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Two Koreas Show Off Joint Industrial Zone-(just hmm)
ap ^ | February 27, 2006 | Kelly Olsen

Posted on 02/27/2006 3:48:29 AM PST by Flavius

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To: Flavius

Time for us to wrap up and leave SK. We've been there 50 years. What's left to do ?


21 posted on 02/27/2006 6:18:58 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: MattinNJ
I just watched a great series called Damo(1993). Check it out.
22 posted on 02/27/2006 6:31:35 AM PST by ghitma (Lifter)
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To: MattinNJ
One reason I like to watch foreign films is to see such items as apartments, cars, utensils etc. I find that as an interesting side view. I thought that I was the only one.
23 posted on 02/27/2006 6:33:59 AM PST by ghitma (Lifter)
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To: ghitma
My wife likes scary movies and she caught the Asian horror bug (Ringu, the Grudge, etc..). We happened to watch two movies one night, one from Japan and one from Korea. I was amazed at the difference-Japan looked dingy and run down while Korea sparkled. I thought it might have been an exception to the rule but have since learned the opposite. Check out "Bittersweet Life" when it comes out on DVD (It's a 2005 movie so it may be a few more months). Seoul looks magnificent, the guy dresses like the Transporter, and his apartment is spectacular.

Thanks for the tip on the series-I will check it out.

If you ever want to see a GREAT movie about Communism and peoples attempts to escape it check out "The Tunnel" it's a German flick that takes place when the Berlin Wall was put up.

24 posted on 02/27/2006 6:51:15 AM PST by MattinNJ (Allen/Pawlenty in 08-play the map.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Time for us to wrap up and leave SK. We've been there 50 years. What's left to do ?

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We maintain a presence in ROK for a number of reasons, not all of them directly related to the defense of SK against NK.

NE PacRim is a vital region for US and Global interests. We need a platform from which we can project force quickly. If we abandon Korea then that leaves us only Okinawa (and they want us out).

The Koreas will unite, it's only a matter of time. If we are out of the picture physically then we can exert only minimal influence over what the unified country will look like. And, since nature (and politics) abhors a vacuum, our leaving will create a hole which China would likely fill.

25 posted on 02/27/2006 7:09:20 AM PST by wtc911 (You can't get there from here)
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To: wtc911

The longer we stay there, the more we are resented.


26 posted on 02/27/2006 7:19:22 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
"The longer we stay there, the more we are resented."

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We are resented everywhere we have bases, from the UK to Afghanistan. Korea is no different.

Just don't believe all the negative hype. There are elements that resent us but they are not the majority and they are certainly not in charge. College kids everywhere look for a bete-noir they can safely protest. In Korea we are the easy target.

Many US colleges protest our own ROTC on campus. What does that mean? Very little. Let the youth march, it's what they do. Adult Koreans don't want us going anywhere for now. They want unification but so would we in similar circumstances. And, as I said, if we bail then we can't influence the manner and form of the unification.

27 posted on 02/27/2006 7:28:54 AM PST by wtc911 (You can't get there from here)
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Any defending we need to do can be done from Guam. The SKs who remember the things we did on their account have largely died off and the current generation doesn't read books.


28 posted on 02/27/2006 7:34:36 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: Flavius

"So far, a total of 15 South Korean companies have set up shop here, shipping manufactured goods ranging from kitchen pots to semiconductor parts to the South, utilizing cheap North Korean labor.

Clothing, footwear and containers for cosmetics are among other products manufactured in the zone, where North Korean workers earn about $57 a month."

This is how it starts. North Korean workers will start wondering why, if their country is such a paradise, they are producing stuff for the South that they can't even GET in the North.


29 posted on 02/27/2006 7:35:25 AM PST by Philistone (Turning lead into gold...)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Another deep thinker.


30 posted on 02/27/2006 7:39:40 AM PST by wtc911 (You can't get there from here)
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To: wtc911

My deep thinking is the result of having lived in Asia for more than a decade. Have you been there ?


31 posted on 02/27/2006 7:55:04 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Multiple times to multiple countries including time in the DMZ in ROK.


32 posted on 02/27/2006 7:57:04 AM PST by wtc911 (You can't get there from here)
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Then tell me, why do we need to continue stationing troops in SK ?


33 posted on 02/27/2006 8:08:55 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

I gave reasons in two previous posts. Your Guam idea is not
bad, we are already moving about half the Okinawa based Marines there, but there are more reasons than first line defense of SK to maintain a solid presence on the peninsula.


34 posted on 02/27/2006 8:24:11 AM PST by wtc911 (You can't get there from here)
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I still have not heard why the US needs to defend SK in 2006 when SK has its own army. Is this so they can rebuild their war battered economy, build up manufacturing, sell TVs and autos for export ? I think they're already doing that pretty well.
After all our sacrifice of lives and treasure for their country, the SKs last year actually took bids from the French for a new fighter jet for their air force. When they did this, many people concluded it was time to leave.

I would also ask, where are the SKs going to sell their TVs and autos ? To the Chinese ? To the French ?

35 posted on 02/27/2006 8:39:30 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
I still have not heard why the US needs to defend SK in 2006 when SK has its own army

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OK, I'll try it one more time....there are reasons beyond first line defense of SK for keeping troops there. The two Koreas will unite, it is just a matter of time. The form and political tone of the new country will be of significant importance to us. If we are not there we will have little influence.

Our force on the peninsula is our only mainland Asia presence. You want to surrender that. Others think we should keep it as a balance against China and as assurance for Taiwan and Japan. I agree with that position but I am willing to hear the wisdom behind your position of abandonment of our last ground position in Asia.

36 posted on 02/27/2006 9:01:12 AM PST by wtc911 (You can't get there from here)
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If the SKs don't want us there, why stay ? 35,000 troops won't make a difference to the NKs and we've signaled as much by pulling the bulk of the troops back from the DMZ. We exited Japan for the most part and it didn't self destruct. SK is sending dollars to NK to feed their army, so which side are they on ? We're not surrendering anything we own. I can see a point where we will repeat the PI experience if we overstay our welcome.


37 posted on 02/27/2006 9:14:27 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: MattinNJ
I go for the scary ones also. I have seen the Grudge,
Rungu and many others. My wife is from Southern China
who speaks Cantonese and Mandarin. I have recently started studying Mandarin. I spend my time watching Chinese series in Mandarin, we have the satellite Asian package, and
Chinese action and ghost movies. She likes the love stories - bla! It sounds like China and S.Korea are identical in regards to life style. The cities on the Chinese coast are modern and very pleasant to live in. I have been to China many times and as a matter of fact we have a 2 bedroom condo in one of the developments.
Thanks for the tips on the movies "Bittersweet Life" and "The Tunnel". If you decide to watch the series Damo beware it is one of the saddest films I have ever seen. You better have a couple boxes of Kleenex handy. LOL
38 posted on 02/28/2006 6:56:23 AM PST by ghitma (Lifter)
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Have you seen "Infernal Affairs"-I was very impressed with the Chinese city where it took place (forget which one off hand). I thought that was a decent movie. I just saw "Election" and, although it had it's moments, I didn't really care for it.

If you like scary movies see "The Exorcism of Emily Rose"-scared the *&^% out of me-my wife thinks I'm a sissy when it comes to horror movies-she's probably right.

39 posted on 02/28/2006 8:41:56 AM PST by MattinNJ (Allen/Pawlenty in 08-play the map.)
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