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Mich. judge ridiculed on teens' Web site strikes back
http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/ ^ | 1 30 06 | associated press

Posted on 01/31/2006 2:23:59 AM PST by freepatriot32

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To: freepatriot32

They sure like to drink in Michigan. Nothing else to do during the winter time other than drink alcohol and play that stupid game Euchre


21 posted on 01/31/2006 4:13:16 AM PST by MAD-AS-HELL (Put a mirror to the face of the republican party and all you'll see is a Donkey.)
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To: G.Mason
I believe this is more a case of " My kid would not do that " naive parents.
22 posted on 01/31/2006 4:15:23 AM PST by joe fonebone (Woodstock defined the current crop of libs, but who cleaned up the mess they left?)
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To: freepatriot32
chugging shots of Jagermeister liqueur
...and the way you can ascertain what they were really drinking from website photos is .... ???
23 posted on 01/31/2006 4:18:16 AM PST by samtheman
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To: houeto

I try to remember to do that as well, though I do sometimes forget. In a typical thread, FReepers have covered the salient points in the first 20 posts, often the first 5 or 10.


24 posted on 01/31/2006 4:19:27 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: freepatriot32

Not at all...the condition of the probation was that they NOT DRINK. If the web site had only been obscene messages to the judge, nothing could/would have been done. BUT they were stupid (again) and displayed evidence for all to see that they had disobeyed the conditions for probation by drinking!
They deserved to have their probation revoked.


25 posted on 01/31/2006 4:19:31 AM PST by t2buckeye
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To: samtheman
...and the way you can ascertain what they were really drinking from website photos is .... ???

That would have been an appropriate question for a defense attorney to pose, but apparently the lush in question admitted that the photos were genuine and that she had a problem.

She might as well have stuck the photos on a light pole outside the courthouse, since the internet is a public place. If she had kept it to herself and among friends, this never would have come up.

26 posted on 01/31/2006 4:25:30 AM PST by SlowBoat407 (The best stuff happens just before the thread snaps.)
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To: freepatriot32
I agree why wasnt he forced to recuse himself?

Because they were also violating the terms of a sentence he imposed.

27 posted on 01/31/2006 4:26:43 AM PST by dirtboy (My new years resolution is to quit using taglines...)
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To: ThirstyMan

With parents like this no wonder you got kids like this


28 posted on 01/31/2006 4:27:23 AM PST by skaterboy (My candy cane is so yummy and delicious)
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To: happinesswithoutpeace
"They made a mockery of the legal system," Martone told the Detroit Free Press for a story published on Jan. 27. "I had to do something."

Tell them to become judges so they can do it on a daily basis.

Or lawyers. I've seen lawyers who should have been jailed for "dissing" the judge.

29 posted on 01/31/2006 4:28:36 AM PST by Eclectica (Para el inglés, prensa 2.)
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To: freepatriot32

They got nothing..Every defendant talks about the judge in their cases..Nobody said they were smart


30 posted on 01/31/2006 4:29:13 AM PST by skaterboy (My candy cane is so yummy and delicious)
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To: freepatriot32

America's future leaders ain't too bright....


31 posted on 01/31/2006 4:30:31 AM PST by GadareneDemoniac
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To: freepatriot32

These pathetic ding-bat mothers should be eternally grateful that this judge may have saved their daughters from an early grave. I'm sure they didn't walk to these binges and were driving drunk. They were sitting ducks for rape or other violence when they were drunk. Shame on parents who don't control their children and then criticize the justice system that finally has to do it for them.


32 posted on 01/31/2006 4:32:46 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: Shery
There are many kids who die from toxicity from their first drinking binge because of dares, fraternity/sorority parties, etc.

These are the sorts of things that happen in a nanny state where 18 year olds adults can vote, drive motor vehicles, own a firearms, and risk their lives for us as soldiers, police officers, and firefighters, but can't walk into a bar and legally buy a drink. If you want people to act like adults, then start treating them like adults. Sure, young adults also got drunk when the drinking age was 18, but more likely, they were drinking in situations where they could observe the behavior of more responsible adults and where there were older, more experienced drinkers to keep things under control. But when the law forces adults to drink illegally behind closed doors, the situation is ripe for abuse.

33 posted on 01/31/2006 4:33:07 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: MAD-AS-HELL

Michigan State University is a good place for her. She'll fit right in.


34 posted on 01/31/2006 4:36:10 AM PST by LibertarianCandidate
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To: SlowBoat407

She is an idiot. There's no doubt about that. I'm not going to waste time worrying about her "rights". I was just wondering how a picture --- though worth a thousand words --- can also be worth a sip or a sniff.


35 posted on 01/31/2006 4:42:50 AM PST by samtheman
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To: Labyrinthos
"But when the law forces adults to drink illegally behind closed doors, the situation is ripe for abuse."

In days gone by, you have a point. But you forget that today's kids were never taught responsibility or consequence.

We spared the rod and created a bunch of imbeciles who think nothing of thumbing their nose at authority.

We drank at 18. Our mothers made sure we didn't leave the house till we ate. That was in the '60s.

If we got caught underage drinking, we paid the $36.50 fine. AND THEN WE LAID VERY LOW. One does not taunt the system when one is being watched. But then again we were taught consequence.

Kids today are just stupid. And their parents are to blame for that.

These idiots thought they could do whatever the hell they wanted, because their idiot mothers "enabled" them.

They got less than what they deserved.

NO MERCY from this end.
36 posted on 01/31/2006 4:46:26 AM PST by Al Gator (Remember to pillage BEFORE you burn!)
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To: samtheman

She volunteered evidence. I'm no lawyer, but it seems to me that she was going to some lengths to convince people that she was violating her probation. The judge simply took them as she intended them to be taken. She could have still denied they were real, and probably gotten off with contempt, but she didn't deny it.


37 posted on 01/31/2006 4:47:54 AM PST by SlowBoat407 (The best stuff happens just before the thread snaps.)
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To: SALChamps03
I agree, the judge acted in the best interest of these underage drinkers here. At least one of the parents have the right attitude. The rest of the parents are enablers.
38 posted on 01/31/2006 4:48:31 AM PST by tioga (Speaking out from the god-forsaken frozen tundra of the Hildebeast.)
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To: Labyrinthos
"These are the sorts of things that happen in a nanny state where 18 year olds adults can vote, drive motor vehicles, own a firearms, and risk their lives for us as soldiers, police officers, and firefighters, but can't walk into a bar and legally buy a drink."

Well said. I feel it is somewhat hypocritical telling young people we'll treat them like adults when they act like adults... and then deny them adult privelages. I don't mean to infer that it's "adult like" or mature to drink, but I don't believe it's right to be selective.

If we can draft and send an 18 year old to war... to possibly die in defense of our Nation, and kill with our permission, then that person should be allowed to have a beer.

39 posted on 01/31/2006 4:51:35 AM PST by Toadman
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To: joe fonebone
"I believe this is more a case of " My kid would not do that " naive parents."


That, and the ever and eternal sobbing of those that assume the law was for "those other guys", as they are being taken to the gallows. ;)





40 posted on 01/31/2006 4:52:19 AM PST by G.Mason ("I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is to try to please everyone" -- Bill Cosby)
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