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KFI's Bill Handel squares off with CAIR over offending them
The Drudge Report ^ | 1/29/06 | Drudge

Posted on 01/30/2006 7:47:16 AM PST by Yaelle

LOS ANGELES RADIO STATION SQUARES-OFF WITH MUSLIM GROUP Mon Jan 30 2006 10:10:49 ET

Los Angeles's top talkradio station is under fire from a Muslim civil liberties group because of comments made earlier this month by morning man Bill Handel. The Council on American-Islamic Relations has demanded an apology from Handel for making fun of a stampede that killed hundreds of Muslims during an annual pilgrimage.

But the station and Handel are set to fire back, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned.

Handel will apologize IF the Council on American-Islamic Relations:

1) Decries all acts of terror (described specifically, not generally)

2) Agrees that Israel is a sovereign nation with the right to defensible borders

3) CAIR has no ties of any sort, financially or otherwise, to any terror orgs or individiuals.

MANAGEMENT STATEMENT

KFI-AM does not condone making light of the deaths of people engaged in religious observances. We regret that listeners found the comments of one of our on-air hosts to be insensitive. KFI does not censor its hosts, nor does it tell them what to say or not to say. KFI is a strong and passionate believer in 1st amendment rights and that is at the very core of this radio station.

Developing...


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KEYWORDS: billhandel; cair; free; hajj; handel; islam; kfi; mecca; muslim; salamalmarayati; speech; talkradio; terrorism
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You go, Bill.

He admits to being an equal opportunity offender.

The offensive skit included one of his show guys doing an Arab traffic helicopter reporter over the "stampede" at the Hajj pilgrimage. (CAIR was also offended over the word "stampede.")

1 posted on 01/30/2006 7:47:18 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle

Handel is pretty sharp. I may have to tune into this one, as he will likely hammer those knuckleheads.


2 posted on 01/30/2006 7:48:44 AM PST by raptor29
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To: Yaelle

CAIR doesn't have anything to do but be offended. Just ask them!


3 posted on 01/30/2006 7:49:11 AM PST by Sunshine Sister
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To: Yaelle

I have a love/hate relationship with Handel. In contrast to CAIR which is hate/hate. They can teach Bill Clinton a thing or two about doublespeak!


4 posted on 01/30/2006 7:50:36 AM PST by rom
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To: Yaelle

I do think those comments were in bad taste. Laughing about individuals dying while on a holy (to them) pilgrimmage is not exactly my idea of humor. There is enough in Islam to legitimately make fun of, and war against, that we don't need to waste time with this kind of crap.


5 posted on 01/30/2006 7:51:40 AM PST by LS
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To: Man50D; Rebelbase; Mark Felton; tkathy; Publius6961

Ping to Bill Handel of KFI fighting back against CAIR.


6 posted on 01/30/2006 7:53:17 AM PST by Yaelle (in their effort not to demonize humans, Spielberg and Kushner end up humanizing demons)
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To: Yaelle
The offensive skit included one of his show guys doing an Arab traffic helicopter reporter over the "stampede" at the Hajj pilgrimage. (CAIR was also offended over the word "stampede.")

Oh,.....my,.....God!....ROTHFLMAO!!!!!!

I wish I could have heard this....does anyone know how many accidents occurred on the L.A. highways simultaneously with the skit?

7 posted on 01/30/2006 7:53:42 AM PST by thingumbob (Democracy is the best defense against terrorist/communist thugs!)
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To: Yaelle
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Bill Handle KFI radio Los Angeles
8 posted on 01/30/2006 7:54:18 AM PST by Old Seadog (Inside every old person is a young person saying "WTF happened?".)
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To: Yaelle
I've been out of the KFI broadcast area for a few years. Does he still bill his show as "Handel yourself in the morning?"
9 posted on 01/30/2006 7:54:57 AM PST by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: LS

Anyone who listens to Handel will be offended eventually, because that is what he does best. His approach to the law is hilarious, and his program consists of satire at its best.
If CAIR took him seriously, they are more stupid than previously thought.


10 posted on 01/30/2006 7:55:12 AM PST by TommyDale
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To: Yaelle

"(CAIR was also offended over the word "stampede.")"

Pigs don't stampede!


11 posted on 01/30/2006 7:57:16 AM PST by lawdude (LIEberals/socialists make up facts and history as they go!)
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To: Old Seadog

That's not Bill Handle...Bill Handle is REALLY FAT, isn't he?


12 posted on 01/30/2006 7:57:21 AM PST by Hildy (The only difference between a rut and a grave is the depth)
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To: Yaelle

Compare KFI's decision to take a stand against CAIR to WMAL's spinelessness last July. KFI rocks! And Handel is right on with his three conditions for an apology!


13 posted on 01/30/2006 7:58:40 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: Yaelle

Here;s the link to KFI's stream.

http://ccri.eonstreams.com/ccri_ca_losangeles_kfi_am.asf


14 posted on 01/30/2006 7:58:50 AM PST by Cat loving Texan
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To: LS
Handel makes his living from being in bad taste. He really does offend all around pretty equally. He makes off-color remarks about Jews (his own religion), blacks, Arabs, Hispanics (he was born in S. America), and he rips his wife a new one almost daily. But all his remarks are very superficial. In life he is a very generous and loving guy with great morals.

He is basically conservative with a few liberal ideas thrown in (national health care and gay marriage). He is a very hard worker with several full-time jobs, and he won the local Marconi this last year. He's obnoxious but has great in-depth reporting on stories that really matter. I don't always listen to him but I'm never sorry when I do. I've met him and we had a great conversation.

15 posted on 01/30/2006 8:00:00 AM PST by Yaelle (in their effort not to demonize humans, Spielberg and Kushner end up humanizing demons)
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To: Hildy

He got one of the surgeries and now he's skinny. Go figure.


16 posted on 01/30/2006 8:00:21 AM PST by oldleft
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To: Old Seadog

Yeah, Bill looks fantastic. He used to be a round kugel when he had his TV show. He probably lost one hundred pounds after having that gastric surgery.


17 posted on 01/30/2006 8:01:23 AM PST by Yaelle (in their effort not to demonize humans, Spielberg and Kushner end up humanizing demons)
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To: Hildy
That's not Bill Handle...Bill Handle is REALLY FAT, isn't he?

See post 17. He looks great now, very handsome!!

18 posted on 01/30/2006 8:02:16 AM PST by Yaelle (in their effort not to demonize humans, Spielberg and Kushner end up humanizing demons)
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To: oldleft

Wow...the surgery.. That gastric bypass is something, isn't it? But look at Randy Jackson from American Idol...he put it all back on in less than a year!!!! There's another surgery where they bypass the thing that absorbs fat. So you can eat all you want and not gain weight? Doesn't that sound great....the only downside is you have to take an enormous amount of supplements as your body does not absorb the amount of vitamins and minerals and it needs. But really, for some people, it's a dream come true!


19 posted on 01/30/2006 8:07:13 AM PST by Hildy (The only difference between a rut and a grave is the depth)
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To: Yaelle

Who, exactly, designated CAIR as the official spokesman of Muslims in America?

I mean, besides the NYT and their MSM allies.


20 posted on 01/30/2006 8:08:07 AM PST by Maceman (Fake but accurate -- and now double-sourced)
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To: Yaelle

You have to admit he's an acquired taste. Some may find him...obnoxious.


21 posted on 01/30/2006 8:08:20 AM PST by Hildy (The only difference between a rut and a grave is the depth)
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To: ElkGroveDan
Does he still bill his show as "Handel yourself in the morning?"

LOL, I had forgotten he used to do that! No, he hasn't done that in years. It was kind of funny, though.

I think what impressed me the most about Bill was on 9/11. Rush wasn't due to be on that day because he was flying to an event somewhere, but after the planes hit, Rush WOULD HAVE gone on but for the fact that his plane was grounded at some weird airport where he had to literally take a cab for hours back to his studio.

The only major unaffected station was the L.A. flagship KFI, where Bill Handel had been on for 4 straight hours already doing a FANTASTIC and thorough coverage of the events. They put him on Rush. He did a MARVELOUS job, and it's not like anyone can rehearse or do show prep for 9/11. He did amazing reporting and in-depth backgrounds and got Rush on the air from his cell at one point. It was an award-deserving effort and I couldn't imagine anyone else doing that well when the chips weren't just down, they were exploded into dust.

22 posted on 01/30/2006 8:08:40 AM PST by Yaelle (in their effort not to demonize humans, Spielberg and Kushner end up humanizing demons)
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To: Cat loving Texan; All

Give the link in post 14 a listen-to. I heard it live. Way to go, Bill.


23 posted on 01/30/2006 8:09:33 AM PST by Yaelle (in their effort not to demonize humans, Spielberg and Kushner end up humanizing demons)
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To: Yaelle

here's to thread synergy:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1567892/posts


24 posted on 01/30/2006 8:09:35 AM PST by VOA
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To: TommyDale
Anyone who listens to Handel will be offended eventually, because that is what he does best. His approach to the law is hilarious, and his program consists of satire at its best.

Is he the guy with the show, "Handel on the law"? We get it syndicated here in NC. Pretty funny.

25 posted on 01/30/2006 8:10:19 AM PST by TC Rider (The United States Constitution 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: Hildy

He is an acquired taste. We both grew up Jewish in the San Fernando Valley (but he's a lot older, LOL!) so I am used to his style, but even I often listen to Doug McIntyre instead in those wee hours. I can handle Bill's obnoxiousness at times and even sometimes am in the mood for it, and sometimes it seems his soul is jollier than Doug's even if he's louder on air. Both shows have made me laugh myself awake on occasion.


26 posted on 01/30/2006 8:12:57 AM PST by Yaelle (in their effort not to demonize humans, Spielberg and Kushner end up humanizing demons)
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To: Yaelle

I like this guy already :-)


27 posted on 01/30/2006 8:13:09 AM PST by American in Singapore (Liberals: They even lie in their diaries)
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To: Yaelle
Glad to see someone actually standing his ground against cAIR. There is no way cair will comply with what he has proposed though. They may as well asked for cair to admit that islam is a false religion based on the destruction of civilization.

He still deserves an A+ for his efforts.
28 posted on 01/30/2006 8:16:00 AM PST by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: VOA
here's to thread synergy:

Hey, while my post seems to be much later, I don't understand why when I searched for CAIR and KFI nothing came up!

29 posted on 01/30/2006 8:16:45 AM PST by Yaelle (in their effort not to demonize humans, Spielberg and Kushner end up humanizing demons)
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To: TC Rider

That's the guy! I sometimes laugh so hard I nearly fall out of my chair.


30 posted on 01/30/2006 8:32:32 AM PST by TommyDale
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To: Yaelle

Remember Michael Graham.
CAIR needs to routinely discredited.


31 posted on 01/30/2006 8:33:29 AM PST by nerdwithamachinegun (All generalizations are wrong.)
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To: Yaelle
Handel just read an apology to the people he's offended on today's show. A preemptive strike, I'd imagine.
32 posted on 01/30/2006 9:01:35 AM PST by Rick Deckard
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To: Yaelle
Hey, while my post seems to be much later, I don't understand why
when I searched for CAIR and KFI nothing came up!


Not to worry...Your search was fine; somebody just hadn't
yet got around to sticking some keywords on that other thread.
I added them onto the other thread, then soon after found yours.
33 posted on 01/30/2006 9:30:38 AM PST by VOA
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To: LS

"I do think those comments were in bad taste. Laughing about individuals dying while on a holy (to them) pilgrimmage is not exactly my idea of humor. There is enough in Islam to legitimately make fun of, and war against, that we don't need to waste time with this kind of crap."

Mocking muslims self-destructing during a Lemming-esque STAMPEDE is deserved no matter the "bad taste". Let's focus on reality and the truth of the matter, and not on delusional and politically-correct retractions serving terrorist muslims. Muslim/Islamics are dangerously weird, truth is...


34 posted on 01/30/2006 9:33:45 AM PST by purpleland (Elegy 9/11/01 Vigilance and Valor! Socialism is the Opiate of Academia)
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To: TommyDale

Never, never, never underestimate the stupidity of an Arab. They have been marrying their relatives for many generations. Ironically, the wealthier one sufffered more since this was a mechanism to concerve wealth. The genetic consequences are walking around with rags on their heads right now.

Google the genetic analysis article about the Saudi's if you have any questions.

Summary: Arabs don't just feel inferior - some are.


35 posted on 01/30/2006 9:51:31 AM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon Liberty, it is essential to examine principle)
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To: GladesGuru
Never, never, never underestimate the stupidity of an Arab.
They have been marrying their relatives for many generations.


I do thank them for making me feel much better about being from Oklahoma...
36 posted on 01/30/2006 10:08:06 AM PST by VOA
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To: Yaelle

Just saying, if you make jokes about religious pilgrims, say, dying when a bridge collapses, you better expect some arrows, and I won't feel sorry for ya.


37 posted on 01/30/2006 10:14:46 AM PST by LS
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To: purpleland

Huh? So if a bunch of CHRISTIAN pilgrims are on a bridge when it collapses it's funny? Or only funny if it's Muslims? Pretty shallow thinking.


38 posted on 01/30/2006 10:17:45 AM PST by LS
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To: Yaelle

I'm surprised the ACLU hasn't wrapped its tentacles around this one.


39 posted on 01/30/2006 4:44:24 PM PST by Man50D
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To: Yaelle

Uh--I don't think cair is THAT offended that it would comply.


40 posted on 01/30/2006 4:46:29 PM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: LS
"Huh? So if a bunch of CHRISTIAN pilgrims are on a bridge when it collapses it's funny? Or only funny if it's Muslims? Pretty shallow thinking."

Yep! I'm a "shallow" free thinking son of a bitch with a distinct perverted sense of humour.
41 posted on 01/30/2006 4:54:38 PM PST by purpleland (Elegy 9/11/01 Vigilance and Valor! Socialism is the Opiate of Academia)
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To: LS

What I wrote: "Mocking muslims' self-destructing during a Lemming-esque STAMPEDE is deserved no matter the "bad taste". Let's focus on reality and the truth of the matter, and not on delusional and politically-correct retractions serving terrorist muslims. Muslim/Islamics are dangerously weird, truth is..."

You wrote: "Huh? So if a bunch of CHRISTIAN pilgrims are on a bridge when it collapses it's funny? Or only funny if it's Muslims? Pretty shallow thinking."

My operative word is "weird" not "funny."


42 posted on 01/30/2006 5:03:03 PM PST by purpleland (Elegy 9/11/01 Vigilance and Valor! Socialism is the Opiate of Academia)
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To: Yaelle
Heads up! He is on John and Ken's show right now talking about it! www.kfi640.com
43 posted on 01/30/2006 5:25:04 PM PST by Yaelle (in their effort not to demonize humans, Spielberg and Kushner end up humanizing demons)
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To: Old Seadog

He sure is outspoken. Could it be his Latino heritage?


44 posted on 01/30/2006 5:27:21 PM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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To: Yaelle

Where can I download the audio of this "Hajj report"?


45 posted on 01/30/2006 5:28:07 PM PST by Alouette (Pray for Israel: Psalms of the Day: 1-9.)
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To: Yaelle

ping for later


46 posted on 01/30/2006 5:35:47 PM PST by RIGHT IN LAS VEGAS
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To: Yaelle
Here is an audio link to Bill's terms for apology.

Audio here

47 posted on 01/30/2006 7:19:28 PM PST by RIGHT IN LAS VEGAS
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To: RIGHT IN LAS VEGAS
ON THE NET...

DANIEL PIPES.org - Weblog: "CAIR's LEGAL TRIBULATIONS"

KFI640.com: "HandelCAIRresponse"  (mp3) (January 30, 2006)

WorldNetDaily.com: "SCHOOL ALLOWS MUSLIMS TO PRAY  Reverses policy after confrontation with CAIR" (January 26, 2006)

JIHAD WATCH.org (AP): "CAIR, ACLU SUE TO STOP DOMESTIC SPYING PROGRAM" (ARTICLE SNIPPET:  "The Detroit suit, which also names the NSA, was filed by the ACLU, the Council on American-Islamic Relations, Greenpeace and several individuals.") (January 17, 2006)
WorldNetDaily.com: "CAIR ISSUES U.S. 'TRAVEL ADVISORY'" (December 21, 2005)

JIHAD WATCH.org (AMERICANS AGAINST HATE.com): "CAIR-FL SPOKESMAN SAYS 'NOTHING IMMORAL' ABOUT ISLAMIC JIHAD" (December 13, 2005)

JIHAD WATCH.org: "KAUFMAN AND EPSTEIN: CAIR HOTEL HELL" (December 2, 2005)

JIHAD WATCH.org: "D.C. WATSON: DOUBLE-CROSS" (November 14, 2005)

CNS NEWS.com: "CAIR CALLS FOR CALM IN FRANCE" by Melanie Hunter (November 8, 2005)

JIHAD WATCH.org: "THE LIES ESCALATE" (November 13, 2005)

JIHAD WATCH.org: "CAIR DEFAMES ME AGAIN" (November 9, 2005)

JIHAD WATCH.org: "CAIR GOES AFTER ME" (November 8, 2005)

DANIEL PIPES.org - Weblog: "CAIR ACCEPTED AS 'MAINSTREAM'" (January 21, 2004) (UPDATED: October 25, 2005)

CNS NEWS.com: "CONGRESS URGED TO RECOGNIZE THE BEGINNING OF RAMADAN" (September 26, 2005)

FrontPageMagazine.com: "WHOSE SIDE IS CAIR ON?" by Andrew Whitehead (September 21, 2005)

JIHAD WATCH.org - DHIMMI WATCH: "DC Watson: CAIR: TRIVIALIZING 9/11 FOR THE SAKE OF ISLAM?" (September 18, 2005)

DanielPipes.org (FrontPageMagazine.com): "WHY CORPORATIONS FUND RADICAL ISLAM" by Daniel Pipes (September 2, 2005)

JIHAD WATCH.org: "MPAC, CAIR, ISNA FEEL EXCLUDED FROM THE STRUGGLE AGAINST TERRORISM" (August 30, 2005)

MichNews.com: "ACLU ALLIANCE WITH CAIR?" -Column by Sher Zieve (August 26, 2005)

CNS NEWS.com: "CAIR HAILS FIRING OF MICHAEL GRAHAM" by Randy Hall (August 22, 2005)

TOWNHALL.com: "CAIR 1, FREE SPEECH 0" -Column by Joel Mowbray (August 22, 2005)

TOWNHALL.com: "WELL, THEY GOT ME..." -Column by Michael Graham (August 22, 2005)

JIHAD WATCH.org (IndyStar): "CAIR, CACLU SUE GOV'T OVER BORDER SCRUTINY" (April 24, 2005)

DanielPipes.org - Weblog: "CAIR NAMED AS A DEFENDANT IN 9/11 TERROR LAWSUIT" (December 30, 2004) (NOTE: SEE AUGUST 15, 2005 UPDATE)

FrontPageMagazine.com: "CAIR FOUNDED BY 'ISLAMIST TERRORISTS'?" by Daniel Pipes and Sharon Chadha (July 28, 2005)

TheCounterterrorism Blog: "WALID PHARES: CAIR MUST CONDEMN AL QAIDA AND JIHADISM.." (July 28, 2005)

AMERICAN DAILY.com: "CAIR DISLIKES FREE SPEECH ON RADIO" by Pete Fisher (July 26, 2005)

WorldNetDaily.com: "CAIR TO GOP: REPUDIATE TANCREDO Upset by radio discussion about bombing Mecca" (July 22, 2005)

TOWNHALL.com: "THE MUSLIM HATE CRIME THAT WASN'T" -Column by Michelle Malkin (July 6, 2005)

FRONTPAGE MAGAZINE.com: "CAIRing for Sami Al-Arian" by Joe Kaufman (June 22, 2005)

CNS NEWS.com: "ISLAMIC GROUP CALLS FOR USE OF KORAN TO TAKE OATH" by Melanie Hunter (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "An Islamic civil rights and advocacy group is calling on North Carolina judges to allow people to use the Koran when taking an oath, saying the use of the Bible exclusively represents "an inappropriate state endorsement of religion." The request by the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) comes after Guilford County judges said they would not allow use of Korans in their courtrooms.") (June 21, 2005)
DANIELPIPES.org - Weblog: "SIR IBRAHIM HOOPER AND LORD SALAM AL-MARAYATI?" (June 12, 2005)

JIHAD WATCH.org - Dhimmi Watch (AMERICANS AGAINST HATE): "JEB BUSH SENDS LETTER OF SUPPORT TO CAIR" (June 5, 2005)

ArabNews.com: Washinton: "CAIR OFFERING FREE QUR'AN COPIES TO AMERICANS" by Barbara Ferguson, Arab News (June 4, 2005)

"/littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=16089_NYT_Legitimizes_CAIR_(Again)&only" (June 4, 2005)

WorldNetDaily.com: "CAIR DISTRIBUTES QURAN BANNED AS ANTI-SEMITIC Version Offered for Free as Goodwill Response to Newsweek Fiasco" by Art Moore (June 2, 2005)

DanielPipes.org - Weblog: "MSM CRTICIZES CAIR, CAIR BRAZENS IT OUT" (May 23, 2005)

DANIEL PIPES.org (FrontPageMagazine.com): "CAIR's HATE CRIMES NONSENSE" by Daniel Pipes and Sharon Chadha (May 18, 2005)

CNS NEWS.com: "FREE KORANS FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE" by Susan Jones (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "Over the weekend, CAIR held a conference in the Washington area on the causes and remedies of "Islamophobia and anti-Americanism."") (May 17, 2005)
FRONTPAGE MAGAZINE.com: "CAIR: HOW CLOSE TO TERRORISM?" by Andrew Whitehead and Lee Kaplan (May 11, 2005)

WorldNetDaily.com: "ACLU, CAIR DECRY ANTI-TERROR EFFORTS" April 20, 2005)

WorldNetDaily.com: "CAIR AND TERRORISM" -Commentary by Joseph Farah (April 18, 2005)

FrontPageMag.com: "CAIR's RADICAL NEXUS" by Josh Lefkowitz and Erick Stakelbeck (March 10, 2005)

INTERNET-HAGANAH.US: "WTF, OVER. [WHY IS THE DoD LIST SERVER BEING USED BY CAIR?]" (March 9, 2005)

DanielPipes.org - Weblog: "CAIR NAMED AS A DEFENDANT IN 9/11 TERROR LAWSUIT" (December 30, 2004)

WorldNetDaily.com: "SCHOOLS TO OBSERVE RAMADAN HOLIDAY?" (December 16, 2004)

48 posted on 01/30/2006 7:53:52 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Yaelle

“Moral cowardice that keeps us from speaking our minds is as dangerous to this country as irresponsible talk. The right way is not always the popular and easy way. Standing for right when it is unpopular is a true test of moral character.” Margaret Chase Smith

Give them hell Bill.


49 posted on 01/30/2006 7:56:25 PM PST by Patriot Hooligan ("God have mercy on my enemies because I won't." General George S. Patton)
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To: LS
So if a bunch of CHRISTIAN pilgrims are on a bridge when it collapses it's funny? Or only funny if it's Muslims?

Only if it's Moos. Because that level of stupidity is impressively and massively funny. And even funnier - they do it every damn year!

50 posted on 01/30/2006 8:00:58 PM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government "job" attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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