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To: calcowgirl; NormsRevenge; Amerigomag
You can try to obfuscate and zig and zag, but all that doesn't change the FACTS that in CA if you are not FOR Arnold, you are FOR the Dems. All of you do everything humanly possible to support and get the Dems elected, as you DEMONSTRATED TANGIBLY, by voting FOR the Dem agenda, by defeating the reform propositions, even turned against Tom McClintock and questioned his integrity, because he and every other REAL conservative supported the reform propositions, which were important steps in the right direction.

In the CA gubernatorial election the choice will be Arnold or the Dem nominee. You are trying to help the Dem nominee by trying to create some useful idiots, who will buy your propaganda, to split the conservative vote, to get your socialist Dem candidates elected.

Did you notice that on the board, there are only the same 3-4 of you that try to make it appear that there is strong support for the Dems, i.e. against Arnold on this board.

From recent posts, it looks like you are a small minority here, most REAL conservatives understand the stakes and the reality.

Most of your posts fall in the "are you that stupid or do you think we are category". I don't think that any of you are stupid, in the least, so you must know exactly what you are doing and must think that everyone else on this board is so stupid, so as not to see through your very obvious inconsistenices and hypocrisy.

Your only consistency is that ALL your positions try to help the Dems get elected and further their agenda -- you did this by helping the defeat the reform propositions and now you are trying to defeat Arnols.

You are even taking up Kerry's "strategy" of trying to claim all these "nuances".

on the ballot, there are NO nuances, you vote yes or no and you voted with the Dems and continue to work against Arnold, to help the Dems get elected.

By your own admission you voted against the propositions supported by Republicans and conservatives. The Dems pulled out all the stops to defeat them and you helped. this is the bottom line. And only the bottom line counts, NOT your nuanced, Kerry-like wiggles.

Judge allows extra union dues to fight Calif ballot Props 75, 76, Nov. 4, 2005
THE CA PROPOSITIONS; Democratic and Republican activists discuss the propositions
Dean urges voters to reject measures governor supports [California]
Davis opposes Schwarzenegger's reform initiatives
CA: Feinstein to oppose Schwarzenegger's special election initiatives
John Alden (Marin cnty Dem Party chairman): Vote no on Prop 76 - we need better leaders
Top Democratic leaders at Penmar Park rally to 'swat' governor's special election measures. Key note speaker: Angelides, Dem candidate for governor
Liberal groups (Moveon.org) try to link special election to broader GOP agenda
Open letter from Phil Angelides (opposing Schwarzenegger and the Propositions)
McClintock's recommendations for CA Propositions
Summary of Recommendations on the CA Propositions by various organizations and parties
CA: McClintock stumps for governor's ballot initiatives
Ad watch: McClintock in radio spot supporting Prop. 76 (includes actual text)
Supporters of the CA Propositions 74-77 include CA Club for Growth, Howard Jarvis Taxpayer Association, Ray Haynes, San Fernando Valley Town Hall Conservatives, Republican Party, and many others. Click on the link for a more comprehensive list.
And you can see from links above who are the ones opposing them: Democrats, Unions, Gray Davis, Howard Dean, Phil Angelides, MoveOn.org, various Dem party chairmen, etc.

51 posted on 01/29/2006 6:04:58 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion

OOOOooooo... who touched your hot button?


Do as we tell you or you will be dealt with,
Nice try , FO.

His record and associations speak for themselves and you or no one can change those facts.

Your idiotic continued posts that if you don't walk lockstep with a Pro-abortion, anti-gun, in the pocket of major developers and Wall St bond traders, hype is all I have, how many gays and greens can I appoint this week, hug a dem Gub does nothing to advance his image one bit above that of a Trojan Horse, in my eyes.

I may need reading glasses, but that aside, I would like to think you weren't stupid either but your posts speak volumes otherwise.


Any serious practitioners of political analysis would come to the conclusion that you are destitute of convincing arguments so all you now do is try and belittle a few and claim that yours is the side with overwhelming support. LOLOL

Sorry, sweetie, your bubble was popped a long time ago.

Btw, you don't support having a primary, right?
Why actually put the Gub in a position where we could all see how much support he really has here or elsewhere.

Unfortunately for you, dems wouldn't be allowed to participate as it wouldnt be an open primary, and he might actually have to debate issues instead of toss sound bites around like cheap cigars.


Not even McCain can save him were he forced to go thru the process. Wouldn't that frost your toes to see another Moderate defeated like Riordan , that must have really stewed your juices , huh? lolol

It'd be a pity to have to go thru that again, huh? ;-)

Oh and btw, this is low, but par for you,,

".. even turned against Tom McClintock and questioned his integrity, "

where and when? What an insultative wench you have resorted to being, or maybe it isn't just an act, huh?


52 posted on 01/29/2006 6:19:22 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: FairOpinion

Oh, re nuances.. LOLOL

You wouldn't know a nuance if it slapped you upside your head.


53 posted on 01/29/2006 6:23:10 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: FairOpinion
I asked a simple question and you launch into the same slurs and allegations that have been refuted time and time again, spamming the same tiresome list of links.

One more time:

Are you suggesting that not supporting McCain, for example, equates to support for Dean or Gore?

62 posted on 01/29/2006 7:46:25 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: FairOpinion; Admin Moderator

You have posted these same or similar allegations, along with the same list of links, over and over again. Many of those posts were met with sincere replies, yet those replies went largely unanswered or were met with more slurs and ad hominem attacks against conservatives. Calling those who opposed Prop 76 (something the majority of Republicans opposed) democrats or liberals or traitors to the party does little to advance conservatism, or republicanism for that matter.

Many of your posts were answered with sincere replies, explaining specific *conservative* reasons for voting against certain ballot measures.

Below are links to your posts, containing the same tiresome list. I believe that FR needs to improve their enforcement of SPAM, because at this point that is how I categorize it.

01/29/2006 6:04:58 PM PST http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1567429/posts?page=51#51
01/28/2006 11:42:27 AM PST http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1566661/posts?page=27#27
01/22/2006 12:31:54 PM PST http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1557792/posts?page=1038#1038
01/18/2006 9:20:13 PM PST http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1560757/posts?page=25#25
01/14/2006 10:21:34 PM PST http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1558353/posts?page=27#27
12/29/2005 8:52:49 PM PST http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1548437/posts?page=76#76
11/07/2005 7:31:14 PM PST http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1517775/posts?page=2#2
11/07/2005 7:17:03 PM PST http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1517767/posts?page=2#2
11/05/2005 1:58:30 PM PST http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1516427/posts?page=5#5
11/05/2005 1:51:07 PM PST http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1516427/posts?page=3#3
11/01/2005 6:44:33 PM PST http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1513769/posts?page=5#5
10/31/2005 11:15:46 PM PST http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1513120/posts?page=12#12
10/31/2005 8:57:06 PM PST http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1513045/posts?page=12#12
10/31/2005 8:12:49 PM PST • http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1513045/posts?page=8#8
10/31/2005 7:52:52 PM PST http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1513053/posts?page=2#2
10/29/2005 5:48:13 PM PDT http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1511120/posts?page=37#37
10/29/2005 5:31:39 PM PDT • http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1511120/posts?page=35#35
10/29/2005 5:27:42 PM PDT http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1511120/posts?page=33#33
10/29/2005 5:18:55 PM PDT http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1511120/posts?page=31#31
10/29/2005 4:32:12 PM PDT http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1511120/posts?page=23#23
10/29/2005 4:21:41 PM PDT • http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1511120/posts?page=21#21
10/29/2005 4:19:07 PM PDT http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1511120/posts?page=20#20
10/29/2005 4:04:52 PM PDT • http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1511775/posts?page=3#3
10/28/2005 7:08:41 PM PDT http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1511128/posts?page=14#14
10/24/2005 9:38:09 PM PDT http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1508600/posts?page=44#44
10/24/2005 9:16:04 PM PDT http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1508600/posts?page=36#36
10/24/2005 6:58:50 PM PDT http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1508427/posts?page=8#8
10/22/2005 4:24:07 PM PDT • http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1506772/posts?page=44#44
10/16/2005 8:24:40 PM PDT http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1503460/posts?page=14#14
10/16/2005 5:50:57 PM PDT http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1503116/posts?page=84#84
10/16/2005 4:17:00 PM PDT http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1503333/posts?page=10#10
10/16/2005 4:14:18 PM PDT http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1503460/posts?page=9#9
10/16/2005 12:57:12 AM PDT http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1503116/posts?page=75#75


64 posted on 01/29/2006 8:03:30 PM PST by calcowgirl
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