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Bush faces Congress revolt over spying
Financial Times ^ | Febuary 8 2006

Posted on 02/08/2006 7:39:39 PM PST by jmc1969

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To: wmfights

Congress could modulate this war any way it wished through budget or through amending the UOFR.


21 posted on 02/08/2006 7:50:37 PM PST by drlevy88
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To: MJY1288

So what happened after this, however. En banc hearing by entire court? Other circuits disagree?


22 posted on 02/08/2006 7:51:51 PM PST by drlevy88
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To: drlevy88
Just because murderers get away with it is no reason to abolish laws against murder.

Agreed, but to not have us protected by the Presidents Constitutional powers as CIC is hardly a reason to say "what would Hillary do?" She will do whatever she wants to do, law or no law - we have proof of that. I, for one, believe from what I have read that GWB is using his CIC authority granted by the Constitution.

23 posted on 02/08/2006 7:52:00 PM PST by p23185
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To: jmc1969
I'm presuming this is wishful thinking on part of the MSM.

Any pubbie who would actually posture like this needs to have their heads examined.

24 posted on 02/08/2006 7:52:08 PM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: p23185

Usually presidents who are that stupid get impeached or worse.


25 posted on 02/08/2006 7:52:47 PM PST by drlevy88
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To: jmc1969
Congressional Republicans are threatening to force a legal showdown...

I don't see any Republicans actually mentioned in the article. Just Specter.

26 posted on 02/08/2006 7:52:56 PM PST by Athwart
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To: jmc1969

Arlen wants to step up and get smacked down so be it. FISA as they want to use it for the NSA program is an unconstitutional limit of the executives branch's core power, as decided by the courts, by the legislative branch. So yeah Arlen force a show down which when after you expose the details you get shown to be the one acting in an unconstitutional way, that will look great on your resume.


27 posted on 02/08/2006 7:53:12 PM PST by zaggs
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To: drlevy88
Well you answered that question - Toon got impeached, and yes he was stupid as they come. BUT politically very astute. Lost his lawyering license, and if the Repubs had a spine he should have been removed for all the illegal things he conducted while in office. Monica was the least of it.
28 posted on 02/08/2006 7:54:54 PM PST by p23185
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To: jmc1969

Republican revolt? Dream on losers.... we stand by our president and take on our phony congressmen.


29 posted on 02/08/2006 7:55:01 PM PST by Porterville (They took our jobs!!! Der dook er jibs!!! Deer took er jabs!!!)
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To: jmc1969
These stupid Senators are a bunch of posturing sycophants.

They know damn well the President has the power to listen to international calls into and out of the US in a time of war -- with or with FISA approval

30 posted on 02/08/2006 7:55:33 PM PST by demlosers (Kerry: "Impeach Bush, filibuster Alito, withdraw from Iraq, send U235 to Iran, elect me President!")
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To: Howlin

isn't janice rogers brown on that court now?


31 posted on 02/08/2006 7:55:59 PM PST by oceanview
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To: jmc1969

Oh, BS.


32 posted on 02/08/2006 7:56:06 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: demlosers
"or with" = >or without
33 posted on 02/08/2006 7:56:54 PM PST by demlosers (Kerry: "Impeach Bush, filibuster Alito, withdraw from Iraq, send U235 to Iran, elect me President!")
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To: wmfights

The President has the power under the Constitution.
Why should Specter get a ruling when the President already has he power to protect us under the Constitition? Specter must be in bed with the other Demorats on the Committee.


34 posted on 02/08/2006 7:57:06 PM PST by Revererdrv
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To: MJY1288; Howlin
Great find Howlin, That should be used in the next hearing when Russ Feingold starts calling this program illegal.

Neither of you actually read that ruling, did you?

35 posted on 02/08/2006 7:57:46 PM PST by AntiGuv
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To: Keith in Iowa
Bring it on Arlen...ya RINO putz

My thoughts exactly.

Idiot.... (and I'm speaking to Arlen).

36 posted on 02/08/2006 7:58:15 PM PST by proud American in Canada
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To: jmc1969

This bozo just doesn't get it!

Not only doesn't Congress have the power to infringe on the executives authority to conduct warrantless foreign intelligence gathering, they also don't have the power to "require" the President to go before any court to seek a ruling on any matter. It's none of their damn business!

Does Darlin' Arlen have to be taken to the woodshed and re-taught the fundamentals of the separation of powers doctrine? Or does he just think that mob rule by Congress is above the law?

37 posted on 02/08/2006 7:58:21 PM PST by Boot Hill ("...and Joshua went unto him and said: art thou for us, or for our adversaries?")
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To: Howlin

Thanks for that info re: appeals court.


38 posted on 02/08/2006 7:58:23 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: drlevy88

That is a lousy arguement...."what if Hillary is elected, do we want her to have same power"..

First of all...IF she is elected, as POTUS/CIC, she will have the power..

Second..even if we wanted to deny her the power, you are assuming that she would obey the law or rule...which would be the FIRST time.

Third...IF we are in the same situation terror wise..and if this country is STUPID enough to elect her...then she has the responsibility to keep us safe...so SURE she should have the same right, and she BETTER do it.


39 posted on 02/08/2006 7:59:06 PM PST by Txsleuth (l drink tea, not kool-aid.)
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To: jmc1969

Rinos our very own version of the Quislings and this proves it.


40 posted on 02/08/2006 7:59:19 PM PST by Steveone (Liberalism is a brain tumor!)
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