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Surprise organ discovered in mice Mice are shown to have two thymus organs, not just one
News@Nature.com ^ | March 02, 2006 | Helen Pearson

Posted on 03/02/2006 8:09:22 PM PST by Marius3188

After a century of scrutinizing the laboratory mouse, one might imagine that scientists would know the creature's body like the back of their own hands. Think again, because German researchers say they have discovered a whole new organ.

Common knowledge holds that in mice, the thymus, a pinkish-grey lump of tissue that helps to produce the infection-fighting T cells of the immune system, is roughly the size of a pea and nestles in the chest above the heart.

Now Hans-Reimer Rodewald at the University of Ulm in Germany, and his colleagues say they have discovered a smaller, second thymus hidden in the necks of lab mice. "I couldn't believe it for the first couple of months," Rodewald says. "2006 is not the time that you expect to change anatomy."

Confounding organ

The discovery raises questions about some immunology studies in mice. Researchers interested in the immune system often slice out the main thymus of mice in order to study how this system works without it, and how T cells are produced in the gut and skin.

(Excerpt) Read more at nature.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Unclassified
KEYWORDS: animalresearch; mice; organ; thymus
Pretty cool.

"Confounding organ"

Quote of the day. I'll try to use that one in conversation this weekend.

1 posted on 03/02/2006 8:09:24 PM PST by Marius3188
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To: Marius3188

Hans is happier than a puppy with two peters.


2 posted on 03/02/2006 8:18:57 PM PST by JakeSladder (i used to be an angry young man, now, i'm just angry.)
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To: Marius3188

So what is the plural of thymus?


3 posted on 03/02/2006 8:20:24 PM PST by WayneM (Remember; "Saturday people first. Sunday people next.")
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To: Marius3188

Watch this throw every lab study done on these things into question. LOL!


4 posted on 03/02/2006 8:20:50 PM PST by zarf (It's time for a college football playoff system.)
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To: WayneM

Thymuseses?


5 posted on 03/02/2006 8:24:11 PM PST by Reaganesque
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To: WayneM

THYMAE...?


6 posted on 03/02/2006 8:26:08 PM PST by gaijin
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To: zarf

Gee. I was just running through a list of medical "knowledge" that wasn't so. Never thought they'd miss organs in test mice.


7 posted on 03/02/2006 8:28:07 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Marius3188

The answer is "42".


8 posted on 03/02/2006 8:31:08 PM PST by SC Swamp Fox (Join our Folding@Home team (Team# 36120) keyword: folding)
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To: Marius3188

Now if I could give a lady a "confounding organ" moment.


9 posted on 03/02/2006 8:36:21 PM PST by vwunpimsmyride
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To: Marius3188
This reminds me of a Looney Tunes cartoon which featured a cat and a dog. The dog was trying to catch the cat for whatever reason and he tried holding a female cat puppet over a fence to attract the cat. The cat discovers the puppet and begins caressing her. His hand goes up and down her back until his hand ends up resting on the dog's nose. The cat, confused, looks directly into the audience and proclaims "Something new has been added!"
10 posted on 03/02/2006 8:38:12 PM PST by Reaganesque
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To: WayneM

In this case, thymeeses.


11 posted on 03/02/2006 8:41:21 PM PST by Hessian (Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.)
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To: Marius3188

Mmmm...

Sweetbreads!


12 posted on 03/02/2006 8:41:25 PM PST by Beelzebubba (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: Marius3188

Q: What rhymes with Thymus?

A: Another Thymus of course.


13 posted on 03/02/2006 8:48:28 PM PST by Bullish ( The pig headed monkeys of Islam can kiss my grits!)
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To: Marius3188

"Little white mice cause cancer..."
- a guest on Fernwood 2 Night


14 posted on 03/02/2006 8:59:27 PM PST by Leo Farnsworth (I'm not really not Leo Farnsworth)
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To: WayneM

So what is the plural of thymus?

__________________

Thymii, oh my.


15 posted on 03/02/2006 9:11:13 PM PST by Amos the Prophet (Here come I, gravitas in tow.)
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To: Marius3188

well, the first one is obviously the "George Bush" thymus, and the one lurking in the background is the "Karl Rove" thymus, the real mastermind of the operation...


16 posted on 03/02/2006 9:32:39 PM PST by castlebrew (true gun control is hitting where you're aiming!)
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To: zarf
After a century of scrutinizing the laboratory mouse, one might imagine that scientists would know the creature's body like the back of their own hands.

Hmmm... you wonder what else these guys have been missing...

17 posted on 03/02/2006 10:07:55 PM PST by Fido969 (It's all about ME)
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To: Reaganesque

LOL!


18 posted on 03/02/2006 10:09:52 PM PST by BigCinBigD (Merry Christmas!)
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To: Marius3188

It took 2 centuries of disecting mice to discover they have two thymus glands?


19 posted on 03/02/2006 10:13:50 PM PST by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: Marius3188

Mutant mice???


20 posted on 03/02/2006 10:25:15 PM PST by LibFreeOrDie (L'Chaim!)
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To: Fido969

puhlenty!
But the assured results of modern science has proven
without a shadow of doubt that most scientists believe
in what they have been told about subjects they themselves
don't have experience in, so most would not question
how many thymii (sp?) are in the average mouse...
this will really goof up the results of countless
immunological/cancer studies...is it possible that
humans have extra thymus or thymus like organs hanging
about???
Oh...boy, this could be huge.


21 posted on 03/02/2006 10:25:48 PM PST by Getready (H)
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To: zarf
Watch this throw every lab study done on these things into question. LOL!

That is exactly what I was thinking

22 posted on 03/02/2006 10:26:28 PM PST by Irish Eyes
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To: Marius3188; texianyankee; JayB; ElkGroveDan; markman46; palmer; Bahbah; Paradox; FOG724; ...

"No matter how much we know, there's always an infinite amount more to know" ping.

Hard to believe that with all the mice getting cut up and used in laboratory experiments and tests, they could miss this one.


23 posted on 03/03/2006 7:27:42 PM PST by DaveLoneRanger (*Burp* I just got done chewing up a liberal. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1583155/posts)
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24 posted on 03/03/2006 7:32:20 PM PST by AndrewC (Darwinian logic -- It is just-so if it is just-so)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

And scientists wonder why their credibility is questioned.


25 posted on 03/03/2006 7:39:47 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Hessian

LOL!!!


26 posted on 03/03/2006 9:03:55 PM PST by skr (We cannot play innocents abroad in a world that is not innocent.--Ronald Reagan)
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To: Marius3188

Geez, I never thought I'd need to know the plural of "thymus"! Thymi? Thymuses? Thymice?


27 posted on 03/04/2006 8:41:16 AM PST by Still Thinking (Disregard the law of unintended consequences at your own risk.)
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To: AndrewC

Is that a miniature organ or am I just not your type?


28 posted on 03/04/2006 8:42:25 AM PST by Still Thinking (Disregard the law of unintended consequences at your own risk.)
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To: Hessian

"In this case, thymeeses."

LOL.


29 posted on 03/04/2006 8:43:25 AM PST by righttackle44 (The most dangerous weapon in the world is a Marine with his rifle and the American people behind him)
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To: Marius3188

It is not uncommon when examining lymph nodes from the neck or parthyroid tissues (from the neck) to find thymic tissue there also. Apparently bits of organs can be found in 'heterotopic' locations!


30 posted on 03/04/2006 8:51:07 AM PST by ladyjane
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