Did UAE Save Bin Laden? -- Richard Clarke's Phone Call and Osama's Escape

Human Events ^ | February 24, 2006 | Terence P. Jeffrey

[lawdog]

Hell of a rant but I like your style...the truth be told ...but the stars in heaven are more likely to fall first.

[lawdog]

The "911 Commission" was a circus but both parties supplied the clowns...

[Admin Moderator]

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[Cedar]

Another reason why many are opposing this deal... (from the post by Stellar Dendrite):


"Here is a partial list of terrorist organizations and individuals with Dubai, UAE ties that were designated after 9/11 by the Bush administration to have their assets frozen.

· Al Baraka Exchange LLC, Dubai, U.A.E.
· Al-Barakaat, Mogadishu, Somalia; Dubai, U.A.E.
· Al-Barakaat Group of Companies Somalia Ltd., Mogadishu, Somalia; Dubai, U.A.E.
· Al-Barakaat Finance Group, Dubai, U.A.E.; Mogadishu, Somalia
· Al-Barakaat Financial Holding Company, Dubai, U.A.E.; Mogadishu, Somalia
· Al-Barakat Global Telecommunications, Hargeysa, Somalia; Mogadishu, Somalia; Dubai, U.A.E.
· Al-Barakat International, Dubai, U.A.E.
· Al-Barakat Investments, Deira, Dubai, U.A.E.
· Baraka Trading Co., Dubai, U.A.E.
· Barakaat Construction Co., Dubai, U.A.E.
· Barakaat Group of Companies, Mogadishu, Somalia; Dubai, U.A.E.
· Barakaat International Companies (BICO), Mogadishu, Somalia; Dubai, U.A.E.
· Barakaat Telecommunications Co. Somalia, Ltd., Dubai, U.A.E.
· Barakat Bank and Remittances, Mogadishu, Somalia; Dubai, U.A.E.
· Barakat Global Telephone Co., Mogadishu, Somalia; Dubai, U.A.E.
· Barakat Refreshment Co., Mogadishu, Somalia; Dubai, U.A.E. · Parka Trading Co., Deira, Dubai, U.A.E.
· Red Sea Barakat Co. Ltd., Mogadishu, Somalia; Dubai, U.A.E.
· Jim'ale, Ahmed Nur Ali, Mogadishu, Somalia; Dubai, U.A.E."

[eyespysomething]

Were their assets frozen? I know they did freeze quite a bit of them.

[Cedar]

I'm reposting information from post #36 by Stellar Dendrite. I need to research it more myself.

Stellar apparently has more info about the UAE on Stellar's homepage, but that information has been temporarily sealed by FR court order for some reason.

:)

[devolve]

                       

[thoughtomator]

It's plain old common sense that Islamic Arabs would take the side of other Islamic Arabs whose philosophy they share. Until the port supporters take that issue head-on, without crying "racism!", the rancor will continue.

[WatchingInAmazement]

"I am one of those who do not believe that a national debt is a national blessing, but rather a curse to a republic; inasmuch as it is calculated to raise around the administration a moneyed aristocracy dangerous to the liberties of the country." -- President Andrew Jackson - (1824)

[Common Tator]

I would guess that he's probably done more research on this than the two of us combined. I could be wrong -- maybe you should prove that I am.

Back then Bin Laden was living in a tent. He was moving during the day and moved to a new location every night. Now he is living in a cave but moves every day. The odds of hitting his tent or cave in a missile attack are at best about 10,000 to 1. Our information is always a few hours old.. and he has always moved by the time we strike. He does not know when or where attacks are coming. He just always fears attacks from some source. Such attacks on bin Laden have been likely for years. He escapes killing or capture by constantly moving. He has been doing it for a very long time.

The only thing that surprised bin Laden by the Clinton attack was that it took bubba so long to mount one.

If our military could hit a person moving constantly and in hiding we would have used a missile to get Saddam, and one to get Bin Laden. We have tried at hundreds of times since the fighting started in Afghanistan. We bombed and used missiles on a number of places trying to get Saddam. But it took men on the ground searching possible hiding sights to find him. It will take the same thing to get bin Laden.

Back during the Clinton administration bin Laden was using cell phones to communicate. When ever he used one, he would move. He is not stupid. When someone left his camp, he then moved his camp. If the person who left was to come back they were only told a place to meet a guide who would then bring them to the new camp location. If the guide did not return in a short time they moved again.

It doesn't take much of an I.Q. to figure out how to avoid an attack or capture. Bin Laden is certainly not as dumb as those who believe this crapy report are.

Richard Clarke believes there are people dumb enough to believe him ... and Clarke is right. It would take a real non thinker to believe our military could make a hit on one try for Clinton and then fail in at least several hundred additional tries for Bush 43. WE have a 25 million dollar bounty on his head. It serves two purposes.. Peaple working with Laden try to earn it. But bin Laden moves fast enough so no one has collected it yet. But the mear fact of the 25 million puts him in a position where he can take zero chances and can trust no one.

Did you ever notice that to people with their head up their Rump, everything smells like sh*t

[Stellar Dendrite]

I am reporting and ready for duty, sir!! :)

[Victoria Delsoul]

Good job, thanks.

[potlatch]