'Gay wedding' ends up in cells (Muslims get something right for once)

News24 (South Africa) ^ | 12 February 2006 | News24

[BW2221]

The libs need to develop rules, like Canasta, regarding trumps. Does Islam trump homosexuality? Feminism? Abortion?

[chinche]

No one has to drive and no one has to have sex. Having an accident while driving has a probability associated with it. Getting infected while sexing has a probability associated with it. You focus on sexing. I focus on driving. You worry about what people do in their beds while I worry about people do in their cars.

[BubbaTheRocketScientist]

Repeated bad driving doesn't lead to the development of new strains of antibiotic-resistant bad drivers who can infect and quite possibly kill unknowing good drivers.

[chinche]

Repeated bad driving doesn't lead to the development of new strains of antibiotic-resistant bad drivers who can infect and quite possibly kill unknowing good drivers

Very good, although we were originally speaking of crimes, not anitbodies. So...think about what you are saying in the context of all human contact, not just sex. In the name of public health, you are making an argument for the regulation and criminalization of all interactions that might spread disease.

[Floratina]

They put them in prison? What the? If they are good citizens and this is the only thing that put them in prison, that is horrible and heartbreaking, IMO. Gotta think there are some really dangerous people running free over there that should be taking up tenancy in those cells instead. Whoa.

[BubbaTheRocketScientist]

In the name of public health, you are making an argument for the regulation and criminalization of all interactions that might spread disease.

No, not "all interactions". Just those which provably have a high likelihood of spreading disease. It's the same general principal as that which allows municipalities to require sewer or septic service in new housing developments. Also the reason why we don't let people self-prescribe antibiotics. And the same principle under which we can forcibly commit and medicate TB patients.

[Floratina]

Interesting. I did not know that.

[chinche]

You being with:

The United States state department had condemned the arrests and called on its close Gulf ally to stop reported plans for a forced hormone treatment on the suspects.

And as usual, State is choosing the wrong position.

And end up with something feeble:

And the same principle under which we can forcibly commit and medicate TB patients.

So, are you saying that these arrests of homosexuals and forced hormone treatment are like the commitment and medication of TB? The State Department is stupidly advocating something against public health? If so, then that’s the end of the conservation.

[BubbaTheRocketScientist]

If so, then that’s the end of the conservation.

I would define the end of conservatism as when "conservatives" think the State department has a legitimate mission to muck about in the internal affairs of other countries. That sort of Wilsonian foreign policy is directly responsible for the sad state of affairs today.

Libertarian at Home, Authoritarian Abroad? Is that the new party motto?

[chinche]

I would define the end of conservatism [sic] as when "conservatives" think the State department has a legitimate mission to muck about in the internal affairs of other countries. That sort of Wilsonian foreign policy is directly responsible for the sad state of affairs today.

Libertarian at Home, Authoritarian Abroad? Is that the new party motto?

I was speaking of the conversation, not conservatism. But now we have gone from defending the arrest and forced hormone treatment of oddly behaving men, to the equation of such things with the commitment and forced treatment of TB carriers, now to a Buchanan-like rant about Wilsonian foreign policy. You are all over the place. So let’s agree to retreat from Iraq, shall we?

[Alter Kaker]

No, just forms which present a public health threat.

So unprotected sex should be a felony?

[BubbaTheRocketScientist]

Buchanan-like

I can't stand that guy.

So let’s agree to retreat from Iraq, shall we?

Sorry, there's no equivalence there. Let me spell it out: Country which has attacked it's neighbors (our allies) in the past, attempting to manufacture nuclear and biological weapons, and has used chemical weapons repeatedly in the past = valid target for interventionist foreign policy.

Country which wants to (in your view) violate the civil rights of 1% of it's citizens = none of our business.

was speaking of the conversation, not conservatism.

Sorry, I read too fast. Probably a good idea since we're not going to make any progress here.

[chinche]

Sorry, I read too fast. Probably a good idea since we're not going to make any progress here

Enough then. You are young here on FR. I am old. I think you should ponder your position on the matter. That's all. Good luck.

[BubbaTheRocketScientist]

So unprotected sex should be a felony?

Yeah, great idea! Um, except for the resulting inability of humankind to reproduce under those circumstances.

[chinche]

So unprotected sex should be a felony?

I suppose you should say, sex outside of absolutely monogamous marriage (forever) should be a felony.

[Alter Kaker]

Yeah, great idea! Um, except for the resulting inability of humankind to reproduce under those circumstances.

No, I agree it's an insane idea, just one of several reasons why I have no idea what you're talking about.

[eleni121]

Thanks for the source Cornpone.

I am well aware of mooslem attitudes about love and marriage and women because I have known so many over the years.

I have sat across from a mooslem Yemeni woman at a wedding reception and listened to her tell me that she cannot leave her horribly abusive husband because to do so would mean she would never see her children again and she would probably end up disappeared.

This is in the US. This is one of the less troubling stories.

[eleni121]

It may be hard to do it with a Mooslem....but it's done all the time: rape. Especially the rape of non mooslem females.

[Fruitbat]

A thief looses a hand, I wonder what these guys will have cut off for this?

Perhaps something will be sewn shut. There's more than one way to skin a cat.

[Mamzelle]

re: . His take on it was that with all the wars and whatnot the muslims were involved in, many of the men were dying, leaving widows for the few remaining men.)))

(snort) I guess there're a lot of middle-aged widows that these fellows are willing to marry and support. yeah. right. This is a culture that marries off little girls--Anwar Sadat's 12-yr-old daughter, for one.