Posted on 03/11/2006 4:07:10 AM PST by jmq
Edited on 03/11/2006 7:12:18 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
Did you ever hear of Derek Arnold and Ted Skinner who went to help the Bosnian Muslims army, but were killed by Mujahideen who suspected them of being spies?
"There are efforts being made now to connect the two situations."
OPERATION CYA HAS ONLY JUST BEGUN.
There are no photos of damage to its famous walls. The Croats started shooting out at the Yugoslav navy and had their own forces in Vukovar - this came out at the trial - and I think they did admit to at least several hundred.
The navy commander was an ethnic Slovene.
The Croats burned tires and this created photos to make things look worse.
Vukovar was started by the Croats, under Tomislav Mercep.
In Serbia, no Croats were killed, but Croatia wanted to kill off its Serb population and start trouble. Serbs were a major part of Vukovar so the Croats initiated the murders.
Serbs were being arrested by the Croat police to be tortured and killed. There are photos of their bodies in the Danube.
The Muslims of Sarajevo drew first blood when they fired on a Sarajevo Serb wedding party, and killed the father of the groom and injured others.
After this Serbs put up barracades and the city became DIVIDED.
The front line ran near the city's center near the infamous Holiday Inn. Most of the fighting was on the frontline between soldiers. The Muslims had 10s of thousands of soldiers and paramilitary in Sarajevo.
Muslims had ex-cons in charge of their forces in 1992 who murdered Sarajevo Serb civilians and tortured them in jails. The Serb population has about been wiped out of Sarajevo - plunging by 150,000. The Muslims used their victim PR to get the city all to themselves, so now the formerly multiethnic city is practically pure Muslim - 90-95% and rising.
Should be Dubrovnik. The Croats had their forces there who were firing as well. Mainly roof tile damage was what happened in Dubrovnik. The money sent to repair Dubrovnik was being spent on old earthquake damage. There was an earthquake in the late '70s. So, basically they didn't have enough war damage to repair, so they put the money to use on old pre-war damage.
http://www.un.org/icty/transe14-2/991118it.htm
Q. You yourself had some dealings with Mujahedins; isn't that correct, sir? You were actually tasked by your commanding officer, Lieutenant-Colonel Stewart, to investigate the execution-style murders of two British mercenaries, Derek Arnold and Ted Skinner, on the 3rd of February, correct?
A. That's correct.
Q. And they had been executed by Mujahedins, had they not?
A. That was our assessment, yes.
http://www.cfiva.org/cfiva/remembrances/index.cfm?fuseaction=details&bookID=42
Ted Skinner was thirty-seven years old. He travelled to Bosnia via Split in October 1992 determined to help the Muslims, sickened by the ethnic cleansing being carried out against them. He joined the Army of Bosnia-Hercegovina (ABiH) and made his way to Travnik in the mountains of central Bosnia where he was commissioned and promoted Captain (satnik). He had a background in the British Army and was well known to the British UNPROFOR soldiers based in Travnik and at Vitez, the Cheshire Regiment. Their commanding officer Lieutenant-Colonel Bob Stewart knew him and respected Ted more than any other International Volunteer he came across in the war, writing about Ted and his friend Derek Arnold (see separate entry) in his book 'Broken Lives.'
Ted was involved in many actions and helped to guide the Britsh Army’s first food convoy to starving Bosnians in the city of Tuzla. As well as training Bosnian soldiers and leading reconnaissance patrols he acted as an unofficial scout for the Cheshires, guiding them through minefields and artillery bombardments. There was even a rumour that he had helped SAS teams gather intelligence on the Serb forces. It was Ted also who notified the British commander of the plight of 2,000 Muslims trapped in the village of Karola.
Ted and Derek were abducted from the flat they shared at Travnik around midnight on the 5th February 1993 by unknown assailants. They were taken a few miles west to the village of Turbe where they were later found in a field with their hands tied behind their backs and shot through the head. They had been tortured. Both their passports were found at the flat in Travnik. The story was widely and inaccurately reported in the media with much contradiction of details and circumstances. Local Bosnians believed Ted and Derek were kidnapped by Islamic fundamentalists that had recently arrived in the area. Ted had passed on information about Muslim operations and his frequent visits to the British UNPROFOR base may have aroused suspicions amongst the fundamentalists who would in any case have seen him as a threat to their influence. Ted was however loved and respected by the local Bosnians with whom he fought. He was buried with Arnold in a cemetery in Zenica, initially with a Muslim headboard but soon after British UNPROFOR replaced it with a cross and conducted a Christian memorial ceremony.
Do you think that it is unusual/unheard of to use provocation to justify a war?
Do you think that Sebian trust in democratic West and in integrity of free media was idiotic?
Maybe this was the problem, possibly the fascist or Islamist enemies of Serbs were so cynical and contemptuous of the West that they had no scruples to lie, to manipulate, to bribe knowing that only by cheating they can win.
...Milosevic also would have discussed how the U.S. supports a regime in Kosovo that has systematically expelled Serbs, Romas, and other ethnic minorities from their homes and burned down scores of churches...
In his opening statement, Milosevic alluded to some of the information he would introduce during his defense.
"In 1998 when [Clinton envoy Richard] Holbrooke visited us in Belgrade, we told him the information we had at our disposal, that in Northern Albania the KLA is being aided by Osama bin Laden, that he was arming, training, and preparing the members of this terrorist organization in Albania. However, they decided to cooperate with the KLA and indirectly, therefore, with bin Laden, although before that he had bombed the embassies in Kenya and Tanzania [and] had already declared war."
Milosevic concluded that "one day all this will have to come to light, these links."
I thought all the muslim peoples were cute and cuddly victims who were nice to little puppies...
This is old news--it's clogging up the bandwidth..Jerk the thread!
Milosevic concluded that "one day all this will have to come to light, these links."
So, twice the medical team engaged by the court at The Hague gave this man the wrong medication. In total four defendants/witnesses have died in costudy...
And we are supposed to forget what Milosivic said:
"In 1998 when [Clinton envoy Richard] Holbrooke visited us in Belgrade, we told him the information we had at our disposal, that in Northern Albania the KLA is being aided by Osama bin Laden, that he was arming, training, and preparing the members of this terrorist organization in Albania. However, they decided to cooperate with the KLA and indirectly, therefore, with bin Laden, although before that he had bombed the embassies in Kenya and Tanzania [and] had already declared war."
And that the US supported a regime in Kosovo that had sytematically expelled Serbs, Romas, and other ethnic minorities from their homes and burned down scores of churches...
TO KEEP THE MUSLIMS HAPPY! (But it didn't, they want the whole friggen world, not just Kosovo!)
Oh dear.
"Well I suppose it really doesn't matter if it was Markdale or not, does it?"
Well, that's funny, in a Comical Ali kind of way, because it's Markale, not Markdale.
But even then, you STILL don't quite get it. The point is, Irate Tommy, that it really was a MUSLIM act, so your Comical Ali reference only points fun at your own ignorance.
But as you've already told us, you're a bit narked.
Do you think Hague cares about Russian opinion? I think not. Lavrov's statment is just another example of megalomania of Russian chekists.
This is United Nations tribunal ! It is not Dutch or NATO tribunal and Russia is one of the five permanent members of the Security Council on which this tribunal is based.
Hijacking this tribunal by some self appointed cliques is a further mockery of the justice and law.
thanks for ping. Finally dead, end of the trial. Lawyers deeply saddened.
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