Posted on 01/31/2006 2:23:59 AM PST by freepatriot32
They sure like to drink in Michigan. Nothing else to do during the winter time other than drink alcohol and play that stupid game Euchre
chugging shots of Jagermeister liqueur...and the way you can ascertain what they were really drinking from website photos is .... ???
I try to remember to do that as well, though I do sometimes forget. In a typical thread, FReepers have covered the salient points in the first 20 posts, often the first 5 or 10.
Not at all...the condition of the probation was that they NOT DRINK. If the web site had only been obscene messages to the judge, nothing could/would have been done. BUT they were stupid (again) and displayed evidence for all to see that they had disobeyed the conditions for probation by drinking!
They deserved to have their probation revoked.
That would have been an appropriate question for a defense attorney to pose, but apparently the lush in question admitted that the photos were genuine and that she had a problem.
She might as well have stuck the photos on a light pole outside the courthouse, since the internet is a public place. If she had kept it to herself and among friends, this never would have come up.
Because they were also violating the terms of a sentence he imposed.
With parents like this no wonder you got kids like this
Tell them to become judges so they can do it on a daily basis.
Or lawyers. I've seen lawyers who should have been jailed for "dissing" the judge.
They got nothing..Every defendant talks about the judge in their cases..Nobody said they were smart
America's future leaders ain't too bright....
These pathetic ding-bat mothers should be eternally grateful that this judge may have saved their daughters from an early grave. I'm sure they didn't walk to these binges and were driving drunk. They were sitting ducks for rape or other violence when they were drunk. Shame on parents who don't control their children and then criticize the justice system that finally has to do it for them.
These are the sorts of things that happen in a nanny state where 18 year olds adults can vote, drive motor vehicles, own a firearms, and risk their lives for us as soldiers, police officers, and firefighters, but can't walk into a bar and legally buy a drink. If you want people to act like adults, then start treating them like adults. Sure, young adults also got drunk when the drinking age was 18, but more likely, they were drinking in situations where they could observe the behavior of more responsible adults and where there were older, more experienced drinkers to keep things under control. But when the law forces adults to drink illegally behind closed doors, the situation is ripe for abuse.
Michigan State University is a good place for her. She'll fit right in.
She is an idiot. There's no doubt about that. I'm not going to waste time worrying about her "rights". I was just wondering how a picture --- though worth a thousand words --- can also be worth a sip or a sniff.
She volunteered evidence. I'm no lawyer, but it seems to me that she was going to some lengths to convince people that she was violating her probation. The judge simply took them as she intended them to be taken. She could have still denied they were real, and probably gotten off with contempt, but she didn't deny it.
Well said. I feel it is somewhat hypocritical telling young people we'll treat them like adults when they act like adults... and then deny them adult privelages. I don't mean to infer that it's "adult like" or mature to drink, but I don't believe it's right to be selective.
If we can draft and send an 18 year old to war... to possibly die in defense of our Nation, and kill with our permission, then that person should be allowed to have a beer.
That, and the ever and eternal sobbing of those that assume the law was for "those other guys", as they are being taken to the gallows. ;)
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