my eyes.
I may need reading glasses, but that aside, I would like to think you weren't stupid either but your posts speak volumes otherwise.
Any serious practitioners of political analysis would come to the conclusion that you are destitute of convincing arguments so all you now do is try and belittle a few and claim that yours is the side with overwhelming support. LOLOL
Sorry, sweetie, your bubble was popped a long time ago.
Btw, you don't support having a primary, right?
Why actually put the Gub in a position where we could all see how much support he really has here or elsewhere.
Unfortunately for you, dems wouldn't be allowed to participate as it wouldnt be an open primary, and he might actually have to debate issues instead of toss sound bites around like cheap cigars.
Not even McCain can save him were he forced to go thru the process. Wouldn't that frost your toes to see another Moderate defeated like Riordan , that must have really stewed your juices , huh? lolol
It'd be a pity to have to go thru that again, huh? ;-)
Oh and btw, this is low, but par for you,,
".. even turned against Tom McClintock and questioned his integrity, "
where and when? What an insultative wench you have resorted to being, or maybe it isn't just an act, huh?
Oh, re nuances.. LOLOL
You wouldn't know a nuance if it slapped you upside your head.
Nuances are for "girliemen".
It does explain a lot about you and who you choose to support.
Now run off to your LGBT meeting at the
New Majority offices and don't be late.
They might dock your pay.
".. even turned against Tom McClintock and questioned his integrity, "
where and when? What an insultative wench you have resorted to being, or maybe it isn't just an act, huh?
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I only speak the truth.
It really is too bad I don't have time to save all posts that might at some time be useful.
In threads debating Prop. 76, there were several posts by your "ilk" attacking McClintock, questioning his integrity, accusing him of having sold our his principles, when he campaigned with Arnold for the reform propositions and even made an ad FOR Prop. 76. IN fact they were nastier than any of the pro-Arnold posters during the recall, regarding McC. Go look at some of those threads.
That was the last piece in the puzzle that proved to me conclusively that the last thing your ilk wants is conservatives being elected or conservative principles to be victorious. They are just using that to bamboozle those who let them.
It really is too bad I don't have time to save all posts that might at some time be useful.
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No, you're to busy making up crap and posting it. ;-).
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That was the last piece in the puzzle that proved to me conclusively that the last thing your ilk wants is conservatives being elected or conservative principles to be victorious. They are just using that to bamboozle those who let them.
Like I said , the Gub's record speaks for itself.
Any claim to being a fiscal much less social conservative is just that, a claim, not supported by the facts of his and his administrations record to date. Oh nad spare us the VLF retraction, workers comp, and gay marriage and illegals licenses vetos,
They are well offset by the massive borrowing, huge numbers of greens gays and dems appointed, you know the rest.
"Here you have a guy who did what these folks wanted," Maldonado said in an interview. "He eliminated the vehicle license fee. He fixed workers' compensation. He reduced the deficit. He cut spending."
I guess you will be voting against Maldonado too.
Heck, Im not 100% enamored of him.
I await the results of the San Jose state convention before deciding.
I may just not vote at all or not for all those sanctioned by the Gop anyway. Their record is not that hot of late in case you haven't noticed in who and how they back candidates and on what basis.
That is still legal, I hope?
He reduced the deficit. He cut spending.
I guess you will be voting against Maldonado too.
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He also increased borrowing and plays the smoke and mirrors game just like the Gub we recalled not so long ago.
Abel does seem to have a tendency to stretch things a bit, if ya wanna get picky. ;-)
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