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Congress Told of More ATF Abuses, Reforms Suggested
CNSNews.com ^ | March 29, 2006 | Jeff Johnson

Posted on 03/29/2006 12:40:56 PM PST by neverdem

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To: Welsh Rabbit

He is the sacrificial lamb; if the Tuscon PD takes a benevolent attitude toward him now the BATF will began to take an unhealthy interest in the department. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend". If the BATF is surveilling you how do you get a credible drop and what happens when you get caught with it?????????


21 posted on 03/29/2006 1:19:03 PM PST by kublia khan (Absolute war brings total victory)
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To: Joe Brower
Unbelievable.

They go after a guy, who's sworn to uphold the law and serve his community, and is still pursued by the ATF when it was obvious he did nothing wrong.

Not only that, he assumes a huge debt, he gets his "job" back, and gets b*tch slapped with a suspension by the City with whom he swore to protect.

So much for playing by the rules.

22 posted on 03/29/2006 1:22:46 PM PST by kstewskis ("I don't know what I know, but I know that it's big".....Jerry Fletcher)
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To: neverdem

Ever since ATF came into being one of its primary aims has been to restrict legal trafficing in firearms by making FFL licensing as close to impossible as it could while working to revoke as many existing FFL licenses as possible. Law abiding citizens are the targets, of course, as it is so much easier to nail people who are open and above-board in their dealings than it is to actually confront criminals. Also safer as they are less likely to open fire on you when you storm their business or residence.

What is likely to happen is that once the law-abiding get a load of what the ATF is all about many will decide that the law can go to he## and start dealing without informing the government of what they are doing. This will create a whole new batch of "criminals" for the ATF to chase giving them more cause to ask for even more draconian regulations and laws and so it goes round-and-round until they get what they want - a de facto repeal of the 2nd Amendment. I would not be in the least surprised that an underground firearms network consisting of otherwise law-abiding citizens already exists and is growing.


23 posted on 03/29/2006 1:23:53 PM PST by scory
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To: PeterFinn

Headshot.


24 posted on 03/29/2006 1:29:12 PM PST by green iguana
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To: absolootezer0
make it simple. ATF demands 100% perfection. check their records, if ONE record of theirs is out of order, indict them all.

If that were possible, they'd all be in jail, or out by now, but permanently barred from possessing firearms, including in their work.

25 posted on 03/29/2006 1:30:26 PM PST by El Gato
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To: neverdem

Disband the ATF. They have no use.


26 posted on 03/29/2006 1:30:31 PM PST by Ptarmigan (Proud bunny hater and killer)
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To: Ptarmigan

don't disband.. transfer them all to border patrol. if they keep the same policies and procedures, we'll never have another illegal immigrant again.


27 posted on 03/29/2006 1:33:55 PM PST by absolootezer0 ("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
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To: TexasCajun
Lucky the AFT didn't burn his home down with him and his family in it.

Or stomp his wife's cat to death while searching his home.

28 posted on 03/29/2006 1:34:14 PM PST by Centurion2000 (Islam's true face: http://makeashorterlink.com/?J169127BC)
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To: sailor4321
the agency should be abolished, its staff fired and its responsibilities turned over to the FBI abolished, as well.
29 posted on 03/29/2006 1:35:58 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: absolootezer0
Good point! I never thought of that. Stupid me! D'OH!
30 posted on 03/29/2006 1:36:54 PM PST by Ptarmigan (Proud bunny hater and killer)
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To: Joe Brower
"More news about our favorite people.

Sickening, but not surprising.

Massive legal resources are but another tool in the JBT arsenal.

While I'm sure the BATFags tactics team would much rather have the adrenalin rush associated with a 'rightous raid' to slap down the peasants, they like to let their legal staffs get in on the fun.

Backed by the full faith and resources of the US Govt, the BATFag legal teams glean equal satisfaction by driving a 'citizen' to financial ruin, and by example teaching the rest of us 'citizens' a lesson in who's boss.
(Note: see Waco and Ruby Ridge)

Note to Claire: Is it time yet?

Thanks for the ping JB.

Stand Fast

/jasper

31 posted on 03/29/2006 1:37:16 PM PST by Jasper (Stand Fast, Craigellachie !)
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To: neverdem

If you had an audit of the BATF internal and prosecutorial paperwork, I'd wager that they would do far worse than 90% accuracy. It would be interesting to see if the BATF could be found as nearly compliant as most FFL dealers.


32 posted on 03/29/2006 1:37:43 PM PST by Ghengis (Alexander was a wuss!)
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To: TexasCajun
Lucky the AFT didn't burn his home down with him and his family in it

How did the American Federation of Teachers (AFT) get involved in this matter? While they do seem to be anti-arms rights, I don't think they are out burning down gun owners houses, yet that is.

:)

33 posted on 03/29/2006 1:38:08 PM PST by El Gato
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To: El Gato
Hey! I stutter(multiple post) and am dyslectic(misspell)!

Just be glad I don't have Tourettes Syndrome! hehe

34 posted on 03/29/2006 1:43:21 PM PST by TexasCajun
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To: neverdem

35 posted on 03/29/2006 1:45:14 PM PST by Doomonyou (FR doesn't suffer fools lightly.)
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To: sailor4321
After watching these SOB's for over 20 years I'm convinced the agency should be abolished, its staff fired and its responsibilities turned over to the FBI.

Remember, it wasn't the BATFE that burned down the "compound" in Waco, it was the FBI. The BATFE didn't shoot Vicki Weaver at Ruby Ridge, Lon Horiuchi of the FBI did. Now in both cases the BATF was the instigator of the "action", but the FBI provided the "muscle". Not that the BATF hasn't stomped a few kittens and slammed a few pregnant ladies up against a few walls, causing them to lose their babies.

Still, you might want to rethink that last part. How about we just eliminate the BATFE and the laws which they enforce. Turn the explosives safety stuff over to OSHA and/or the EPA and just eliminate the rest of the Unconstitutional laws they enforce. (They no longer collect the taxes on the "A" and "T", since they were moved to Justice from Treasury in the Homeland Security reorganization).

36 posted on 03/29/2006 1:45:49 PM PST by El Gato
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To: neverdem

You would think Waco would have been evidence enough.


37 posted on 03/29/2006 1:49:58 PM PST by thoughtomator (Since all politicians understand is money, I donate ONLY to those who oppose illegal immigration)
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To: looscnnn

And that's because our current President, elected with the overwhelming support of the RKBA lobby, is not able to fix anything larger than a burnt out light bulb? Why the pass for W? He should fix this. He's a "R" with two "R" houses to pass his laws.


38 posted on 03/29/2006 2:00:09 PM PST by Jack Black
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To: Doomonyou; Travis McGee

McGee BTT.

39 posted on 03/29/2006 2:00:25 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Welsh Rabbit

Well, Tucson and presumably the Tucson PD is full of liberal Democrats. Therefore what he was probably guilty of was NOT committing a crime. Democrats only coddle actual criminals.


40 posted on 03/29/2006 2:03:19 PM PST by Still Thinking (Disregard the law of unintended consequences at your own risk.)
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