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Thomas Sowell: Guests or Gate Crashers?
Creator's Syndicate ^ | March 28, 2006 | Dr. Thomas Sowell

Posted on 03/27/2006 9:08:57 PM PST by RWR8189

Immigration is yet another issue which we seem unable to discuss rationally -- in part because words have been twisted beyond recognition in political rhetoric.

We can't even call illegal immigrants "illegal immigrants." The politically correct evasion is "undocumented workers."

Do American citizens go around carrying documents with them when they work or apply for work? Most Americans are undocumented workers but they are not illegal immigrants. There is a difference.

The Bush administration is pushing a program to legalize "guest workers." But what is a guest? Someone you have invited. People who force their way into your home without your permission are called gate crashers.

If truth-in-packaging laws applied to politics, the Bush guest worker program would have to be called a "gate-crasher worker" program. The President's proposal would solve the problem of illegal immigration by legalizing it after the fact.

We could solve the problem of all illegal activity anywhere by legalizing it. Why use this approach only with immigration? Why should any of us pay a speeding ticket if immigration scofflaws are legalized after the fact for committing a federal crime?

Most of the arguments for not enforcing our immigration laws are exercises in frivolous rhetoric and slippery sophistry, rather than serious arguments that will stand up under scrutiny.

How often have we heard that illegal immigrants "take jobs that Americans will not do"? What is missing in this argument is what is crucial in any economic argument: price.

Americans will not take many jobs at their current pay levels -- and those pay levels will not rise so long as poverty-stricken immigrants are willing to take those jobs.

If Mexican journalists were flooding into the United States and taking jobs as reporters and editors at half the pay being earned by American reporters and editors, maybe people in the media would understand why the argument about "taking jobs that Americans don't want" is such nonsense.

Another variation on the same theme is that we "need" the millions of illegal aliens already in the United States. "Need" is another word that blithely ignores prices.

If jet planes were on sale for a thousand dollars each, I would probably "need" a couple of them -- an extra one to fly when the first one needed repair or maintenance. But since these planes cost millions of dollars, I don't even "need" one.

There is no fixed amount of "need," independently of prices, whether with planes or workers.

None of the rhetoric and sophistry that we hear about immigration deals with the plain and ugly reality: Politicians are afraid of losing the Hispanic vote and businesses want cheap labor.

What millions of other Americans want has been brushed aside, as if they don't count, and they have been soothed with pious words. But now the voters are getting fed up, which is why there are immigration bills in Congress.

The old inevitability ploy is often trotted out in immigration debates: It is not possible to either keep out illegal immigrants or to expel the ones already here.

If you mean stopping every single illegal immigrant from getting in or expelling every single illegal immigrant who is already here, that may well be true. But does the fact that we cannot prevent every single murder cause us to stop enforcing the laws against murder?

Since existing immigration laws are not being enforced, how can anyone say that it would not do any good to try? People who get caught illegally crossing the border into the United States pay no penalty whatever. They are sent back home and can try again.

What if bank robbers who were caught were simply told to give the money back and not do it again? What if murderers who were caught were turned loose and warned not to kill again? Would that be proof that it is futile to take action, when no action was taken?

Let's hope the immigration bills before Congress can at least get an honest debate, instead of the word games we have been hearing for too long.

Copyright 2006 Creators Syndicate



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cheaplaborforgop; illegalimmigrants; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigrants; mexico; reconquesta; scamnesty; sowell; thomassowell; votesfordems
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To: reluctantwarrior

And they didn't support us when it came to Iraq either. And didn't a whole stadium cheer about something related to 9/11? Were they chanting Osama? I can't remember.


21 posted on 03/27/2006 9:46:37 PM PST by beaversmom
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To: webboy45
Guest status will require them to register so we can then keep tract of them.

Requiring them to register won't work any better than requiring law abiding citizens to register guns. Doesnt keep criminals from having them. And these aliens are criminals as they broke the law just by coming here illegally. So..what makes you think they will register just because they are supposed to?
22 posted on 03/27/2006 9:48:37 PM PST by D1X1E (The ones protesting the war due to loss of life seem to be the same ones supporting abortion.)
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To: sageb1
I'd like to get her a Thomas Sowell book. Does anyone here have a favorite?

First:
Basic Economics: A Citizen's Guide to the Economy
Barbarians Inside the Gates.

Then any of his * and Cultures

23 posted on 03/27/2006 9:48:42 PM PST by dread78645 (Sorry Mr. Franklin, We couldn't keep it.)
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To: RWR8189

Thanks for posting Dr. Sowell!


24 posted on 03/27/2006 9:54:51 PM PST by WatchingInAmazement ("Nothing is more expensive than cheap labor," prof. Vernon Briggs, labor economist Cornell Un.)
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To: webboy45

If we do not deal with it now, someday they will deal it out to us.


25 posted on 03/27/2006 9:58:00 PM PST by Ursus arctos horribilis
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To: RWR8189
Thanks for posting Sowell's article. He is always great. The fact is that most people in the US want immigration laws enforced and illegals deported.

It is the media that covers up that fact and makes it appear that it is racist to want the laws of our country obeyed.

Also, the politicians are listening to the criminals, rather than the taxpaying citizens. It is a joke--we now have representation for the non-tax-paying illegals.

26 posted on 03/27/2006 10:47:49 PM PST by savagesusie
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To: RWR8189
Nothing will get done. Our politicians are afraid of offending Hispanic voters and of their big business contributions getting cut off. So we'll have more gate crashers entering our national house uninvited. The ugly truth is we have no intention of enforcing our immigration laws. There are just too many toes serious enforcement would step upon.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

27 posted on 03/27/2006 11:19:32 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: reluctantwarrior

phu## Rush/


28 posted on 03/27/2006 11:38:43 PM PST by jeremiah (How much did we get for that rope?)
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To: RWR8189
My favorite part is Michael Medveds argument, "they own houses, and pay taxes" how can you tell them to leave?

If they own a house, they commited fraud, if they are paying taxes, they are commiting perjury.....both FELONIES.

29 posted on 03/27/2006 11:41:49 PM PST by jeremiah (How much did we get for that rope?)
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To: RWR8189
"How often have we heard that illegal immigrants "take jobs that Americans will not do"? What is missing in this argument is what is crucial in any economic argument: price.

Americans will not take many jobs at their current pay levels -- and those pay levels will not rise so long as poverty-stricken immigrants are willing to take those jobs."

I thought this today (having read Sowell's Basic Economics and Applied Economics). If we deported every illegal, whatever work they were doing would suddenly have a huge shortage of workers. Because of supply and demand, the rate of pay to do those jobs would go up -- up closer to what Americans need for their standard of living.
30 posted on 03/27/2006 11:43:18 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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To: webboy45

And what if they don't?


31 posted on 03/27/2006 11:43:53 PM PST by Exton1
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To: webboy45

And what if they don't?


32 posted on 03/27/2006 11:43:56 PM PST by Exton1
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To: SUSSA

33 posted on 03/27/2006 11:46:01 PM PST by cartoonistx
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To: webboy45
In ten years what do we do with the 10 million new illegals? We sure as hell won't get rid of them. And we sure as hell won't have any legislators fighting for America, because all of these gate-crashers will be voting Democrats into office who sympathize with their "plight."

By the way, Reagan tried this in the 80's. It failed and that's why we're facing the issue again.
34 posted on 03/27/2006 11:48:36 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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To: BamaGirl
Read "Basic Economics" and "Applied Economics" (both by Sowell), in that order. If you only read one, then read Basics, as Applied goes over much of Basics but in more detail.
35 posted on 03/27/2006 11:50:44 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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To: RWR8189

BTTT

Sowell doesn't have to worry about being called racist

not that he would care


36 posted on 03/27/2006 11:53:16 PM PST by wardaddy (you get older and you realize "tired" and "sleepy" are way different)
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To: Jaysun
I agree for the most part. But I disagree with him on the issue of unlimited offshoring.

And, to be honest and risk being flamed here, I find his support of offshoring (even on-shore offshoring) to be incongruous with his argument against illegal aliens working low-lever jobs. According to his offshoring theory, the illegal aliens who are working here are actually creating more jobs at higher levels for Americans. We know they're not, but that's his argument in supporting programs like NAFTA and offshoring.
37 posted on 03/27/2006 11:53:49 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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To: Prokopton; PhilDragoo
If we don't want to deal with the problem no amount of semantic gymnastics such as "guest status" will have any effect. The problem will only fester and grow

Mexico’s Southern Flank: a Crime-Ridden “Third U.S. Border”

Excerpt:
The most notorious gang, often likened to the Crips and the Bloods of Los Angeles, is the Mara Salvatruchas, composed chiefly of former members of the Salvadoran army who have been deported from Los Angeles and other American cities. These tattooed hoodlums, who number in the tens of thousands, style themselves as “migrant hunters.” They rob, mutilate, and murder the illegal aliens who jump off northbound trains approaching checkpoints at night. Aliens remaining on the “trains of death” often clamor about the box cars, falling off or getting crushed in the wheels. The bloodthirsty Maras also carry out car thefts and kidnappings, according to a Catholic immigrant-aid committee.

38 posted on 03/28/2006 1:59:47 AM PST by Parrot_was_devastating
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To: sageb1

I liked the Search for Cosmic Justice.


39 posted on 03/28/2006 2:38:48 AM PST by patj
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To: sageb1
Both "Basic Economics" and "Applied Economics" are excellent books. Easy for a non-economist to understand.

For more socioeconomic commentary, "The Vision Of The Anointed" is a good one.
40 posted on 03/28/2006 2:58:31 AM PST by PogySailor (CPL PogySailor coming home from Iraq in April!)
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