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1 posted on 02/22/2006 4:34:51 PM PST by johnmecainrino
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There you go again, using facts and logic to ruin a perfectly good opportunity by the Democrats to make Bush look bad.

/sarcasm

2 posted on 02/22/2006 4:38:10 PM PST by Michael.SF. (Things turn out best, for those who make the best of the way things turn out.--- Jack Buck (RIP))
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Thank you for this and your other posts on this issue, which are about facts, the valuing of which I thought made us better than the DUmmies.


4 posted on 02/22/2006 4:45:02 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Dubai-u's fault--The Port Non-Issue is Hillary's Sistah Soulja moment)
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Peter King and Chuck Schumer are tie for being publicity whores.

Peter King has received thousands of dollars from the longshoreman union.

6 posted on 02/22/2006 4:47:28 PM PST by OldFriend (..)
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The impeccable warrior will win supremely.

The less impeccable ones will be peddling furiously to avoid the paintbrush of disgrace as the autopsy of this episode is concluded.

If your stomach is turning over the sorry mixture of metaphors you are probably not cut out for mixed martial arts.


8 posted on 02/22/2006 4:48:24 PM PST by CBart95
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Can you be more specific about this law? Local radio has been talking about it and obviously doesn't know.

Thanks!


10 posted on 02/22/2006 4:49:00 PM PST by Darlan ("Humans are SUPERIOR!" - John Crichton)
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peter king who is clueless on the 1988 law that was written.

Do you have any more information on this law, like the name of it, or who wrote it?

12 posted on 02/22/2006 4:50:18 PM PST by DumpsterDiver
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Need a link to the law please...


13 posted on 02/22/2006 4:51:40 PM PST by Crim (I may be a Mr "know it all"....but I'm also a Mr "forgot most of it"...)
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So why is something that he knew nothing about a couple of days ago suddenly so important that he's picking fightes with his leaders in the House and Senate athreatening the first veto of his administration?


15 posted on 02/22/2006 4:52:26 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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I am for the port deal.

People made a snap judgement against it and now don't want to admit that they should have waited for more information. So now they are stuck defending what they describe as a common sense decision. "I just don't like the idea man, I mean these are Arabs!" I am reassured by the likes of Krauthammer and others who say the deal won't be harmful to our security.

I am unhappy with Frist and others in the GOP who panicked when their UNDER INFORMED constituents jumped to the wrong conclusion that this deal would be dangerous. Well this is more important than sticking to your guns just to be sticking to your guns. And too important for the GOP leadership to assuage thier UNDER ININFORMED constituents by peeling away support for the Administration.

What we need is for the GOP leadership to use this as a teaching moment. If they do and those who just don't want to admit that they jumped to conclusions, stubbornly refuse to admit thier ERROR...then for the good of the country the deal needs to go through anyway.


16 posted on 02/22/2006 4:53:40 PM PST by Hound of the Baskervilles (Liberals are unfit for citizenship in a country that values freedom and courage.)
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Thanks for the post. I started out wanting to hear both sides of this argument. What I have found is that those against this have brought forth little more than "I dont want Arabs running nothin" or "Their going to blow to port sky high because their all terrorist". Im firmly on the side of this deal until these guys can bring concrete proof that this is a bad idea.


19 posted on 02/22/2006 4:56:49 PM PST by VanDeKoik
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Bush doesn't have to explain anything. He is not in the weak position here. The Democrats are in the weak position. Bush has taken a principled stand. Those who want to move him will have to take up opposing positions. The others who are in the weak position are the Republicans making noise in the media right now. He might mention the port deal during some speech about something else, but he will never take the time to explain this deal to anyone in a press conference.
20 posted on 02/22/2006 4:58:33 PM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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You may be correct in your assertions, I still have a fundamental problem giving ANY Arab government that kind of temptation.

FWIW Bush's energy in this can only mean one thing to me - he made some kind of deal. Who for or what I don't know yet but we will find out someday.

25 posted on 02/22/2006 5:01:44 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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>>>Congress didn't know because it is a federal crime to talk about the specifics of the deal. Again congress mandated it be secret and now they are screaming how bush didn't inform them.

>>>Based on the law congress passed in 1988 Bush couldn't have reversed the deal after it was approved by this committee.

Does this mean Clinton had nothing to do with the Chinese ports?


31 posted on 02/22/2006 5:08:47 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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I agree. I've yet to see the Administration apply and follow an understandable KISS rule for this story. Keep It Simple, Stupid. That's why its on the defensive here.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

32 posted on 02/22/2006 5:08:53 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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I have to admit, the more I learn about this, the less I oppose it. Whether I oppose it or not, though, I just can't imagine the problems we'd have if we back out now. Like it or not, I think we must go through with it.


33 posted on 02/22/2006 5:11:36 PM PST by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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It's a done deal.Best we can do now is learn more about it.Posts like yours are helpful.Thanks.
37 posted on 02/22/2006 5:19:43 PM PST by smoothsailing
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Great post.

We should keep a running list of these lies, misconceptions, and outright fabrications.

You didn't number yours, so I'll start with mine:

Myth #1: This deal was hatched in secret in the last couple of weeks without any knowledge on the part of our highly-esteemed leaders in Congress like Chuck Schumer, Peter King, etc.

Fact: The acquisition of P&O Ports by Dubai Ports World was formally announced on November 29, 2005. The fact that people like Schumer, King, etc. waited until mid-February to express their "concerns" about a corporate acquisition that was made public in November of last year tells me they are either too ignorant and incompetent to dress themselves in the morning, or they are just opportunistic, self-aggrandizing @ssholes.

43 posted on 02/22/2006 5:27:07 PM PST by Alberta's Child
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man some of the most ill-informed people on this forum are having a field day with this...

thank you for your rational and well thought out post.


47 posted on 02/22/2006 5:36:25 PM PST by MikefromOhio
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bttt


55 posted on 02/22/2006 6:02:59 PM PST by petercooper (Win the war. Confirm the judges. Cut the taxes. Control the spending. Seal the borders.)
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Thanks for the facts. I originally didn't know what to make of this deal. We really didn't know anything about it yet.

I was amazed at all of the Bush bashing. For awhile, I thought I was over at DU.

I am now seeing this as no problem whatsoever. It has been contrived by Democrats to once again, try to sink this president.


63 posted on 02/22/2006 6:20:14 PM PST by TheLion
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