Posted on 02/17/2006 12:08:23 PM PST by Hannah Senesh
Amen brother. I firmly believe the confluence of current geopolitical realities will force policy changes in Washington favorable to Serbia. It was very unfortunate what US did under Clinton. I believe that Washington is just looking for a way of improving the relations - there are still some lingering issues of 'face-saving' that need to be worked through.
Based on history, as I see it, they are second to very few.
Positively no argument on this! There is a common misconception that auslander means "jewish" only. The gastarbeitern are mostly muslim (Morrocan, Turk, Pakistani). When most of us Americans hear National Socialist, there tends to be a rapid assumption of anti-jewish. Many do not comprehend that a Palestinian is also a Semite quite often. So therefore when I speak out against Palestinian atrocities, I am incorrectly labeled anti-semitic. Thank you, I do not believe that I am carried away. Simply realistic.
True!
George Soros is just regular bastard who is posin as a Jew, or as a American, or as a Hungarian, as suit his purpouse, he is actualy Anti-Jew, Anti-American, Anti-jungarian, simple rich bastard who will sell Israels, USA, and Hungary if he find a man to sell him to!
But let`s be realistic, Serbia, Usa, and Israel are natural allies, we don`t need to be "brothers", or friends, but allies WE MUST BE! situation ask us to be.
Well the problem is that Milosevic was already demonized by West for earlier Balkan happenings (rightfully or not is a different discussion that should be left in the past), and then when time came it was impossible to side with him, and Albanian lobby made its move. It's almost boy who cried wolf in reverse.
And hence we have the current insanity.
As I recall from reacent history, "Black September" terrorist group that massacred Israely sportsmen in Munich, is actualy named after (look at that) date when JORDANIAN Army massacrd palestinians.
What so called antisemitism has to do with membership in EU or NATO ?
Yes, that is true, Milosevic was demonised, but Milosevic is 6 years no longer! President Boris tadic is favourite of the Wast and Yet West is still pushing Serbia, supporting Islamofascists!
Is there a reasonabile anwser?
So, it seems to me that Milosevic wasn`t the problem, but lefties on the West that wanted to please Islamofascist by demonising a Christian nation saying "Look, THOSE are bad Christians, lets get them together!"
My point axactly. Nothing.
I was just emphasysing that there is antisemitism in Europe for centuries, and that wasn`t the problem, but look now, a graffitti is a problem in Serbia.
The Serbs are NOT hailing the Nazis. The Nazis were the ones who bombed Belgrad on Orthodox Easter Sunday, trying to force the Serbs to surrender.
Of course, Clinton did the same almost 60 years later.
dear, to conclude my point that "Serbian antisemitism" is idiocy formula of George Soros, this is an article of Robert Fisk, ultra leftist, and hater of Ariel Sharon.
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/fisk/article336785.ece
Part abou Fisk spitting on Ariel Sharon and Serbian frmer president Slobodan Milosevic:
"Largely forgotten amid Sharon's hatred for "terrorism" was his outspoken criticism of Nato's war against Serbia in 1999, when he was Israeli foreign minister. Eleven years earlier he had sympathised with the political objective of Slobodan Milosevic: to prevent the establishment of an Albanian state in Kosovo. This, he said, would lead to "Greater Albania" and provide a haven for - readers must here hold their breath - "Islamic terror". In a Belgrade newspaper interview, Sharon said that "we stand together with you against the Islamic terror". Once Nato's bombing of Serbia was under way, however, Sharon's real reason for supporting the Serbs became apparent. "It's wrong for Israel to provide legitimacy to this forceful sort of intervention which the Nato countries are deploying... in an attempt to impose a solution on regional disputes," he said. "The moment Israel expresses support for the sort of model of action we're seeing in Kosovo, it's likely to be the next victim. Imagine that one day Arabs in Galilee demand that the region in which they live be recognised as an autonomous area, connected to the Palestinian Authority..."
NATO's bombing, Sharon said, was "brutal interventionism". The Israeli journalist Uri Avnery, who seized on this extraordinary piece of duplicity, said that "Islamic terror" in Kosovo could only exist in "Sharon's racist imagination". Avnery was far bolder in translating what lay behind Sharon's antipathy towards Nato action than Sharon himself. "If the Americans and the Europeans interfere today in the matter of Kosovo, what is to prevent them from doing the same tomorrow in the matter of Palestine?
"Sharon has made it crystal-clear to the world that there is a similarity and perhaps even identity between Milosevic's attitude towards Kosovo and the attitude of Netanyahu and Sharon towards the Palestinians." Besides, for a man whose own "brutal interventionism" in Lebanon in 1982 led to a Middle East bloodbath of unprecedented proportions, Sharon's remarks were, to say the least, hypocritical."
Now, WHAT Serbian anti-semitism?
Fisk is laughing at Sharons anti-terrorism.
Im going to belive that something else is abou, ANTI-SERBISM of Islamofascists and Soros, Clinton, Allbright yoke.
Sorry full article at:
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/fisk/article336785.ece
Russians were smarter than US politican, seems so.
USSR under Stalin was in non-declared state of low-intensity war against Yugoslavia (and Serba) from 1948. when Yugoslavia rejected Eastern Block and went to its own way until Stalin died.
When he died, Nikita Hruschev came to Belgrade to sort things out. At the same moments, Serbs forgot scores of their soldiers killed by Russian snipers on the border and said: "OK, lets cooperate, we don`t have to like eachother, but we must cooperate"
Problem is, there is not a smart statesman in USA to do what Hrushcev did 50 years ago.
I saw on "Discovery" a documentary of Hruschev, and his son was talking. He was with his father in that plane to Belgrade. "I`w asked my father, why he, as president of worlds most powerfull nation is going to belgrade? he anwsered to me - Cause that is one of most potent and freedomloving people, they stud up to Hiler and toook allmost 2 milion killed in WWII and just years later,, they stood to us! We don`t need them as enemies!"
Hannah darling, before bed, I just want to tall you, that you may find more and more simmilar situations in Serbia. In serbia today, there are 300,000 antisemites. Muslims, living in Rashka oblast (Sanjak) and some 100,000 Albanians living in Belgrade. They demonstrated over toons of their "prophet" and burned Danish and Israeli flags. Yep, there IS antisemitism in Serbia! Not Serb dough.
"Muslims in Serbia demonstrates against Muhammad cartoons
BELGRADE, Serbia-Montenegro-More than 1,000 Muslims marched Friday through a southern Serbia city protesting against caricatures featuring prophet Muhammad.
Although the controversial cartoons have not been published in the Balkan republic, members of the sizable Muslim minority living in Serbia's south marched through the streets of Novi Pazar, 175 kilometers (110 miles) south of Belgrade, chanting "Allah is Great" and burned the flag of Denmark, where the controversial drawings were first published.
Israeli and Norwegian flags were also burned at the rally.
Serbia's right-wing Radical Party, which in the 1990s supported Serb war campaigns against Muslims in neighboring Bosnia and in Kosovo, condemned the caricatures and called them "offensive" to followers of Islam.
The Radicals said the drawings have led to "justified revolt by Muslims everywhere who nurture the deepest reverence for Prophet Muhammad, founder of their religion and tradition."
Serbia's population of 7.5 million includes some 300,000 Muslims. Ethnic tensions persist here since the bloody ethnic conflicts triggered by the break-up by the former Yugoslavia.
The Radicals said the "immoral" caricatures violate "respect for religion and religious feelings, and incite religious hatred and intolerance."
February 10, 2006 12:01 PM"
http://www.serbianna.com/news/2006/01211.html
Very true!
It is confusing. It was Croatia where all of the Jews were first killed.
There were large numbers of Jews in Tito's resistance.
Most died fighting the Nazis.
To say that Jews are anti Serbian is nonsense, and I've worked with Serbs.
They are our friends, or at least, they were until Clinton came and bombed their civilians for the ROP.
" I was totally confused back during the bombing, but I didn't understand the Religion of Piece® as well then as I do now."
You're not alone. I too, had no idea of what was happening. I didn't know who was who or understand any part of the conflict. I don't remember any anti-war groups speaking out against the bombing, or perhaps I missed it. Was General Wesley Clark in charge of Nato then?
Confirmation on this thread concerning muslims and the SS.
Yes, and in 1948 Yugoslavia (Serbs) were smuggling "Spitfires" from Czechoslovakia painted with Yugoslav insignia to Israel in support to nely formed Israely IDF AF.
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