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Something New...(Condi on Saddam Docs)
The Weekly Standard ^ | 3-27-06 | Stephen F. Hayes

Posted on 03/27/2006 6:13:45 AM PST by eyespysomething

Something New . . . Condoleezza Rice sees significance in the Saddam documents. by Stephen F. Hayes 03/27/2006 12:00:00 AM

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SECRETARY OF STATE CONDOLEEZZA RICE on Sunday contradicted claims from the Office of the Director of National Intelligence that documents captured in postwar Iraq and now being posted on the Internet will not contain anything new or significant.

"We're going to find some important and surprising things in these documents," Rice said in an appearance on NBC's Meet the Press.

Rice also addressed revelations, important but not surprising, that former Russian ambassador to Iraq, Vladimir Teterenko, passed the U.S. war plan to Iraq shortly before the war began. The charges, based largely on two Iraqi documents captured in postwar Iraq, came in a report issued by the Joint Forces Command in Norfolk, Virginia, and released by the Pentagon late last week. Rice said she is not in a position to confirm or deny the claims but vowed to take "a hard look at the reports" of Russian betrayal.

The revelations about the Russians will be the subject of discussions this week between Bush administration officials and their Russian counterparts. "We will certainly raise it with the Russians," Rice said.

The Russian government has already denied the charges. "Similar, baseless accusations concerning Russia's intelligence have been made more than once," Russian Foreign Intelligence Service spokesman Boris Labusov said. "We don't consider it necessary to comment on such fabrications."

But Labusov has not always found such allegations baseless. In 2003 Labusov confirmed reports, based on captured Iraqi documents, that the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service was training Iraqi Intelligence operatives as late as September 2002. This is how the San Francisco Chronicle, which broke the story on April 13, 2003, reported the findings:

A Moscow-based organization was training Iraqi intelligence agents as recently as last September--at the same time Russia was resisting the Bush administration's push for a tough stand against Saddam Hussein's regime, Iraqi documents discovered by The Chronicle show.

The documents found Thursday and Friday in a Baghdad office of the Mukhabarat, the Iraqi secret police, indicate that at least five agents graduated Sept. 15 from a two-week course in surveillance and eavesdropping techniques, according to certificates issued to the Iraqi agents by the "Special Training Center" in Moscow.

The "Moscow-based organization," it turns out, was the SVR, Russia's Foreign Intelligence Service:

Russian intelligence officials have confirmed that Iraqi spies received training in specialized counterintelligence techniques in Moscow last fall--training that appears to violate the United Nations resolution barring military and security assistance to Iraq.

A spokesman for the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR), Boris Labusov, acknowledged that Iraqi secret police agents had been trained by his agency but said the training was for nonmilitary purposes, such as fighting crime and terrorism.

Said Labusov: "The SVR does not refuse cooperation with secret services of different countries in the areas of counter-terrorism and war, fighting drug traffic and investigating the illegal trade of weapons."

The Chronicle article continues:

However, it seems likely that the Iraqi agents who were trained at the Moscow center were using their skills for other purposes. Found in the same Mukhabarat office with their personnel files and graduation certificates were a host of other documents, including orders for wiretaps and for break-ins at such sites as the Iranian Embassy, the five-star al-Mansour Hotel and private doctors' offices.

Rice on Sunday missed an opportunity to highlight two other significant revelations from captured Iraqi documents. The "Iraqi Perspectives Project" study, which ignited the public discussion of Russia and Iraq, also reveals that beginning in 1998 Saddam Hussein's intelligence services began training "non-Iraqi Arab volunteers" at camps in Iraq.

Another captured document details the plan of the Iraqi Intelligence Service to invigorate its relations with Saudi opposition groups, including one headed by Osama bin Laden. According to that document, which a Pentagon task force determined "appears authentic," bin Laden requested assistance from the Iraqi regime on its anti-Saudi propaganda efforts and with attacks on U.S. troops in Saudi Arabia. The documents indicate that Iraq agreed to rebroadcast al Qaeda propaganda and left open the possibility of working with al Qaeda on attacks.

Stephen F. Hayes is a senior writer at The Weekly Standard.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: condi; intelligence; iraq; iraqiintelligence; prewardocs; russertsforsaddam; russia; saddamhussein; stephenshayes; waronterror
SECRETARY OF STATE CONDOLEEZZA RICE on Sunday contradicted claims from the Office of the Director of National Intelligence that documents captured in postwar Iraq and now being posted on the Internet will not contain anything new or significant.
1 posted on 03/27/2006 6:13:50 AM PST by eyespysomething
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To: Chena; Valin; M. Thatcher; DocRock; Calpernia; Madame Dufarge; Txsleuth; Peach; SwatTeam; ...
Something New...(Condi on Saddam Docs)

Release/Translation of Classified PreWar Docs ping. If you want to be added or removed to the ping list, please Freepmail me.

Please add the keyword prewardocs to any articles pertaining to this subject.

Operation Iraqi Freedom Documents

Also here

Documents from the Harmony Database

2 posted on 03/27/2006 6:14:58 AM PST by eyespysomething
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To: eyespysomething
"We're going to find some important and surprising things in these documents," Rice said in an appearance on NBC's Meet the Press.

I think we already have.

3 posted on 03/27/2006 6:15:42 AM PST by SittinYonder (That's how I saw it, and see it still.)
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To: SittinYonder

Condi may not follow FR, lol.


4 posted on 03/27/2006 6:17:07 AM PST by eyespysomething
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To: jveritas

pingaroonie


5 posted on 03/27/2006 6:19:48 AM PST by thoughtomator (Pacifism is objectively pro-terrorist)
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To: eyespysomething
Condi may not follow FR, lol.

She should be on your ping list. I'll try pinging her ...

Before you may post this message, the following must be corrected:
Could not find anybody named 'Condoleeza'

Oh well :-(

6 posted on 03/27/2006 6:30:59 AM PST by SittinYonder (That's how I saw it, and see it still.)
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To: eyespysomething; MadIvan
Yeah, John Negroponte has some serious 'splaining' to do...

Meanwhile, we need to have the President and Condi ALSO come clean with the Congress and American people about the degree of excessive reliance and trust extended by them to "Pooty-Poot":

Rice also addressed revelations, important but not surprising, that former Russian ambassador to Iraq, Vladimir Teterenko, passed the U.S. war plan to Iraq shortly before the war began. ..."We will certainly raise it with the Russians," Secretary Rice said.

7 posted on 03/27/2006 7:15:12 AM PST by Paul Ross (Hitting bullets with bullets successfully for 35 years!)
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To: eyespysomething

8 posted on 03/27/2006 7:15:55 AM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: ducks1944; Ragtime Cowgirl; Alamo-Girl; ziggy_dlo; TrueBeliever9; maestro; TEXOKIE; My back yard; ..
"We're going to find some important and surprising things in these documents," Rice said in an appearance on NBC's Meet the Press.

Rice also addressed revelations, important but not surprising, that former Russian ambassador to Iraq, Vladimir Teterenko, passed the U.S. war plan to Iraq shortly before the war began. The charges, based largely on two Iraqi documents captured in postwar Iraq, came in a report issued by the Joint Forces Command in Norfolk, Virginia, and released by the Pentagon late last week. Rice said she is not in a position to confirm or deny the claims but vowed to take "a hard look at the reports" of Russian betrayal.

9 posted on 03/27/2006 7:39:19 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: BenLurkin

If I had a daughter, Secretary Rice would be one of her role models.


10 posted on 03/27/2006 7:42:13 AM PST by eyespysomething
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To: eyespysomething
"We're going to find some important and surprising things in these documents," Rice said in an appearance on NBC's Meet the Press.

Keep the focus on the documents until the sleeping masses wake up and say, "WHAT documents?" and until the media, at large, is forced to report about the documents, more deliberately, instead of the fly-by way that they have been doing.

More, more, more!

11 posted on 03/27/2006 7:57:22 AM PST by Shelayne
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To: eyespysomething
Condi may not follow FR, lol.

I'd be wiling to bet that she does.

12 posted on 03/27/2006 8:18:33 AM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (A Liberal: One who demands half of your pie, because he didn't bake one.)
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To: eyespysomething
"We're going to find some important and surprising things in these documents," Rice said in an appearance on NBC's Meet the Press.

Sounds like she knows something.....
13 posted on 03/27/2006 9:04:12 AM PST by baseballmom
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To: eyespysomething; Calpernia

Bump.


14 posted on 03/27/2006 9:13:39 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny (TODAY WOULD BE A GOOD DAY FOR LOTS OF HEAVY PRAYING, THE WORLD NEEDS YOUR PRAYERS.)
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To: baseballmom

Yes it does.


15 posted on 03/27/2006 9:14:58 AM PST by eyespysomething
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To: eyespysomething

bump

bump

bump!


16 posted on 03/27/2006 9:22:03 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

Thanks for the ping!


17 posted on 03/27/2006 12:57:17 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Calpernia

bttt


18 posted on 03/27/2006 1:18:28 PM PST by txhurl
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To: Calpernia
According to that document, which a Pentagon task force determined "appears authentic," bin Laden requested assistance from the Iraqi regime on its anti-Saudi propaganda efforts and with attacks on U.S. troops in Saudi Arabia

But, but...the Democrats and the NY Slimes repeatedly told us there were NO connections between Iraq/Saddam and AQ.

/whiney voice

19 posted on 03/27/2006 2:16:42 PM PST by prairiebreeze (Censure Feingold!!)
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To: prairiebreeze

20 posted on 03/27/2006 2:18:29 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
Condi may not follow FR, lol. I'd be wiling to bet that she does.

You'd be surprised who reads FR,...but I was sworn to secrecy. I can say however that a whole bunch Congressional staff check here on a regular basis. They use it as a newswire kind of tool, always lurking, never saying a peep.

21 posted on 03/27/2006 4:16:27 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: ImaTexan

ping


22 posted on 03/27/2006 4:19:21 PM PST by bjcintennessee (Don't Sweat the Small Stuff)
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To: BenLurkin
One mighty smart lady - sure makes the libTarts look like the dumb bunnies rats they are.


23 posted on 03/27/2006 4:38:16 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: eyespysomething

I've said it before, but we'll keep seeing evidence pile up, day by day, regarding Russia/China involvement in world events. I want to believe they've turned over a new leaf as much as the next guy, but it's just not logical.

(1) Russia knew there were no weapons, or helped Saddam remove them. (Remember the Russian convoy that was "accidentally" fired upon while leaving Baghdad in the early days of the war? I wonder what other documents were in this convoy.)

(2) Russian Special Forces fed the US intelligence behind the scenes to "encourage" us into war, while publicly taking an opposite position. And now it looks like they were also spying on us at the same time and feeding critical information to Sadaam.

(3) They knew that when no weapons were found, the US's credibility in the world would be greatly diminished and Russia's credibility would be greatly enhanced by saying "we told you not to go to war."

Remember we're dealing with chess players here, and my gut tells me there's much more to this story than meets the eye. Iraq was a client state of Russia, supplying most, if not all, of the weapons used against our troops. Why is it so shocking to think that Russia had a strategic interest in goading us into war, undermining our efforts while we were there, so as to weaken our military and diminish our credibility in the world.

A very dangerous game is afoot, I hope our politicians wake up. Much more dangerous than Vietnam ever was...


24 posted on 03/27/2006 4:59:49 PM PST by sfrepub
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To: eyespysomething

Thanx for the ping. "... also reveals that beginning in 1998 Saddam Hussein's intelligence services began training "non-Iraqi Arab volunteers" at camps in Iraq." You may recall Ollie North --as our troops overran Salman Pak-- noting that boxes of documents had been found, then the entire topic was squelched. I wonder ... a modern jet fuselage, a modern european style train ... what kind of training was occurring again? Counter-terrorism? What a pile of stinking horse pucky that explanation is, as 911 and the Madrid bombings should tell us!


25 posted on 03/27/2006 6:49:58 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

"I'd be wiling to bet that she does."

If so, then when will she respond to my proposal?


26 posted on 03/27/2006 10:06:18 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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