Posted on 02/02/2006 7:33:25 AM PST by 11x62
Good point. I was opposed to this when the policy was adopted by the feds during the Clinton Administration. The fees the feds charge are outrageous.
Besides this is supposed to be PUBLIC lands, purchased by, and maintained with public tax money. Basically the law states they can charge those who photograph/film for commercial purposes, but the charge is so steep it would keep most smalltime writers/photograhers from doing so.
I agree, but it probably would never have come up if they hadn't been reckless and created a situation that endangered themselves and their rescuers.
This is the only thing they could find to charge them with, probably.
Is this America?
Remember when the government was shut down and every network went to National Parks and did pieces on how people giving sleigh rides were going to suffer?
Where's their fine?
I wasn't aware that you needed a permit to shoot a movie or tv show on federal land. Interesting. Thing is...if you've ever been around a movie or tv shoot, you know that it can involve a lot of folks, and possibly even some disruption of normal activities. That's why you have to have permits in cities to film professionally.
The only thing worse, for example, than a professional bass tournament on a lake you were planning to fish is a crew filming one of those fishing shows.
It happened to me...once. I was out on my favorite lake, fishing for northern pike, when about 6 boats zoomed up into the area I was fishing. Camera boats, the fishing show host's boat, a support boat, a boat full of nothing but tackle, a security boat, and some random boats doing what, I don't know.
So, I've been fishing the weed edge in this cove for about an hour, when this bunch of yahoos comes roaring in. One of the boats split off from the group and some guy in it tells me they're shooting the "XXXX XXXXXX" show, and I'm going to have to leave the area.
I explained to him that he was on a public lake, and that I had been there long before he and his bunch of cretins blew in. I further explained how he might perform a seemingly impossible sexual act upon himself.
I left anyhow, because it wasn't going to be much fun fishing that cove, but I was really ticked off.
This is why permits are required in many places. I have no idea whether one was required on that lake.
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I can see a problem with allowing a huge film crew filming a movie to tramp over the land while leaving a mess. However, Mr Csonka's show, I would guess, has a very small film crew, maybe one guy. Besides, what the heck is wrong with taking pictures?
Who even knew this was illegal???
Permits? Permits? He don't need no steenkin' permits! (or shouldn't. It IS public land).
I have some experience with film permits. Permits are required when filming for any commercial or non-personal use. Students, non-profits, etc. can often get a film permit free of charge.
When you sign for the permit, you state where you will film and what you will film.
The parks are protecting themselves from liability and limiting the damage to the park that a film crew/set can cause.
I hope he didn't, GASP, do the unthinkable.....use a gas powered snowmobile.
This is the Damnedest thing I've ever heard of.I guess I can see the point of the law, but once again unintended consequences.How could this ever be policed? It makes a criminal of lot's of people.
Makes perfect sense to me. Who knew about Czonkas shows before...and who will know now;-)
Pretty cheap advertising costs...bout 8-9 grand. Not bad at all.
So, if they did not secure permits beforehand, is it legal for average tourists who take beautiful nature photos in national parks to have them sold on sites like Webshots? Does that not become commercial use?
"Besides, what the heck is wrong with taking pictures?"
Because he didn't have the required govt microchip implanted in his forehead.
I'm only barely joking. Just filming is no ones stinking business.
Tramping around with 30 people and 10 vehicles would be much different however.
"pleaded guilty to knowingly conducting work activity in a national forest without obtaining a special use permit."
Ever take your laptop along to do some work on your Yellowstone trip? Scofflaws like that deserve the max!!!
America - Land of the Free, Home of the Brave. Provided you have the right permits, of course.
I knew it. This policy (to charge photographers/film crews) on public lands was adopted during the Clinton Administration years, and I was opposed to it then.
The problem is the fees are outrageous, so a smalltime writer/photographer is basically shut out of doing these on public lands. These photographers/writers generally make up a crew of a few people, and very unlikely to cause any environmental damage. This is part of the package the public got when the USFS, etc., began charging fees for the public to camp on, use, national forests.
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