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Interesting data on New York's demographics. Throughout its history, New York has changed with the times and welcomed new immigrants. The changes move out in waves to the suburbs.
1 posted on 03/07/2006 5:58:27 AM PST by HostileTerritory
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To: HostileTerritory
Whites already are in Chicago, they're 3rd.
  1. 'Hispanics'
  2. Blacks
  3. Whites

2 posted on 03/07/2006 6:03:53 AM PST by Condor51 (Better to fight for something than live for nothing - Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: Clemenza; NativeNewYorker

New York census ping.


3 posted on 03/07/2006 6:04:12 AM PST by HostileTerritory
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To: HostileTerritory

Almost makes you long for the days when there was a wall on Wall St, and pirates roamed the streets between ale-houses. ;)


5 posted on 03/07/2006 6:06:33 AM PST by Renderofveils (Qur’an 8:39 “So, fight them until all opposition ends and the only religion is Islam.”)
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To: HostileTerritory

Non-hispanic white people are already a distinct minority riding the NYC Subways, based on my not so scientific observations.


11 posted on 03/07/2006 6:20:43 AM PST by Canedawg (Two ears, one mouth)
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To: HostileTerritory; Cacique; rmlew; Torie; oceanview
No news here. Whites have been a minority in the city since the early 1980s. The increased cost of housing in the city is sending many immigrants and "people of color" into the suburbs and exurbs, which is why places like Middletown and Goshen in exurban Orange County have rapidly growing black and hispanic populations. You also have many affluent East and South Asians moving to Westchester and Nassau County.

The major trend is the fact that the NY area is increasingly inhabited by affluent whites, and immigrants of various economic levels. The folks that are leaving tend to be blue collar and low-level white collar whites, who simply can't afford to live in the tri-state area, and don't want to live two families to a house.

In terms of real estate values, NY will remain, like California, out of the reach of many people. As a result, the only folks who can live there will be those who have "made it" and those strivers (largely immigrants) who don't mind living several families to a small house.

12 posted on 03/07/2006 6:22:52 AM PST by Clemenza (President: North American Hobbit Hunters Society)
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This is what happens when you institute government program after government program that discriminates against people by their skin color - they flee.


23 posted on 03/07/2006 6:31:28 AM PST by thoughtomator (I understand Democrats' impatience; If Kerry were President, Iran would have nuked Israel by now)
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Whites have been a minority in New York City since the 1980's. But now that shift is extending to the wider metropolitan area, driven by immigration and higher birth rates among immigrants. Already, non-Hispanic whites are a minority of the metropolitan area's population younger than 15.

"New York is still the classic melting pot, with a whole diverse array of immigrants coming in, but the suburbs are now becoming part of this bigger melting pot," said William H. Frey, the Brookings Institution demographer who conducted the analysis. "The suburbs are now tasting this new diversity."

His analysis found that whites declined to 52.2 percent of the population in 2004 from 54.2 percent in 2000 in the census-defined metropolitan area, which includes the city, Long Island, the northern suburbs, northern New Jersey and northeastern Pennsylvania, but not Connecticut.

"We went down 2.1 percent from 2000 to 2004," Dr. Frey said. "If we go another 2 percent before the end of the decade, you're there." He added: "The suburbs are now contributing to this. They've all shown a decline in the percent of whites since 1990."

And herein lies the rub. When I was a kid on Long Island in the 1980s, Nassau was VERY segregated (as cyborg and I have discussed at length on other threads), with only a handful of Hispanics, and blacks segregated to Hempstead and Roosevelt. From what I understand, Nassau is increasingly Hispanic (especially on the South Shore) and Asian (Koreans and Chinese on the North Shore, East Indians all over). The descendants of the Italian, Jewish, and Irish immigrants who can't afford to live in the "exclusive" communities are simply voting with their feet.

However, wait until they get to Florida and North Carolina, and they realize that the same phenomenon is happening there as well, albeit in not as large numbers. I mean, is there ANYWHERE (outside of a handful of retirement communities) where the white population is increasing faster than that of Asians and Hispanics?

24 posted on 03/07/2006 6:33:08 AM PST by Clemenza (President: North American Hobbit Hunters Society)
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No big deal. Just as long as Conservatives don't become a minority here...

Oh, wait...
25 posted on 03/07/2006 6:33:18 AM PST by LIConFem (A fronte praecipitium, a tergo lupi.)
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I surely hope that y'all now understand why hillary finds it so easy to be re-elected senator from this poor state.


30 posted on 03/07/2006 6:36:33 AM PST by LilDarlin (Being very feminine got me this far; it will take me the rest of the way, too!)
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Just curious, but why do demographers segregate "hispanic whites" from "non-hispanic whites?" I don't recall anyone segregating non-Italian whites and non-Irish whites from Italian whites and Irish whites.


34 posted on 03/07/2006 6:42:44 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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"among the nation's 88 metropolitan areas with half a million or more people, New York is one of only three — Houston and Honolulu are the others — where the proportion of blacks, Hispanics and Asians each exceeds their share of the national population."



That sentence is clearly wrong. Only 1.6% of the residents of the Honolulu Census Designated Place, and 2.4% of the residents of Honolulu County (comprising all of Oahu), are black, compared to 12.3% of U.S. residents who are black. And Hispanics are only 4.4% of the residents of the Honolulu CDP and 9.5% of the residents of Honolulu County, but are 12.5% of the residents of the U.S. (All numbers as per the 2000 Census.)


39 posted on 03/07/2006 6:59:38 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (http://auh2orepublican.blogspot.com/)
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Anyone been to the NYC metro lately?
This survey is about 10 years late...


41 posted on 03/07/2006 7:01:23 AM PST by RadioCirca1970
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To: HostileTerritory

Would this mean whites could call themselves a "minority"? Nah. That's another word that is owned by the other races, and whites aren't allowed to use.


54 posted on 03/07/2006 7:43:53 AM PST by uncitizen
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When do the affirmative action and minority set-asides start?
59 posted on 03/07/2006 7:49:44 AM PST by Colorado Doug (Diversity is divisive. E. Pluribus Unum (Out of many, one))
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The shift would make New York the first large metropolitan area outside the South and West in which whites do not make up a majority

Hello!! Detroit is a "large metropolitan area" (6th largest in the country). Whites have been a minority in Detroit for over 20 years. I know it's hard for New Yorkers to understand that everything west of the Hudson River is not the "wild west", but Detroit is definitely outside the South and West!

60 posted on 03/07/2006 7:51:30 AM PST by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: HostileTerritory

Time to move to Idaho, Montana or South Carolina


86 posted on 03/07/2006 8:51:18 AM PST by Courdeleon02
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To: HostileTerritory

But will still be excluded under Affirmative Action. Must suffer the punishment for sins of the father I guess.


93 posted on 03/07/2006 9:00:27 AM PST by sandbar
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The shift would make New York the first large metropolitan area outside the South and West in which whites do not make up a majority, according to an analysis of 2004 Census estimates by the Brookings Institution that was released yesterday.

I don't think that Detroit is in either the South or the West.

It looks like the whites are still a plurality. In other words, the journos will add the 20% black, to the 25% Latino, to the 6% Asian, and voila, the 49% white is not a majority.

97 posted on 03/07/2006 9:05:08 AM PST by george wythe
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Will we then afford the same rights to future said minority?


110 posted on 03/07/2006 1:14:03 PM PST by Cinnamon
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Well, the outcome lies with them -- they're aborting themselves out of existence.


112 posted on 03/07/2006 1:19:30 PM PST by Dionysius (ACLU is the enemy)
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