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Don't Let Your Babies Grow Up to Be Ex-Gay Cowboys (homosexuality is incurable, etc.)
The New York Times ^ | February 10, 2006 | DAN SAVAGE

Posted on 02/10/2006 1:14:33 PM PST by presidio9

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gay cowboys try, as best they can, to quit one another. They marry women, start families. But their wives are crushed when they realize their husbands don't, and can't, ever really love them. "Brokeback Mountain" makes clear that it would have been better for all concerned if Jack and Ennis had lived in a world where they could simply be together.

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Straight audiences are watching and loving "Brokeback Mountain" — that's troubling to evangelical Christians who have invested a decade and millions of dollars promoting the notion that gay men can be converted to heterosexuality, or become "ex-gay." It is, they insist, an ex-gay movement, although I've never met a gay man who was moved to join it.

This "movement" demands more from gay men than simply playing straight. Once a man can really pass as ex-gay — once he's got some Dockers, an expired gym membership and a bad haircut — he's supposed to become, in effect, an exgay missionary, reaching out to the hostile gay tribes in such inhospitable places as Chelsea and West Hollywood.

What should really trouble evangelicals, however, is this: even if every gay man became ex-gay tomorrow, there still wouldn't be an ex-lesbian tomboy out there for every ex-gay cowboy. Instead, millions of straight women would wake up one morning to discover that they had married a Jack or Ennis.

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Sometimes I wonder if evangelicals really believe that gay men can go straight. If they don't think Chad Allen can play straight convincingly for 108 minutes, do they honestly imagine that gay men who aren't actors can play straight for a lifetime? And if anyone reading this believes that gay men can actually become exgay men, I have just one question for you: Would you want your daughter to marry one?

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: brokebackmountain; exgays; homophobechristians; homosexualagenda; liesliesmorelies; nytimes; propaganda
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To: presidio9

I would fear my daughter getting the bug or some other queer infliction. I have done a good job raising my 5 they are more intolerant of queers than I am.

I cannot name one person I personally know that has seen the movie. The closest theatre that would show it is close to 2 hours away.


41 posted on 02/10/2006 1:30:41 PM PST by One Proud Dad
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To: x5452

Oops...got the letters mixed up, I like your interpretation though!


42 posted on 02/10/2006 1:31:06 PM PST by BonnieJ
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To: BonnieJ

Thanks, I'll check it out.


43 posted on 02/10/2006 1:31:23 PM PST by squarebarb
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To: presidio9

The movie is a loser but to hear H'weird and the distributors tell the story the movie is HUGE hit. The lies coming out of H'weird make me sick. Most of the money was made in CA when first released. What's mandatory but not told is that ALL movies for candidacy to the Academy Awards MUST be open in Los Angeles, without exception. In 9 weeks, the movie, according to H'weird, grossed $60 million nationwide. I don't see that as a runaway hit. Compare that movie the Jedi movies or "The Passion of the Christ" and you'll see it's not that big of a moneymaker. H'weird won't survive on that pittance.


44 posted on 02/10/2006 1:32:08 PM PST by lilylangtree
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To: TXBSAFH

Make no mistake as to what is going on here. Christians are being driven to the margins of society. The financial attacks on the Catholic church in court is just the beginning.

Soon it will be a matter of "hate" crime for Chrisitans to talk about sins like sodomy. Law suits launched by the ACLU and others are coming.

Christian churches are being burned in Alabama. NBC, a national over the air network is planning a program on Holy Thursday which makes fun of Christ's suffering and death.

Pat Robertson can't open his mouth without the national press all over his words. Yet they won't cover controversial statements of men like Julian Bond.

Make no mistake where this is going. In fifty years the open practice of Christianty will be dead.


45 posted on 02/10/2006 1:32:52 PM PST by kjo
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To: presidio9
Do you really want to know the truth about Mac owners?

Their tale is told in BrokeMac Mountain!

46 posted on 02/10/2006 1:35:20 PM PST by bygolly
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To: lilylangtree
In 9 weeks, the movie, according to H'weird, grossed $60 million nationwide.

It has made over four times its cost ($14 million). A movie doesn't have to be Star Wars to be financially successful, and this movie has been.

47 posted on 02/10/2006 1:35:34 PM PST by LWalk18
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To: lilylangtree

Below lists a runaway hit:

"Narnia" has grossed more than $637.8 million at the worldwide boxoffice. Internationally, it ranks as Buena Vista's top-grossing live-action release of all time, surpassing "Armageddon" and "Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl" with its gross to date of $359.4 million. The film has grossed $278 million domestically and is the studio's third-highest-grossing live-action film. It is on track to surpass "Pirates' " worldwide gross of $655 million to become Buena Vista's all-time top live-action grosser. The movie also received three Oscar nominations Tuesday.


48 posted on 02/10/2006 1:35:42 PM PST by lilylangtree
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To: presidio9
that's troubling to evangelical Christians who have invested a decade and millions of dollars promoting the notion that gay men can be converted to heterosexuality

This doofus hasn't a clue what evangelicals think. Nor is he even trying. But he is openly lying when he makes the statement that evangelicals have invested a decade and millions of dollars promoting the notion. No! The notion was a gift from all those mothers and fathers who brought us into this world. And it is simply an observtion that all men, as all women, are born with heterosexual biology.

Our money is simply being spent trying to stop liberals like him from scamming the courts into betraying the will of the people by legislating the gay political agenda from the bench.

49 posted on 02/10/2006 1:36:01 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: GSWarrior
>>>>>Doesn't Dan Savage write sex columns in alternative weeklies?

Yes, he is a filthy pervert.

50 posted on 02/10/2006 1:36:08 PM PST by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: GSWarrior
Doesn't Dan Savage write sex columns in alternative weeklies?

I think "Dan Savage" is the stage name for his male stripper act. He comes out wearing animal skins and carries a spear.

51 posted on 02/10/2006 1:36:22 PM PST by capt. norm (Error: Keyboard not attached. Press F1 to continue)
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To: Angus MacGregor
Tell me Dan, why does the average homosexual only live to the rip old of age of 50?

The average is 42 actually. And even that figure may be high, because kids die, and there is no realistic way to sort the bucks from the does before puberty.

52 posted on 02/10/2006 1:36:53 PM PST by presidio9 ("Bird Flu" is the new Y2K Virus -Only without the inconvenient deadline.)
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To: LWalk18

See post #48. "Brokedown" is not a hit. You're believing H'weird hype.


53 posted on 02/10/2006 1:37:54 PM PST by lilylangtree
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To: presidio9
If gay people are right why the great need to authenticate their their lifestyle by pointing out that STRAIGHT people are "seeing this gay movie and loving it"?

Because gay people suffer from real inner turmoil and are painfully aware of how thin their numbers actually are.

Pointing out that straight people love this movie is an effort to play casually straight people off against deliberately straight people.

See?

54 posted on 02/10/2006 1:38:37 PM PST by gaijin
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To: lilylangtree
See post #48. "Brokedown" is not a hit. You're believing H'weird hype.

Using your standards, there are only about 100 movies in the history of cinema which are hits, with everything else being a failure.

55 posted on 02/10/2006 1:39:38 PM PST by LWalk18
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To: kjo

"In fifty years the open practice of Christianty will be dead."

If the current trend is allowed to continue unabated, in fifty years, those who openly practice Christianity will end up dead.


56 posted on 02/10/2006 1:41:51 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: presidio9

I thought they were homosexual, adulterous, promiscuous sheepherders, not cowboys. The sheep should be afraid, very afraid.


57 posted on 02/10/2006 1:42:35 PM PST by hsalaw
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To: GBoettner
I would not want her to marry a guy who had been through this, just because of my fear of her being hurt.

Irrational. You want him to "go on straight" but wouldn't want your own daughter to participate? If everyone else felt that way, where would you find the women for these ex-gay men? Or the man who's gotten sober? Or clean? Or found Jesus? Further, she's going to take a chance of getting hurt anyway by current marital failure statistics.

Seems like Christians would rather homosexuals blink from existence: they can't embrace their homosexuality and while they may become ex-gay they may well not be embraced by the community either? These aren't solutions. Is it any wonder folks struggling with homosexual sensations aren't open about it, struggle with depression and feel shunned by Christian brethren or betrayed by the Christian community?

It's no wonder at all so many embrace the "easy" solution offered by liberalism: belonging to a homosexual ghetto.

58 posted on 02/10/2006 1:43:41 PM PST by newzjunkey (In 2006: Reelect Arnold; Get GOP Elected in CA; Halt W's Amnesty for Illegals. Win in Iraq.)
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To: presidio9
'Straight audiences are watching and loving "Brokeback Mountain"'

Only a NYTimes reporter would say something so completely untrue.

The fact is most straight guys don't know what they are going to see until they are in the theatre. A straight guy will se this movie IMO as a function of whether or not he'll get into his girlfriends pants. A straight guy going to see this movie will register high on the chick meter thus facilitating the posibility of coitus after the flame flick.

It is the only way you'll get the averager Joe Six Pack to see this movie. Other than that, just cut your losses and go to a strip joint!

59 posted on 02/10/2006 1:44:15 PM PST by bubman
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To: SteveMcKing

Looks like one of the Village People.


60 posted on 02/10/2006 1:45:17 PM PST by hsalaw
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