You got me right.
You've got me listed well enough as can be! To expand on my previous comments slightly, my view is that "ultimate reality" or "all that there is" (or however one wants to put it) must be logically coherent. Therefore, you cannot have a "beginning" and you cannot have an "end" and you cannot have anything "beyond" and so on and so forth. In other words, in the grandest plane of existence, you could never ask a question like "What came before the Big Bang?" or "Where would you be if you stood at the edge of the universe and took one more step?"
Do you see where I'm going with that? Within the four dimensions that we are able to conceptualize a closed system is not possible. No matter how far back you unwind time there will always be a second beforehand; no matter how for down you wind up time there will always be a second afterward; and no matter how far out you go in space there will always be an inch further.
So, as I envision things, there must be a grander reality in which such paradoxes don't exist. Where everything clearly comes from something and from somewhere and there is nothing unbounded. That is inconceivable and incoherent in this universe and in the reality that we can perceive, so for that reason I conclude that there is a grander multiverse, of whatever nature that we cannot even begin to conceptualize. And so, having concluded that I see no reason why this would ever end. In fact, by definition it cannot end.
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Once again....unbelievably well done!
You got me right.
Looks like a heck of a lot of work. Great job again!
I don't look for things to get better, only worse. End times? Looks like it to me.
I've finally decided I am aligned with:
Knitting a Conundrum - I believe that no matter what we say, argue, believe or do, God will do what he wants to do, in his way, and in his time. Our job is to be watchful servants, always ready for his coming.
Now. Had I know you were going to include the humor...
I'd have posted this earlier ; )
Early one glorious summer evening, as the sun was setting, I made haste to a special out-of-town commemoration service at one of my denomination's churches for the anniversary of an ordination. I missed a turn, had to go around the block, and needed a bathroom in the worst way. I pulled up on the side of the church, in a parking space on the street (easily) because there were no other vehicles in sight. As my eyes traveled to the church itself, I saw no lights, no people, no nothing. All that lay before me was a dark, empty church in the twilight.
I'd spotted a gas station while zipping around the block and after a brief puzzled hesitation wondered if I had my date and time correct. I made a beeline for the gas station, grabbed the bathroom key, took care of business and as I returned it to the attendant, I calmly asked about the church. He explained there was a smaller church a few blocks over, and I realized not only had I forgotten there were two churches in that town, but I'd just assumed the service was at the big church. I told the attendant how quiet, and still and EMPTY the big church was, and how eerie it had felt in the twilight -when I'd been expecting to find lights and lots of people. He laughingly supposed I'd had to wonder if the rapture had taken place and I'd been left behind : )
Thank you, Alamo-Girl! You got it!
I actually read all the choices and thought about them before I made my statement, but ...
I sure don't want to be left behind on the rapture, which I believe is pre-trib.
I am, nevertheless, compelled to clarify:
At some point the most heinous of the angels who rebelled against The Lord prior to The Fall of Man (if they're not there already) will greet them.Some of the lizard's most nepharious minions are presently held in bondage of darkeness in hell (I can't even imagine what that'd be like, i.e., to be imprisoned in hell). Nevertheless, the entire fallen angelic host are to be released from the Abyss and cast into the Lake of Fire. Satan specificly is sent there at Christ's second coming (to join the Beast and False Prophet already there) as will be the rest of his minions. Only the most nepharious of Satan's cohorts are presently in bondage (the rest are free to roam about and cause a ruckus). One has to wonder about that, in that these creatures have been pent up for millenia.
Smack in the middle of The Great Tribulation, the Abyss is opened, and the chief of the lizard's protagonists is let loose (along with hordes of its underlings) to wreak havok upon the world for 5 months. No damage to the earth will be caused, but the sun and air will be darkened from the smoke emminating from The Pit. The name of this angel is Abbadon (or in the Greek Apollyon. It and its helpers are a wee bit ticked off (and have a lot of catching up to do)). Their sole objective is purely torment (letting loose a little bit of frustration for their confinement). They're so successfull in this regard, that men seek comfort in death (but can NOT find solace there). It trully will be Night of the Living Dead excepting it be writ large, i.e., for 5 months duration.
A good analogy of what occurs next during this period would be akin to that of a B-52 carpet bombing fire mission. The angel unlocks the Abyss about 1 1/4 years post-Abomination of Desolation (where the Beast sets itself on the throne in the Temple and demands it be worshipped) or about 4 3/4 years after tbe signing of the Covenant.
The final events that occur in The Great Tribulation are an earthquake and a hailstorm of dinner plate sized hailstones. I won't elaborate on the hailstorm, but the earthquake needs some: it has been theorized that an earthquake measuring 10 on the Richter scale would be felt all over the world. I implore people to read up on the Great New Madrid earthquake back in the 1830's. Church bells rang in Toronto as a result of it. They're not sure how large that earthquake was, but some estimates are about 9.5 My point is that the first hand accounts near the epicenter are staggering to the devastation and destruction that quake caused.
There will be angels flying through the heavens preaching to the earth, and still people will reject God's Word. The Two Prophets will proselytize The Word for at least 3 1/4 years (having the power to call fire down from heaven). Nevertheless, they will be martyred, their bodies lying in the streets for 3 1/2 days, and then will suddenly spring to life and ascend into heaven (a voice coming from there calling them hither). Clearly by this time something supernatural is going on, and yet people will still refuse to come to Him (and in fact curse and blashpeme Him for their troubles).
The final event of the Tribulation is the second second-coming of Christ at the Battle of Armageddon. The carnage caused there will result in the gore of battle rising to a horses bridle across a distance of 1600 furlongs (a furlong being a standard horse racing stadium race-track). Napoleon is on record after viewing the Plains of Meggidon, "A million men could be maneuvered here."
Mind you, this event is merely the first chapter of Christ's second coming, because at that time He really didn't actually come yet, in that the Biblical account intimates that He appears at the battle on top of a cloud. Furthermore, all people of the world become aware simultaneously that He's arrived. That notwithstanding, Christ's second second-coming is official when His feet touch the Mount of Olives, cleaving it in two, and He walking through the valley thus created, into the city, and seating himself upon the throne in The Temple. What follows next is a 75 day period of judgement and then 1000 years of environmental rebirth, global peace, love and tranquility unsurpassed and unknown since the beginning of history (or at least since Man was kicked out of the Garden).
I pray that the Holy Spirit compells you to look into the Truth, and that this hasn't merely unprofitable intellectual fullfillment. That being said, I will concede that the heart can't accept what the head doesn't know.
"Verily, verily, I say unto you, he that believeth upon me has everlasting life." - Jn 6:47 (cf. 6:40, 27, 54; et ali)
WOW, girl, have you EVER put in some effort, here. Of course, having seen other of your webpages, (Florida recount?) this is but a trifle.
You have my entry thus:
HKMk23 (leans toward but could also be mid or post)
I'd make this minor change:
HKMk23 (leans toward but could also be mid)
The Post-trib scenario has the faithful raptured just in time to change into their white robes and return immediately with a triumphant Christ. I just can't buy it.
Sorry, I had to be off-line for a few days. You got me on their correctly. Thanks.