Posted on 03/27/2006 9:12:18 PM PST by furquhart
I'm probably a little early, but I see on Fox that they're already showing the ritual votes of the leaders, etc.
I started ranting about getting a Wall about 4 years before Sharon on this very site. It seemed just so well, obvious. There was NO other way out of the box. And so it goes.
They may have to wait very long in that case according to a new demographics study indicating erroneous/fraudulent data on Pali population:
West Bank/Gaza demographic study: The 1.5 million population gap.
One good programme... in principle. I just cannot see neither political will for its implementation in any Israeli party worth of the name, nor conditions which could do it possible. Alas.
The UN factbook says the ferility in Gaza is the highest in the world, about 7, and around 5 or so on the West Bank. Maybe it is wrong, but I doubt if it is that wrong. Plus, Israel is going to get relatively rather few Jewish immigrants going forward. They have sucked that well rather dry.
Judea and Samaria are the Weat Bank.
From the press release:
The research team discovered:
Fewer births: PA Ministry of Health birth reports were substantially lower than the number predicted by the PBS.
Lower Fertility Rates: Palestinian fertility rates declined from the mid-90’s through 2003, according to PA Ministry of Health, consistent with the trend occurring in other Middle Eastern Arab societies.
Net Emigration: Instead of the large immigration originally projected by the PA, the Territories experienced a steady net emigration averaging 10,000 a year.
Double Counting: 210,000 Jerusalem Arabs who are already counted in Israel’s population survey were included in the PA survey.
Inclusion of non-residents: Palestinians with IDs living abroad for over one year were included in the PA Census & Projection.
Internal migration: 150,000 PA Arabs who have legally relocated to Israel since 1993 are still counted by the PA..
I meant the "CIA" factbook. My error.
http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_early_palestine_judea_samaria.php
A link to a map and discussion of Judea and Samaria.
I absolutely agree with you, and I get villified for it on a daily basis. Most folks already know my vote (Kadima).
"I started ranting about getting a Wall about 4 years before Sharon on this very site. It seemed just so well, obvious. There was NO other way out of the box. And so it goes."
The first to have the idea...maybe when you posted about it -perhaps it got back to Sharon.
"Judea and Samaria are the Weat Bank."
Thank you for that.
Polls close at 10 PM local time. In the States you will start to see results Tuesday evening. Final numbers of mandates will be known by Wednesday or Thursday.
My expectation is Kadima winning, Labour second, Likud and Yisrael Beitenu will be very close for a distant third. The last Maagar Mohot poll showed Likud fourth (12 seats). Of course, Yisrael Beitenu is the right as well.
Great link - thanks.
Paul
Yep, and with no jobs and no big pay-out from the West, they might just want to be moving along. The main reason there are as many so-called Palestinians as there are was the presence of Israeli enterprise and jobs.
Prime Minister Sharon was a late adopter of separation. It really became a national discussion when Ehud Barak adopted it in his waning days in office. His famous fall, 2000 "Us over here, them over there" speech (which much of the left called racist) was the real beginning, though some (like Uzi Dayan) were talking about the idea even earlier.
Exactly!
Indeed, any such attempt would yield international intervention on the Palestinian side, much as we saw in Kosovo. That is not a prospect I would relish.
I'll be happy with keeping the major settlement blocs, the Jewish enclave in Hebron and the settlement in the Hebron hills (which Avi Dichter claimed Kadima would keep), and that we contain the Palestinians and minimize their ability to cause harm.
Well the US has "open" borders.
That hasn't worked terribly well, has it?
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