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Where is the love? (Prenups)
The Lowell Sun ^ | 02/14/2006 | Rita Savard

Posted on 02/15/2006 5:51:53 PM PST by qam1

By the time Donna Peterson's three children are grown, her estate will be worth $5 million.

The kids -- now 5, 8 and 16 -- can cash in on the family assets when they turn 30. But there is a catch -- each must sign a prenuptial agreement before saying "I do."

No prenup means no money until their 55th birthdays, says the Chelmsford resident.

"I'm not saying they're going to make a bad choice, but it happens," explains the 45-year-old, who has been happily married for 17 years without a prenup. "At 21, with puppy love, who knows how you're going to feel about the person 10 years down the road? We have to protect what we've earned."

Demands like Peterson's are climbing in the Massachusetts Probate and Family Court, where Middlesex County Register John Buonomo estimates 5 percent of all newlyweds in the Bay State are signing prenups before exchanging vows.

Figures from the register's office show the number of divorces declining by more than 2,600 since 2001, and prenuptial agreements steadily increasing by nearly 13 percent.

Reasons for prenups vary, but Buonomo believes two trends are driving the demand: age and women's professions.

"In the five years I've been register, I've noticed a considerable increase in prenuptial agreements," Buonomo says. "People are living longer, and they want to protect their assets. And more women are bringing up the discussion.

"Women have moved up the socio-economic ladder. They're partners in law firms, doctors and professors, and they want to secure their investments."

Boston lawyer Marty Kane, who represents residents in Greater Lowell, says 25 percent of all his clients' prenups stem from Generation X -- those ages 30 to 40 -- compared to less than 5 percent for older generations.

Generation X, adds Kane, is a guiding force in the rising tide of financial pacts.

"There are a lot of people in this age group that made a ton of money during the peak of the dot-com era," Kane says. "It's this generation that's putting prenups together."

Another push is coming from Generation Xers' baby-boomer parents.

"There's more acceptance of prenups today in general," Kane says. "Parents work very hard to leave a cushion for kids to fall back on. Sometimes you find the push for the prenup isn't necessarily the party getting married, but from the parents who forked over the dough."

That's where the Donna Peterson comes in.

Her oldest son, who is 16, is destined to become the first beneficiary of the family fortune.

There is a Catch-22. Peterson's son has no idea that a prenuptial agreement is in his future if he wants to collect his inheritance.

"He can use his parents as a scapegoat if he has to," says Peterson. "If he's really in love, it shouldn't matter. If it sours the relationship, he can move onward and upward."

Kane says mentioning the word prenup can lead to "one of the most difficult conversations two people can have."

He recalled a personal friend who waited to "drop the bomb" the day before his wedding.

"He was nervous, thinking his bride-to-be might call the wedding off," Kane says. "I wouldn't recommend leaving the discussion for the last minute like he did. But she still agreed to marry him."

Buonomo suspects prenups are increasing because younger people marrying are staying together for shorter periods of time. If a person has valuable assets going into a marriage -- a house, a car, jewelry or cash savings -- he wants to be sure to keep them in case married life is no longer blissful.

"Last week, I saw a woman in her late 30s who was going through her third divorce," says Buonomo. "People fall in love, love is bliss, then all of a sudden, it's not working out, and it's let's get out fast."

His theory?

"Short engagements lead to short marriages," Buonomo says. "There is an important part of marriage and it's called engagement. If people put more time into that, we'd see less divorces, and maybe less prenups."


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KEYWORDS: babyboomers; cheapertokeepher; deathofthewest; genx; loveandmarrige; marriage; prenups
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1 posted on 02/15/2006 5:51:55 PM PST by qam1
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To: qam1

Well its her money, she can disperse it anyway she wants


2 posted on 02/15/2006 5:54:54 PM PST by apackof2 (You can stand me up at the gates of hell, I'll stand my ground and I won't back down)
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To: qam1

Anyone who gets miffed at this is living in denial. Family money is family money, it should not go to ex-spouses if your kid gets a divorce.


3 posted on 02/15/2006 5:55:30 PM PST by misterrob (Islam is a hate crime)
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To: qam1

I agree. The problem is not with prenups, although none of my children have them. The problem is with frequent divorce.

This is not that different from entailment, which used to be common among landed families in England.


4 posted on 02/15/2006 5:58:05 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: apackof2

My mother's husband pocketed as much of her cash as he could after she died even though there was a will that she had been in the middle of updating. Problem was that updating negated the previous will and postnup agreement.


5 posted on 02/15/2006 5:58:08 PM PST by misterrob (Islam is a hate crime)
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Generation X, adds Kane, is a guiding force in the rising tide of financial pacts.

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6 posted on 02/15/2006 5:58:17 PM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: qam1

bump


7 posted on 02/15/2006 6:01:38 PM PST by lowbridge (I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather. Not screaming, like his passengers.)
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To: misterrob
Ridiculous!
I'm sorry
8 posted on 02/15/2006 6:02:29 PM PST by apackof2 (You can stand me up at the gates of hell, I'll stand my ground and I won't back down)
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To: qam1
What an awesome way to protect your kids!

"I'm sorry baby. You KNOW I love you, but my folks wont let me do this without that prenup. You are a wonderful girl, probably the best I will ever meet, but unfortunately I will need to eat whether you hang around or not. So lets just pretend we are married? We can call it a 'test-drive'. Oh baby, don't be that way. You KNOW I love you. Don't make me choose between you and my food!"

9 posted on 02/15/2006 6:03:21 PM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: qam1

I like this variation on the conditional bequest.

If god forbid I have to get remarried I am doing a prenup.



10 posted on 02/15/2006 6:05:33 PM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: qam1

Amazing, isn't it? Women love to cling to the man with money and desire the ability to soak him for every dime if the marriage doesn't work out. But when it's the woman with the money, they insist on the prenup.


11 posted on 02/15/2006 6:06:57 PM PST by SamAdams76 (Hunting with Cheney still safer than driving with a Kennedy)
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To: Pukin Dog
Hmmmmmmmmm....I suspect its a way to get your kids majorly pissed off, but hey - it ain't their $$$!!!!

Given my track record, if I had a large estate I might consider doing something like this - if they do screw up and have to wait til 55, they will be beaucoup grateful that Mom & Dad loved them enough to do this, knowing it might cause some problems in the short term.........

12 posted on 02/15/2006 6:07:28 PM PST by Al Simmons ("Only those are fit to live who do not fear to die" - Theodore Roosevelt)
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To: qam1

I wonder if going into a marriage defensively will ironically contribute to a divorce later.

While I can see certain advantages to a prenup, I also see the hidden message: that you don't trust your spouse.


13 posted on 02/15/2006 6:17:10 PM PST by MoochPooch (A righteous person worries about his or her behavior, an extremist about everyone else's.)
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To: qam1

I'm in favor of a prenup when there are children from a previous marriage, and a decent amount of assets that belong to said children.

I thought family money, assets, and items aquired before marriage were exempt from a divorce settlement?


14 posted on 02/15/2006 6:18:28 PM PST by TheSpottedOwl (Support the fence....grow a Victory Garden!)
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15 posted on 02/15/2006 6:19:03 PM PST by day10 (Whenever you come near the human race, there's layers and layers of nonsense.)
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To: qam1
Smart move by the parents ... as a lot of people said here "its their money, they can do with it as they please".

But I'm sure there will be some very crafty lawyers who will circumvent this clause.

I just figure, why bother getting married at all these days. For us gen-x'ers there is no benefit to it any more ... at least as far as I have observed.
16 posted on 02/15/2006 6:22:14 PM PST by MaDeuce (Do it to them, before they do it to you!)
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To: day10

ahh yes the OVER-legalization of our nation continues....

I stopped reading when I hit the line about where they lived (Massachusetts).....


17 posted on 02/15/2006 6:22:57 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Brokeback Mountain: The ONLY western where the Cowboys GET IT IN THE END!!!)
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To: SamAdams76
Amazing, isn't it? Women love to cling to the man with money and desire the ability to soak him for every dime if the marriage doesn't work out. But when it's the woman with the money, they insist on the prenup.

No, that's smart.

We men aren't as smart... at least the first time.

18 posted on 02/15/2006 6:23:44 PM PST by bikepacker67 (Islam was born of Hagar the whore.)
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To: MoochPooch
"I wonder if going into a marriage defensively will ironically contribute to a divorce later"

Maybe this is a bad analogy, but I keep thinking of words like "regulation" and "manipulation" and "control" when I hear prenup. And those are Democrat words. The 'rats always have to control every little thing.
19 posted on 02/15/2006 6:25:17 PM PST by jdm (You can learn a lot about paranoids just by following them around.)
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To: qam1

Is this controlling and money obsessed woman going to dictate the terms of the pre-nups, for her not even marriagable aged children?


20 posted on 02/15/2006 6:26:01 PM PST by jocon307 (The Silent Majority - silent no longer)
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