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Playboy sparks Indonesia porn row - photos included
bbc ^ | 7 February 2006 | Rachel Harvey

Posted on 02/09/2006 12:31:08 PM PST by dennisw

A man reads an Indonesian tabloid with scantily-dressed women pictured on the cover
New laws would make it an offence to show 'sensual body parts'
(Did porn turn this guy cross eyed?)

 

Indonesian Muslim protesters shout slogans during an anti-pornography rally in Jakarta
The issue is where to draw the line on decency

  A Muslim protester displays a defaced Playboy logo during an anti-pornography rally in Jakarta

Indonesian Muslims are angered by plans for a local edition of Playboy

Playboy sparks Indonesia porn row
By Rachel Harvey
BBC News, Jakarta


Indonesia, home to the world's largest Muslim population, is caught up in a growing debate about pornography.

News that the raunchy Playboy magazine has signed a deal to produce a local edition has fuelled the controversy.

Parliament is expected to pass a new anti-pornography bill by the middle of this year but the draft legislation is proving divisive.

A series of demonstrations has taken place in the capital, Jakarta, in support of the tightening of the laws.

The head of the parliamentary committee which drafted the new legislation, Balkan Kaplale, said Indonesia was in a state of moral decline. "These are Indonesian magazines," Mr Kaplale said, spreading a selection of pornographic tabloids across the table.

"It is terrible, our poor country. We are a religious people but now Indonesia is third worst in the world for porn after Scandinavia and Russia.

"It is so easily available and it is going unchecked. That is why we need this law," he said.

Booming trade

In a narrow, busy alleyway in Jakarta's Chinatown, there are stalls selling pirated DVDs.

In front of most of the stalls there is a cardboard box where the pornographic films are kept.

The DVDs are openly displayed - it is pretty graphic stuff.

Few people in Indonesia would argue against the need to control the sale of such material. And yet the proposed anti-pornography bill has come up against strong opposition.

The draft document includes articles which would make it an offence to show what it calls sensual body parts, including the navel, hips and thighs.

Those found guilty of breaking the law could face a two-year jail sentence.

Drawing the line

Husna Mulya, a women's rights activist, said the anti-pornography law had been hijacked by groups pushing a hardline conservative agenda.

"The people behind this are using religious values to make their argument, especially Muslim groups. It is not stated in the bill, but the standard being used is the standard of Sharia law.

"They say people are not dressing in line with Indonesian culture. But the fashion in Indonesia now is to wear trousers that are tight around the hips, and even traditional clothes are often designed to show off a woman's breasts," she said.

And it is not just women who are worried.

The artistic lobby is up in arms as well. The draft bill would make it illegal to record anything which portrays erotic dancing, or kissing on the lips. It would mean ground-breaking Indonesian films such as Arisan would be banned.

Arisan is a humorous take on the life of wealthy, 30-something Jakartans which addresses traditionally taboo subjects like adultery and homosexuality.

The screenplay was written by one of Indonesia's leading film critics, Joko Anwar.

He said the anti-pornography bill was a dangerous and unnecessary form of artistic censorship that would hamper filmmakers' creativity.

"We are not going to make some very graphic sexual scenes because we know that it wouldn't be accepted by an Indonesian audience.

"We already have that filter ourselves so I don't think it needs to be put into law. It's not democracy. It's not about pornography, it's your freedom to express yourself," he said.

This is the crux of the current argument. How far should such freedoms be extended?

The consensus in parliament is such that the anti-pornography bill will almost certainly be passed.

The question then becomes how it will be interpreted and enforced by a notoriously corrupt legal system.

But it is perhaps an encouraging sign of Indonesia's growing democratic maturity that a piece of draft legislation is being debated in public at all.

 



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KEYWORDS: indonesia; islam; muslims; playboy
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To: montag813
It is so sad to see Asians who have been infected by Islam. It's one thing for the miserable Arabs to be saddled with it--they deserve it. But these poor Asian folks who were just fine with peaceful Buddhism and animist worship, to be forced into filthy Islam is just pathetic.

Muhammad's madness called Islam is a natural fit for deserts and arid rocky places. Lush tropics like Indonesia and Malaysia and Southern Thailand just don't seem right. Plus Islam came there by Arab traders and missionaries. Not by Jihad conquest

41 posted on 02/09/2006 1:18:22 PM PST by dennisw ("What one man can do another can do" - The Edge)
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To: Shaun_MD

I'd only buy it for the articles.


42 posted on 02/09/2006 1:19:05 PM PST by phil1750 (Love like you've never been hurt;Dance like nobody's watching;PRAY like it's your last prayer)
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To: phil1750

Um, me too. Yeah thats it. Love those articles.


43 posted on 02/09/2006 1:20:49 PM PST by Shaun_MD (Peace isn't pretty and freedom isn't free)
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To: dennisw

That "photos included" in the headline is soooo misleading.


44 posted on 02/09/2006 1:22:14 PM PST by rattrap
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To: dennisw

I admire their stand.


45 posted on 02/09/2006 1:23:16 PM PST by SteveMcKing
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To: dennisw

46 posted on 02/09/2006 1:38:17 PM PST by reagan_fanatic (Darwinism is a belief in the meaninglessness of existence - R. Kirk)
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To: Shaun_MD; SlowBoat407
Steel rods of chastisement?

Yeah. And if they're really pissed, they'll bring the Holy Handgrenade of Antioch.

47 posted on 02/09/2006 1:41:48 PM PST by Erasmus (One fine day, sad to say, we'l all be Democrat voters.)
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To: dennisw

Maybe Gallery can go over there. Instead of the Girl Next Door it could be the Jihadist Next Door contest.


48 posted on 02/09/2006 1:44:19 PM PST by JackDanielsOldNo7 (If it wasn't for marriage, I would not have this screenname.)
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To: dennisw
I think that our current model of globalization is fatally flawed.

The people in the turd world don't want us or our stuff.

And we are addicted to their cheap labor, and want them to like or at least accept our way of life.

Not happening.

Leave them alone, make our own stuff, build a high fence around the turd world.

Works for me.

49 posted on 02/09/2006 1:46:24 PM PST by Jim Noble (And you know what I'm talkin' 'bout!)
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To: dennisw
I wouldn't mind if the Muzzies attacked Hefner, as long as they don't hurt the playmates. He's so old and senile, it wouldn't matter.
50 posted on 02/09/2006 1:46:25 PM PST by BW2221
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To: dennisw
Amazing that Gilbert & Sullivan forsaw all this more than a century ago....witness the classic line from the Mikado...

"Men come from miles around to see my left elbow...."

51 posted on 02/09/2006 1:47:27 PM PST by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: Shaun_MD
Someone needs to mail them about 300 hustler magazines. We could just sit back and watch them all rip each other to pieces in an insane rage and then spontaneously combust.

Bwahahahahah!!!
52 posted on 02/09/2006 1:47:48 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: BW2221
I wouldn't mind if the Muzzies attacked Hefner, as long as they don't hurt the playmates. He's so old and senile, it wouldn't matter.

From your keyboard to Allah's ears...LOL

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53 posted on 02/09/2006 1:51:41 PM PST by mkjessup (The Shah doesn't look so bad now, eh? But nooo, Jimmah said the Ayatollah was a 'godly' man.)
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To: Shaun_MD
A reference to the device carried by the Taliban Morality Police to punish those who were believed to be having impure thoughts or otherwise breaking the morality code.

There are a few Freepers here who seem to believe it's their divine duty to beat upon those who they find to be not as morally pure as they are.

Hence the FR vice and virtue squad. Consider it an attempt at humorous ridicule of the self righteous if you will...
54 posted on 02/09/2006 1:52:03 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Mohammedism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
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To: montag813
But these poor Asian folks who were just fine with peaceful Buddhism and animist worship, to be forced into filthy Islam is just pathetic.

Funny thing about East Asia, their conversion was mainly through peaceful trade with Muslim merchants, being exposed to Islam, and voluntarily switching. Islam's conquest didn't spread much past India, and they never did get the southern tip.

55 posted on 02/09/2006 1:52:34 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: dennisw
photos included

Damn, tricked me into looking!

57 posted on 02/09/2006 1:54:41 PM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
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To: dennisw

The Girls of Jakarta ?


58 posted on 02/09/2006 2:00:37 PM PST by NCjim (The more I use Windows, the more I love UNIX)
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To: SlowBoat407
What? What'd I say?

Good idea, protest your innocence to the last.

I wuz framed too!
59 posted on 02/09/2006 2:01:56 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Mohammedism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
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To: Dr.Zoidberg
There are a few Freepers here who seem to believe it's their divine duty to beat upon those who they find to be not as morally pure as they are.

Oh, the irony.

60 posted on 02/09/2006 2:03:21 PM PST by Skooz (Chastity prays for me, piety sings............Modesty hides my thighs in her wings......)
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