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The cult of the mean girl
TORONTO STAR ^ | Mar. 5, 2006 | LESLIE SCRIVENER

Posted on 03/06/2006 9:51:00 PM PST by tbird5

It happens to the best of women. Here's Rosalind Wiseman, who has spent her entire working life teaching girls to treat each other decently. The script for the movie Mean Girls was based on her 2002 best-selling Queen Bees & Wannabes, a book that helps parents understand the drama and danger in the adolescent girl world. She knows the minefields that lie in gossip, jealousy, disloyalty and cruel judgments, and offers solid prescriptions for changing bad behaviour.

Yet despite her experience, she recently found herself sizing up two mothers who came to see her.

In her view, the women paid too much attention to their appearance, especially their hair. They seemed catty in their conversation, were micromanaging their kids' lives, and were silly.

"All these things came into my head. Why? They are antithetical to what I teach and believe," Wiseman says. "I was still judging these women."

Where does this nastiness come from?

Wiseman thinks it exists because it's supposed to exist. Being nasty to each other is one of the unspoken rules about how girls and women are supposed to behave; one of the rigidly enforced North American standards of what constitutes femininity.

"It's everything you know but haven't been sat down and taught," as Wiseman puts it.

When she judged the two women so harshly, it was as if she was acting out one of the observations she made in her book — that girls and women can be their own worst enemies.

(Excerpt) Read more at thestar.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: psychology
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To: Maximus of Texas; feinswinesuksass

feinswinesuksass has already confirmed the American women suck comment.

She's on a roll, too.


301 posted on 03/07/2006 1:59:02 PM PST by peacebaby
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To: feinswinesuksass

My fav:

How can I miss you if you don't go away?


302 posted on 03/07/2006 2:01:37 PM PST by peacebaby
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To: feinswinesuksass

I want to learn from JR Carrington. :-)


303 posted on 03/07/2006 2:01:59 PM PST by Hardastarboard (HEY - Billy Joe! You ARE an American Idiot!)
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To: Maximus of Texas

I know, I almost typed the same thing.

Funny thing about guys who only pusue foreign women is that several of them that I know have ended up in miserable marriages with these women who tricked them with their psuedo-submissive act. Priceless.

One guy married a a Thai women who brought all of her extended family to move into his house. He was hating life very soon. The other married a Philipino woman who soon had her family working at his shop & took over the business. She was clever & even had this guy convinced she gave up medical school for him (she couldn't even spell medical). The first time I met her, she asked if I was married to my man....I told her no, we aren't ready yet....her advice to me was "just get the ring". She actually said this in front of her husband. I hated her immediately. I know she is just waiting for her husband to die.


304 posted on 03/07/2006 2:04:19 PM PST by Feiny ( "Why don't we go up to the old people's home and wax the steps? " ~ Barney Fife)
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To: Mr. Blonde
As a former sorority girl, I wish that I could disagree with you, but I can't.

I did find out that surviving a sorority was the best job preparation I could have ever taken. Working in a predominantly female field (PR and education) it can be hell out there. I'd give anything just to work with guys.

I do disagree with all the assertions that liberals are the mean, catty women. Some of the biggest cat fights I've ever seen were in churches.
305 posted on 03/07/2006 2:06:21 PM PST by BloomNTn
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To: TC Rider

You apparently did learn, well. LOL!


306 posted on 03/07/2006 2:06:21 PM PST by Search4Truth (Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God - Thomas Jefferson.)
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To: handk

We have introspection and we for sure are accountable to our standards....

That's why we aren't pursuing you :)


307 posted on 03/07/2006 2:06:23 PM PST by najida (Me arguing for logic and against emotion is like Mother Teresa becoming a pole dancer.)
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To: peacebaby
Bless your heart.

LOL! The Southern Belle Put Down. Dang, I love it.

308 posted on 03/07/2006 2:07:31 PM PST by najida (Me arguing for logic and against emotion is like Mother Teresa becoming a pole dancer.)
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To: bellas_sister

bump


309 posted on 03/07/2006 2:11:30 PM PST by bellas_sister (www.bracketfish.org)
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To: conservativebabe

I agree with you, but it's my sense that women dress...and diet...for other women, not for men.


310 posted on 03/07/2006 2:12:32 PM PST by gogeo
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To: handk

What do you hope to accomplish with that kind of provocative post? Other than to offend all American woman.

I agree that foreign women can be highly desirable to men who are looking for a traditional relationship. But what is the purpose in insulting all American women, other than to reveal your contempt for them. Do you feel better now?


311 posted on 03/07/2006 2:12:53 PM PST by Search4Truth (Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God - Thomas Jefferson.)
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To: feinswinesuksass

LOL! Can I borrow your brain for a few days?


312 posted on 03/07/2006 2:13:17 PM PST by conservativebabe
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To: gogeo

True to a large degree.


313 posted on 03/07/2006 2:14:23 PM PST by conservativebabe
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To: handk; Wolfie; chris1

FYI... - Remember I told you there were honest to goodness women haters on here - let me introduce you to "handk" -- read his post #234.


314 posted on 03/07/2006 2:15:07 PM PST by Dashing Dasher ( I prayed, 'O Lord, make my enemies ridiculous.' And God granted it.)
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To: stands2reason
The only reason my mother-in-law accepts me at all is that somehow I make her son happy, and ultimately she can live with that.

LOL. Got me one of them, too. I worshipped my father in law, we got along great, and finally got to the point where I ceased giving a damn what my mother in law thought of me. When we go to his family's things, I do the perfunctory sit with the women for the least amount of time possible and then hang with my brother in laws and nephews. Guys either like you or they don't. There is no silly middle ground of pretending to like you one minute and then stabbing you in the back the next.

315 posted on 03/07/2006 2:16:14 PM PST by ShadowDancer (No autopsy, no foul.)
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To: gogeo

I have read that women dress for women...

Sometimes I do, and sometimes I dress for men.


316 posted on 03/07/2006 2:16:53 PM PST by peacebaby
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To: handk; feinswinesuksass; RockinRight

Handk,

Please post picture of yourself in a thong.

Signed,

FReeperettes


317 posted on 03/07/2006 2:17:36 PM PST by Dashing Dasher ( I prayed, 'O Lord, make my enemies ridiculous.' And God granted it.)
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To: Dashing Dasher

Do you really want him to do that?

*shudder*


318 posted on 03/07/2006 2:18:16 PM PST by Hoodlum91 (pcottraux says I'm special!)
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To: Dashing Dasher

Why was I pinged to this? Did you think I wanted to see that?

;-)


319 posted on 03/07/2006 2:19:00 PM PST by RockinRight (Attention RNC...we're the party of Reagan, not FDR...)
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To: Dashing Dasher

ROTFL!


320 posted on 03/07/2006 2:19:00 PM PST by Search4Truth (Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God - Thomas Jefferson.)
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