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Darwin’s Jews
Jewish Week ^ | 23 Feb 06 | David Klinghoffer

Posted on 02/23/2006 5:26:21 PM PST by gobucks

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In his “Guide of the Perplexed,” Maimonides wrote that combating the Darwinism equivalent of his day was the highest calling of a Jew..

An honest Darwinist should not say kiddush.

1 posted on 02/23/2006 5:26:22 PM PST by gobucks
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To: SJackson

a neat juxtaposition for you ...


2 posted on 02/23/2006 5:27:30 PM PST by gobucks (Blissful Marriage: A result of a worldly husband's transformation into the Word's wife.)
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"A sophisticated debate about Darwinian evolution is going on at the topmost levels of the Catholic Church."

Got to be kidding me...is this the same CAtholic Church that ruled recently that they were wrong about limbo. Looks like all that "sophisticated debate" didn't provide many answers there!


3 posted on 02/23/2006 5:51:31 PM PST by indcons
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To: gobucks

Could I get a copy of that list of discoveries the Discovery Institute has made? Anybody?


4 posted on 02/23/2006 5:52:48 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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To: indcons

Well, no, unless I missed it the Catholic Church has not yet ruled on Limbo.


5 posted on 02/23/2006 5:55:00 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Scientists make discoveries ===> Placemarker <===
6 posted on 02/23/2006 5:56:31 PM PST by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: gobucks
I believe God is a good enough creator that when he popped the primeval monobloc out of nothingness, he put enough 'english' on it to have everything unfold the way he wanted it to.

The idea of worshiping a God so incompetent that he has to keep nudging his creation to get it to perform up to specs is preposterous.

It makes him sound as incompetent as a pool player who has to hustle around the table nudging the ball to make a triple bank shot.

So9

7 posted on 02/23/2006 5:57:28 PM PST by Servant of the 9 (" I am just going outside, and may be some time.")
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To: Cicero

I stand corrected....they hope to rule on the same any time soon (http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/california/la-ed-limbo13feb13,0,2215882.story?coll=la-headlines-pe-california)


8 posted on 02/23/2006 5:57:57 PM PST by indcons
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To: gobucks

I would welcome the Jews into this debate.


9 posted on 02/23/2006 6:01:23 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: gobucks

Could I get a copy of that list of discoveries the Discovery Institute has made? Anybody?


10 posted on 02/23/2006 6:04:35 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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"Could I get a copy of that list of discoveries the Discovery Institute has made? Anybody?"

They have discovered that an enormous number of scientists practice their craft so badly they should be sued for malpractice, at best, but better, quackery.

So, D.I. has discovered that the reason scientists are so bad at teaching science is that it is actually NOT science, but instead of form of evangelism. Thus, Secular Darwinian Scientists are merely priests for the philosophy known as scientific materialism, and they are adroitly deceptive about the fact they are preachers first, seekers of 'knowledge' second.

If I were a secular scientist, I would appreciate very much the encouragement, the goad, provided by those heretics who are mal-appropriating MY word "science" for their nefarious ends (hurting my cash-cow grant machine, for example). Such prodding will only shorten that length of time by which evolutionary scientists will finally be able to show the crazy creationists just how air tight the T.o.E is .... really.


11 posted on 02/23/2006 6:05:50 PM PST by gobucks (Blissful Marriage: A result of a worldly husband's transformation into the Word's wife.)
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To: Servant of the 9
The idea of worshiping a God so incompetent that he has to keep nudging his creation to get it to perform up to specs is preposterous.

That's one view. Mine differs: I find in Scripture that God intervenes in history because He loves us -- not because He forgot to put the right English on us.

12 posted on 02/23/2006 6:09:55 PM PST by Migraine
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"So why should you care? Because Darwinism, if accepted, makes any meaningful Judaism intellectually untenable."

Oh BS. This is supposedly a new realization? Where was this guy and this objection for the past 100 years?


13 posted on 02/23/2006 6:17:32 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (Funny taglines are value plays.)
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To: Servant of the 9
Good pool players don't play triple bank shots. They play each ball in it's turn -- if a bank is needed that's not a good sign. With each ball played the shot is not so much for to drop that ball into the designee pocket, but to drop the neat and the next after that ball into a pocket, with each follow-up.

Obviously you haven't played for $5 a ball, or $1 a ball, even.

14 posted on 02/23/2006 6:29:03 PM PST by bvw
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To: indcons

The media always tries to make mischief for the Church on these issues. I have no idea what Pope Benedict will actually decide.

Off the top of my head, I don't think it was a burning issue. Why not just leave it alone? There are plenty of more urgent concerns at the moment.


15 posted on 02/23/2006 6:30:48 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: gobucks

Evolution is directed just like weather is directed. If you believe it, you believe it. If you don't, you don't. There's no objective evidence one way or another.


16 posted on 02/23/2006 6:34:23 PM PST by narby (Hillary! The Wicked Witch of the Left)
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To: indcons

Well, maybe sophisticated is the wrong word. But surely you would not deny the Jews their shot at understanding. After all, Jesus started his logic from the Jewish postulates.


17 posted on 02/23/2006 6:38:09 PM PST by Bogie
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To: indcons

Well, maybe sophisticated is the wrong word. But surely you would not deny the Jews their shot at understanding. After all, Jesus started his logic from the Jewish postulates.


18 posted on 02/23/2006 6:38:11 PM PST by Bogie
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They have discovered that an enormous number of scientists practice their craft so badly they should be sued for malpractice

And they discovered this by their original science which has been peer reviewed and published where? Anywhere?

Now you'll claim a big conspiracy theory prevented the publication. Right.

19 posted on 02/23/2006 6:39:50 PM PST by narby (Hillary! The Wicked Witch of the Left)
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To: gobucks
"Could I get a copy of that list of discoveries the Discovery Institute has made? Anybody?"

They have discovered that an enormous number of scientists practice their craft so badly they should be sued for malpractice, at best, but better, quackery.

So, D.I. has discovered that the reason scientists are so bad at teaching science is that it is actually NOT science, but instead of form of evangelism. Thus, Secular Darwinian Scientists are merely priests for the philosophy known as scientific materialism, and they are adroitly deceptive about the fact they are preachers first, seekers of 'knowledge' second.

If I were a secular scientist, I would appreciate very much the encouragement, the goad, provided by those heretics who are mal-appropriating MY word "science" for their nefarious ends (hurting my cash-cow grant machine, for example). Such prodding will only shorten that length of time by which evolutionary scientists will finally be able to show the crazy creationists just how air tight the T.o.E is .... really.

I simply do not understand posts like this.

Why are you so bitterly anti-science?

Is it for religious reasons, that you just don't like the answers science finds, or is there some deep-seated personal animosity?

Most of the folks on FR who disagree with evolution at least provide reasons for their beliefs, but you seem to be genuinely anti-science.

20 posted on 02/23/2006 6:40:25 PM PST by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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