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Mass Extinctions - A Threat From Outer Space Or Our Own Planet's Detox?
University Of Leicester ^ | 3-9-2006 | Andy Sanders

Posted on 03/09/2006 11:57:34 AM PST by blam

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1 posted on 03/09/2006 11:57:38 AM PST by blam
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To: SunkenCiv
GGG Pings.

I'm sticking with the meteorite impact theory.

2 posted on 03/09/2006 11:58:36 AM PST by blam
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To: blam

It's those geosynchronous comets dropping alien rain in India I tell ya.


3 posted on 03/09/2006 11:59:41 AM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: blam

I keep trying to tell you people that the Earth is trying to kill us. It started this fight for survival and it's about time we started fighting back.


4 posted on 03/09/2006 12:01:48 PM PST by BadAndy (I miss the days when people didn't celebrate their perversions.)
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To: blam

It all started when T-Rex's starting dumping their volkswagons and stuck with Hummers and SUVs and poluted the earth so badly that greenhouse gases increased and the ice caps melted and...


5 posted on 03/09/2006 12:08:53 PM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: blam
Any reason both couldn't be true but for different events?

The 65M years ago event looks certainly to have been caused by a meteorite impact.
Possibly one or more of the older events might have been volcanic.

What would be the effect if a large meteor hit the Yellow Stone super Volcano area?

6 posted on 03/09/2006 12:10:11 PM PST by ASA Vet (Those who talk don't know, those who know don't talk.)
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To: blam
what may actually have wiped out the dinosaurs 65 million years ago and caused other similarly cataclysmic events, aware they may end up exploding a few popular myths.

It is just a coincidence that a very large rock hit the Earth at just the time that huge volcanic events took place?

I don't think so. There probably is a causal relationship between the two events. There is still the question as to why the geologic record shows such a dramatic decrease of life right after the KT boundary layer.

7 posted on 03/09/2006 12:12:20 PM PST by Mike Darancette (In the Land of the Blind the one-eyed man is king.)
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To: ASA Vet
What would be the effect if a large meteor hit the Yellow Stone super Volcano area?

Probably pretty bad. But it is believed that an impact 17 mya caused the Yellowstone hot spot in the first place.

8 posted on 03/09/2006 12:14:51 PM PST by Mike Darancette (In the Land of the Blind the one-eyed man is king.)
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To: ASA Vet
Any reason both couldn't be true but for different events?

To the degree the article actually quotes the scientists, it doesn't seem to be a 'one size fits all' proposition in their minds.

And I don't think Alvarez ever hypothesized that meteor impacts explain every extinction, did he?

Journalists just can't get interested unless there's 'conflict', even if they have to fabricate it.

9 posted on 03/09/2006 12:20:57 PM PST by siunevada (If we learn nothing from history, what's the point of having one? - Peggy Hill)
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"But it is believed that an impact 17 mya caused the Yellowstone hot spot in the first place."

No kidding? I've never heard this before.

Now, I have heard that a comet fragment may have caused the Thera eruption in 1628BC.

10 posted on 03/09/2006 12:22:22 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

How about an impact, which not only clouds over the planet, but also triggers a lot of extra eruptions that put the noxious gases under an insulating blanket which allows both phenomena to multiply the overall effects?


11 posted on 03/09/2006 12:41:44 PM PST by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: blam

Actually the theory is you get a hotspot and flood basalt on the OPPOSITE side of the planet from the asteroid impact, through focusing of seismic energy.

It's been out there for a while, and the people behind it aren't kooks, but it's not widely accepted. There are some interesting "line ups" of large impacts with hotspots on the other side of the world.

One fly in the ointment is that it's now pretty clear that hotspots aren't perfectly stationary in the mantle with the plates moving over them; the hotspots themselves move some.


12 posted on 03/09/2006 12:43:13 PM PST by Strategerist
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Actually the idea of impacts causing a hotspot on the opposite side of the earth has been around a long time...

This is a PDF paper from Sandia National Labs about it in 1994..

http://www.osti.gov/energycitations/servlets/purl/10197028-5vKwmj/webviewable/10197028.pdf


13 posted on 03/09/2006 12:49:02 PM PST by Strategerist
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Thanks Blam. Alas, I think the KT extinction impact(s?) as well as the Ries Basin impact (circa 20 million years ago), Tunguska in 1908, and all the many others, were made by the assorted space debris that the Earth frequently contacts, and gives the old "come hither" during repeated rendezvous. It's important to use radioastronomy to detect these, because optical observation doesn't work on the sunny side of the Earth.

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14 posted on 03/09/2006 10:23:53 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Yes indeed, Civ updated his profile and links pages again, on Monday, March 6, 2006.)
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"The largest flood basalts on Earth (Siberian Traps and Deccan Traps) coincide with the largest extinctions (end-Permian, and end-Cretaceous). 'Pure coincidence?', ask Saunders and Reichow."

The iridium anomalies at various paleontological boundaries exceed the amount of iridium available in the nether regions of the Earth, and yet iridium is common in extraterrestrial trash. 'Pure coincidence?' asks Blam, Civ, and anyone else with functioning brain cells.


15 posted on 03/09/2006 10:28:57 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Yes indeed, Civ updated his profile and links pages again, on Monday, March 6, 2006.)
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To: blam

Hummmmm, another theory, wonder which one is right.


16 posted on 03/10/2006 4:04:27 AM PST by Dustbunny (Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. - Will Rogers)
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To: blam
I doubt there is one cause.
Some mass extinctions may be caused by basaltic eruptions, some by meteoric impact, and some by solar fluctuation or sauropod farts.

So9

17 posted on 03/10/2006 5:22:43 AM PST by Servant of the 9 (" I am just going outside, and may be some time.")
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To: Servant of the 9
Does this mean Gary Larson was wrong?


18 posted on 03/10/2006 7:58:21 AM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: blam
I'm sticking with the meteorite impact theory.

One thing seldom mentioned, is that the Chixulub impact was right on the edge of the coast.

Imaging how much steam would be generated as a ocean tried to pour into a 120 mile wide white hot crater.

It's the recipe for a pastureized plannet...

19 posted on 03/10/2006 8:00:57 AM PST by null and void (I nominate Sept 11th: "National Moderate Muslim Day of Tacit Approval". - Mr. Rational, paraphrased)
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And I don't think Alvarez ever hypothesized that meteor impacts explain every extinction, did he?

No, but in T-Rex and the Crater of Doom, he did suggest that geologists should look for more evidence of giant impacts at extinction boundaries.

Very good book BTW...

20 posted on 03/10/2006 8:05:27 AM PST by null and void (I nominate Sept 11th: "National Moderate Muslim Day of Tacit Approval". - Mr. Rational, paraphrased)
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