Posted on 02/23/2006 7:44:32 PM PST by george76
The National Rifle Association pressed its case against San Francisco's voter-approved ban on firearm sales and handgun possession in court today, arguing that the ordinance flouts state law by requiring law-abiding residents to surrender their pistols.
The city's lawyer countered that a local government is entitled to protect its residents from handgun violence.
The hearing ended without Superior Court Judge James Warren ruling on the validity of Proposition H, which was approved by 58 percent of the voters Nov. 8 and was challenged by the NRA, three other organizations and seven gun owners the next day.
Warren asked the city to delay enforcement until he rules, which could be as late as mid-June.
Deputy City Attorney Wayne Snodgrass said city officials would probably accept some postponement.
Prop. H prohibits handgun possession by San Francisco residents and bans the sale, manufacture and distribution of firearms and ammunition within city limits.
It exempts law enforcement officers and others who need guns for professional purposes.
Two other major U.S. cities, Chicago and Washington, D.C., have outlawed handguns.
Gun-rights advocates in Congress have been trying for years to scuttle Washington's ban.
A constitutional challenge to a handgun ban in the Chicago suburb of Morton Grove, Ill., was rejected by a federal appeals court in 1982.
(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...
Good for the NRA
The no guns policies of NYC and Washington, DC really made those cities safe.
Where guns are outlawed, only terrorists will be armed -- foreign and domestic.
When we said "right to bear arms" - we didn't mean for you!
- the American Left
Yes, like Superior Court Judge James Warren. **snicker**
Ten to one Warren carries.
Of course, 'is Lordship is ruling on what the peasants can do, not the peerage.
I guess we're just lucky that the robes haven't declared droit de seigneur, just yet. ;-)
I heard a rumor that someone from WW2 made a comment that America couldn't be invaded because there were too many guns. Did you ever hear that? If so, do you know who said it?
That was stated by members of the Japanese Naval Self Defense Forces who had served in the old "Imperial Japanese Navy" to members of a U.S. Navy exchange/training group & is a supposed quote from Admiral Yamamoto. The quote being that invading the mainland of the United States would be like walking thru quicksand . The Americans encourage the private ownership of arms & hold annual shooting contests all across the nation, to invade the United States were there would literally be a sharpshooter behind every tree and blade of grass is something we are not so foolish to contemplate.
I think it was a Russian defector who said that. He said that the Russians were not worried about our nukes as they were our millions of guns in the hands of the citizens.
Cool! Let's keep that going.
The UN votes to take all the guns of the world (read America) in June. Bolton has my prayers!
That was what I was trying to recall. Thank you.
Bolton really does need our prayers. I'm adding him to my candles. I may end up burning down my house with all the candles I've been lighting.
Amen
Bump
I heard about the Soviet concerns as well. I wish I had a good, solid source to link it to, though.
Bolton Prayer Bump!
Does this have something to do with IANSA or whatever that NGO is called?
Yah, only for the "militia". Strange that the entire rest of the Constitution and Bill of Rights were for the "individual" not giving rights to the Government. I always thought the "militia" was the Government.
Japan would have been my guess, but didn't have the details. Thanks.
Yeah, that's it.
It's funny how the left looks at the Constitution and sees a right to abortion (even though it's never mentioned) and a right to healthcare (even though it's never mentioned) and a right to social security (even though it's never mentioned) and we're expected to act on all these asserted rights - but when it comes to the CITIZEN ARMY (read - the "minutemen" of the American revolution aka the militia) suddenly we're going to argue over definitions.
Lexington and Concord (the first battles of the American revolution) were fought cause the British were trying to seize guns from the citizens.
But you're right - I'm sure the founders didn't think this was important....
There are times I wish the NRA wouldn't spend the money on places which vote away their Rights. I Then think of the businessperson who has to travel to those places.
Yes, good for the NRA. They had to compromise all those years to get things done but we're starting to win the country back from the anti-Freedoms.
A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained in arms, is the best most natural defense of a free country.
James Madison (you know, the guy who actually wrote the Constitution)
In other words, WE ARE THE MILITIA. The government can call us out to suppress an insurrection or to help oppose an invasion from another country, but WE ARE THE MILITIA, period.
Strange that the entire rest of the Constitution and Bill of Rights were for the "individual" not giving rights to the Government.
The simple fact is that no government on any level has rights. Government can only have powers - and in this country, any powers that the federal government has are those that are specifically granted to it by the PEOPLE...which necessarily implies that WE had those powers to begin with, otherwise how could they be given to government? Any time a right is referenced, whether in the body of the Consitution or in the Amendments, it can only refer to a right held by individuals. Anyone who tells you otherwise is either uninformed (willingly or just out of natural stupidity) or an evil collectivist tyrant (/oxymoron). Oh, and the whole "collective right" argument of the anti-gun @sswipes was invented in approx. 1906 by an anti-gun Kansas judge. When rights are "collective" then they cease to exist.
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