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Posted on 02/25/2006 12:37:44 PM PST by Irish_Thatcherite
We agree there so.
You can't deny, however, that the Orangemen knew there would be a disturbance just like there is every July 12 when they march through Catholic areas looking for trouble.
I'm sure Danish cartoonists had an idea there was going to be trouble over the publications of cartoons of Mohammad, but they aren't to blame for it, either.
The Irish Republic is and has always been more tolerant than Northern Ireland, much of which was seeded to riffraff the English wanted to get rid of.
The southern Protestant population has fallen from 10% to less than 2% since Independence - Ireland has it's skeletons too!!
I'm glad the members of the original IRA didn't share your views or they would be singing "God Save the Queen" and bowing to Prince Floppy Ears in Dublin.
What some people don't seem to realize is, the old IRA are not the moral equals of the modern IRA - the men of the old IRA were ordinary decent men, the IRA of today are scumbags.
And my opinions are the opinions of most Irish people - they don't like IRA violence being carried out in their name.
I could say the same thing about you and Al Qaida!!
The fact is, it's better to fight terrorism than appease it!!
Jonathan Swift died on 19 October 1745, aged 78. He hadn't been in a good frame of mind for some time. He managed to keep some of his sense of humor, though--his last will and testament provided funds to establish somewhere around Dublin a hospital for "ideots & lunaticks" because "No Nation wanted [needed] it so much."
But before that, he had quite the interesting perspective on the "big-endians" versus the "small-endians."
I could tell you the same stuff about the Indians, are going to hand America back to the Indians?
No point using history as a stick against the present!!
I guess we could shove the entire IRA into a mental hospital!!
Here in the United States, we generally don't care where our neighbor goes to church. Normally, we don't even know unless we ask.
Although I am getting a little concerned about some folks who dress funny.
Hmmm... Orangemen dress funny, but only on marches!!
Updated: 2:21 p.m. ET Feb. 25, 2006
ORLANDO, Fla. - Violence broke out at a neo-Nazi rally before a planned march through a predominantly black neighborhood Saturday, with police making numerous arrests.
Police hauled away at least five people in handcuffs after a fistfight broke out between supporters of the National Socialist Movement and counter-demonstrators who were voicing their displeasure with the group’s anti-minority message.
It's still the freedom of assembly, and you can't compare Orangemen to Nazi scum!
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Can't compare Orangemen to Nazis?
Nazis oppressed Catholics. So did Orangemen.
Nazis loved to bully their enemies in the streets with parades and brawls. So do the Orangemen.
Nazis loved to remind their defeated foes who was boss through public acts of humiliation. So do the Orangemen.
Nazis were bigots. So are the Orangemen.
Granted, the comparison is limited, but it works within reason.
The IRA are terrorists!!! Why don't you come to Ireland, seeing as you know so much about it?
The IRA have murdered 2000 people in Ireland, both north and south.
It's amazing that I have to listen to a foreigner lecture me about my own damn country!!
Dhimmitude - that's what will happen when Sinn Fein/IRA overthrow the democratic governments of both the Republic and Northern Ireland.
And what the Hell do you mean by unsubstaniated claims? Are you making excuses for the IRA?
Which side are you on?
I don't recall a genocide in Northern Ireland, and the Famine wasn't genocide.
Go to somewhere else if you want to defend the IRA!!
But were they cartoons of the pope to incite the Catholics, or was the IRA putting out those offensive images of John Calvin again?
Probably a cartoon of Patrick Pearse, or Theobald Wolfe Tone!!
The thing that struck me was a passage where it discussed who would be providing security for the peaceful counter-demonstrations among Roman Catholics.
It was supposedly members of the IRA.
Is it just me, or does that sound like an extraordinarily odd way of keeping the peace?
The logic is arseways when it comes to Northern Ireland, especially with Blair and Ahern around!
The logic was a bit arseways with some the posters on this thread tonight LOL!!
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