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As one writer said he is "our age's George F Kennan" and "the brain the Pentagon would like to pick". You'll agree with him on somethings ad disagree on others. Between two people the agreements and disagreements will be over different items in his philospohy.

(I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
1 posted on 02/15/2006 7:19:06 PM PST by K-oneTexas
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To: Paul Ross; Jeff Head

ChiPing


2 posted on 02/15/2006 7:24:50 PM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: K-oneTexas

This is the strongest article yet by Barnett attacking the old school Pentagon.


3 posted on 02/15/2006 7:29:58 PM PST by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: K-oneTexas
I suppose it is relevant that he adopted a Chinese girl recently and while in China engaged on a paid speaking tour.
5 posted on 02/15/2006 7:33:26 PM PST by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: K-oneTexas

Chinese Defense Minister Gives Speech About WAR plans against the United States


6 posted on 02/15/2006 7:34:00 PM PST by NWO Slave
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To: K-oneTexas

Barnett is dumber than a post.


7 posted on 02/15/2006 7:35:24 PM PST by ckilmer
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To: K-oneTexas
He is an idiot, reminds me of hackett, rest his soul, We must be ready for the Big War, that is the one that threatens our entire existence.
8 posted on 02/15/2006 7:36:50 PM PST by Roverman2K
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To: K-oneTexas; ALOHA RONNIE; Mia T; Alamo-Girl; Travis McGee; All
Americans need to demand more from our political leaders than an unimaginative strategy of just waiting around for the next "near-peer competitor" to arise—in effect, keeping our powder dry

Mr communist sympathizer Barnett, our powder was given away to the chinese by your treasonous bill and hillary clinton.

U S Congressional Record/Senate
106th Congress
June 23, 1999
pgs. S7483-S7486
The Clinton National Security Scandal and Coverup
Senator James Inhofe
(top right hand cornor)

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Alamo-Girl.com

10 posted on 02/15/2006 7:41:48 PM PST by Sic Luceat Lux
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To: K-oneTexas

Once China has sucked all the manufacturing out of the United States and sees that we can no longer make goods to protect ourselves, they will come. And all the business men, Congressman, and Senators that got rich outsourcing our manufacturing jobs will be the first to run.


12 posted on 02/15/2006 7:45:52 PM PST by dirtydanusa (100% American, no Jap cars, no Chinese shoes.)
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To: K-oneTexas
The big war is a lot like the "big dog". You're a lot more likely to be bitten by some yappy little terrier than you are by a 100 pound pitbull. The problem lies in what happens afterward. When a dachsund bites you, you give it a kick, wash the bite with peroxide and then go yell at the owner. When a pitbull bites you, you're in a fight for your life and you're lucky to get away with stitches and some deep scars.

We can suffer through dozens of little wars like what we are fighting in Iraq right now and although it's a terrible setback if we lose one, it's not the end of the world. When you fight the big war however, losing really is the end of the world, at least for us.

14 posted on 02/15/2006 7:52:25 PM PST by elmer fudd
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To: K-oneTexas

The Chinese Are Our Friends by Thomas P. M. Barnett


Sure they are, Tommy ... sure they are.


16 posted on 02/15/2006 7:58:32 PM PST by pyx (Rule #1. The LEFT lies. Rule #2. See Rule #1.)
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To: K-oneTexas
The difference in spending is due in great part to the fact that China can field millions more soldiers that we can. We in the West value every life, and in the Far East life is cheap. We are willing to spend a lot of money to save our people. China will just draft another.

China is a threat, and one that cannot be ignored.

19 posted on 02/15/2006 8:23:13 PM PST by ibheath (Born again and grateful to God.)
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Oh, yeah, right...the PRC is no threat.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

What a friggin IDIOT.

20 posted on 02/15/2006 8:26:37 PM PST by gaijin
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To: K-oneTexas

This article from Barnett is over the top. I guess he's angling for a top job in the next Democrat administration. It reminds me of James Fallows 1981 book, "National Defense."

Both share the same premise that high tech weaponry is too expensive, too exotic, and ultimately useless.

Fallows used bogus statistics from the Vietnamn War regarding the limited use of fighter aircraft - (guess what the NVA had no friggin air force). Gary Hart of course adioted this trendy analysis in 1984 and argued that we need a cheap efficient simple low tech military. The greater than 30:1 fighter kill ratios (Israel vs Syria in the 80's), cruise missiles, JDAMS, B-2's, etc wouldn't be available today if those turkeys ruled the roost.

Barnett doesn't take the Chinese potential threat seriously. It's not his job. Rumsfeld doesn't want this country blackmailed 10 years from now because he took the advice of academic pooftas claiming to know the future.


24 posted on 02/15/2006 9:13:45 PM PST by Maynerd
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To: K-oneTexas

So it took him nine years to pen this screed.

China is about as much fiend as friend. They can't control corruption among their people even though they do a lot of showy crackdowns. The best thing that can be said for trade with China is that it provides an incentive for them not to nuke us.


33 posted on 02/15/2006 11:44:16 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: K-oneTexas; ALOHA RONNIE; Travis McGee; Jeff Head; Stainless Steel Rat
As one writer said he is "our age's George F Kennan" and "the brain the Pentagon would like to pick".

No. He is a disengenous nincompoop. One who has consistently failed to understand, or appreciate the scope and scale of China's very much military/industrial threat. And Russia's ongoing collaboration thereto.

You'll agree with him on somethings ad disagree on others.

I have yet to see a SINGLE thing he postulates that I find agreeable. I say without compunction that Barnett is totally and completely a left wing wack job...an Alger Hiss. He got fired finally after openly campaigning for John Kerry from his DOD job. A servile tool of Communist China apologetics. His misunderstanding of how devoted those 35-year old Chinese "factory" managers are to those aging political hadliners who have scripted the demise of the U.S. industrial position is complete. And we have done nothing to shake the Communist Party's foundations. If anything, with our own corporate complicity, and governmental strategic industry neglect and misfeasance, we have bolstered their communist control.

The "free-wheeling capitalist China" is not real. It is a front, tethered on a leash made of totalitarian steel cables...with the reigns strongly held by those monsters who still worship at Mao's feet.

And I am under Barnett's magical age limits. His age is, if I'm not mistaken, also over those same age limits not to listen to, BTW.

Fortunately, Barnett finally got his butt fired in '04 out of the hold-over post in the USN War College. A posting that Xlinton had appointed him to in what, August '98? From that post he spewed demented world views supportive of Strobe Talbott's, Madeline Allbrights and Bill Xlinton's.

That was a long time for a lying miscreant to demoralize and confuse our military... but we here at Free Republic are ready to roll up our sleeves and take this BS'ing idjit on.

Did you see the biting sarcasm of a like-minded reviewer of Barnett's book, The Pentagon's New Map? Here is a snippet:

Robert D. Steele (Oakton, VA United States) -

This is another of those books that started as an article and should have stayed there. The author, who appears to be either unfamiliar with or unwilling to credit works from earlier decades as well as more recently that present ideas similar to and often superior to his, has essentially three good ideas that can be summed up as follows:

Idea #1: World can be divided into a Functioning Core and a Non-Integrating Gap. The disconnected gap is bad for business (risky) and the US military can protect its budget by getting into the business of exporting security so that Wall Street can do more business safely.

Idea #2: Connectivity or disconnectedness are the essential means of defining and influencing which countries are able to move into the Functioning Core and which remain in the Non-Integrating Gap [too state-centric for my taste, but a good point--my 1990's call for Digital Marshal Plan remains valid.]

Idea #3: Economic relationships have replaced military power as the essential attribute of relations among nations--for example, we cannot deal with China as a military power without first having a comprehensive economic strategy and economic tools with which to influence them.

There are many points where I agree with the author, and I give him credit for thinking of all of this on his own, without much attention to decade's worth of scholarship and informed professional opinion in the military journals. He is absolutely correct to note that we cannot fence the Gap, we must stabilize it. Of course, Joe Nye and Max Manwaring and Mark Palmer and Bob Oakley and Jonathan Schell, to name just 5 of the 470+ national security authors have made important points along these lines, but their work is not integrated here. This is one massive Op-Ed that should have remained an article.

The author has irritated me with his low-key but obvious assumption that he is the first to break out of the box and "get it." On page 63 he goes on at length with the view that America has lacked visionaries, and the implication that he is the first to come forward. Not true. From John Boyd to Chuck Spinney to Bill Lind to GI Wilson to Mike Wylie we have had many visionaries, but the military-industrial complex has always seen them as threats. We tend to dismiss and shoot our visionaries, and I am truly glad that the author's personal relations with Cebrowski and a few others--as well as his fortunate association with a couple of naval think-forward endeavors--has given him some running room.

There is actually little of substance in this book. The article has been expanded, not with substance, but rather with very long descriptions of this young man's engagement in the process of the Pentagon and the process of strategic reflection. His discussions of the many forums that he found boring if not hostile to free thinking are excellent, and that aspect of the book takes it to four stars where it might normally have only received three.

Two weaknesses of the book, perhaps associated with the author's urgent need to "stay inside the wire" in order to keep his job:

1) All his brilliance leads to just two forces being recommended: the "big stick" force and the "baton-stick" (constabulary) force. In fact, were he more familiar with the literature, he would have understood that from diverse points we are all converging on four forces after next: Big War, Small War including White Hat/Police Ops, Peace War, and Cyber-Economic War. Inter-agency strategy, inter-agency budgeting, and inter-agency operations, with a joint inter-agency C4I corps under military direction, are the urgently needed next step.

2) The author is delusional when describing and praising our operational excellence in defeating well-armed enemies. Were he more familiar with the after action reports from Iraq, particularly those done by the Army War College (clearly on a different planet from the Navel War College), he would understand that Iraqi incompetence was the foremost factor in our success, especially when Rumsfeld insisted on throwing out the sequence of force plans and sending us in light and out of balance. He also ignores the vulnerability of complex systems and relies much too heavily on University of Maryland and CIA unclassified publications that are completely out of step with European conflict studies and other arduously collected ground truths about the extent of state and sub-state war and violence.

I disagree with his concluding recommendations that place Africa last on the list of those areas to be saved. His overall recommendations are simplistic, focusing on the standard litany for Pentagon go-alongs: Iraq, Korea, Iran, Colombia, Middle East, China, Asian NATO, Latin American NATO, Africa.

I note with interest his use of the term, "the military-market link." I believe this refers to an assumption, matured by the author in the course of his Wall Street wargames, and certainly acceptable to the neo-conservatives, to wit, that the U.S. military exists to export security so America can do business. I would draw the reader's attention to Marine Corps General Butler's book, "War as a Racket", and his strong objection to having spent his career as an "enforcer" for US corporations.

I do want to end with a note of deep sympathy for the author. On the one hand, he overcame a period of time when his sanity was questioned by ignorant Admirals and other "lesser included" Captains of limited intellect. On other he is trapped in a system that does not like iconoclasts but rewards those who innovate on the margins. His book is most useful in describing this environment, where people who rely on secrets are completely out of touch with reality, and service chiefs focus on protecting their budgets rather than accomplishing (or even defining) their mission. He appears to have discovered the Catholic mafia within the naval services, and his several references throughout the book lend weight to my belief that we need to do religious counter-intelligence within the government.

/Sarcasm OFF
(on behalf of Mr. Steele)

39 posted on 02/16/2006 9:44:38 AM PST by Paul Ross (Hitting bullets with bullets successfully for 35 years!)
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To: K-oneTexas

Must be the reason Clinton kept selling them our classified technology.


42 posted on 02/16/2006 11:10:32 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: K-oneTexas
In the future, America will have more in common with China than with Japan, with India than with the UK, with Brazil than with Canada, and with Russia than either France or Germany

I'd like to know what other planet with entities with these names he might be referring too...he couldn't possibly be referring to Earth could he? I mean this guy is supposed to be "smart." What is it with our intellectuals and their obsequious love affair with the PRC?

The Japanese are our best ally and ace in the hole. There is nothing the PRC would fear more than a rearmed Japan with its own indigenous defense industry. I agree that this guy is an idiot...and if the comparisons to Keenan are justified...than that would seal the deal that he is a "useful idiot," of the variety so much favored by Lenin et al.

45 posted on 02/16/2006 3:48:48 PM PST by Basilides
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To: K-oneTexas

Watch out for Russia. They want a piece of the action against the US.


48 posted on 02/16/2006 5:42:35 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: K-oneTexas

Does this clown have his Red Book nearby him at all times?


53 posted on 02/16/2006 9:13:05 PM PST by DoNotDivide (Romans 12:21 Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.)
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