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Something smells in the case of released hostage Jill Carroll.
4-1-06 | JABBERBONK

Posted on 03/31/2006 3:38:24 AM PST by JABBERBONK

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To: propertius

But she said she wasn't threatened! She gained weight and seems to have suffered no bad physical effects. They couldn't have kept me that long anyway.


121 posted on 04/01/2006 5:48:56 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: propertius
You, like many others here, would clearly rather she was dead?

How can one be so dumb and yet find it's way here.

122 posted on 04/01/2006 7:12:41 AM PST by SouthernFreebird
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To: propertius
You really do believe this guff, don't you?

It's funny how people who have spent too long chained to their keyboards become so engulfed in conspiracy and lose touch with reality even more than a 28-year-old girl who has been kept in isolation for 82 days.

I choose not the automatically believe a story that is not even consistent with itself. I refuse accept at face value the actions and words of somebody who has demonstrated themselves to be hostile.

Every word of Jill Carroll's story may be true. I am just not willing to roll over and buy into the feel-good version without question.

So, I guess I will just have to disagree with you Propertius.

(BTW, did you notice how I managed to disagree with you without being an insulting little snot? You should try it sometime!)

123 posted on 04/01/2006 7:59:31 AM PST by bondjamesbond (Rice '08)
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To: JABBERBONK

what were her lies? I kind of caught the release story from the corner of my eye on fox news. what did she say?


124 posted on 04/01/2006 2:49:31 PM PST by Big Guy and Rusty 99 (what?)
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To: bondjamesbond

Sadly, after the polite beginning to your reply, your last line cast you in exactly the same mould you made for me...

I know Jill, and I therefore will accept her version of the story rather than your interpretation of it...


125 posted on 04/01/2006 11:17:55 PM PST by propertius
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To: SouthernFreebird
Can we try that again grammatically? Otherwise I'm completely mystified as to what exactly it is that you are trying to say.
126 posted on 04/01/2006 11:24:58 PM PST by propertius
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To: bondjamesbond; jpsb; ThirstyMan; zook; Yaelle


Jill Carroll Statement
RAMSTEIN AIRBASE, GERMANY — I'm so happy to be free and am looking forward to spending a lot of time with my family. I want to express my deep appreciation to all the people who worked so long and hard for my release. I am humbled by the sympathy and support expressed by so many people during my kidnapping.

In the past few days, the US military and officials have been extremely generous, and I am grateful for their help. Throughout this ordeal, many US agencies have committed themselves to bringing me safely home.

My colleagues at The Christian Science Monitor have worked ceaselessly to secure my release, and worked with security consultants to do so. Many other news organizations, both inside and outside of Iraq, as well as many officials from Iraq and other countries, worked hard to bring about my freedom.

So many people around the world spoke out on my behalf.

Thank you, all of you.

During my last night in captivity, my captors forced me to participate in a propaganda video. They told me they would let me go if I cooperated. I was living in a threatening environment, under their control, and wanted to go home alive. I agreed.

Things that I was forced to say while captive are now being taken by some as an accurate reflection of my personal views. They are not. The people who kidnapped me and murdered Alan Enwiya are criminals, at best. They robbed Alan of his life and devastated his family. They put me, my family and my friends--and all those around the world, who have prayed so fervently for my release--through a horrific experience. I was, and remain, deeply angry with the people who did this.

I also gave a TV interview to the Iraqi Islamic Party shortly after my release. The party had promised me the interview would never be aired on television, and broke their word. At any rate, fearing retribution from my captors, I did not speak freely. Out of fear I said I wasn't threatened. In fact, I was threatened many times.

Also, at least two false statements about me have been widely aired: That I refused to travel and cooperate with the US military and that I refused to discuss my captivity with US officials. Again, neither is true.

I want to be judged as a journalist, not as a hostage. I remain as committed as ever to fairness and accuracy--to discovering the truth--and so I will not engage in polemics. But let me be clear: I abhor all who kidnap and murder civilians, and my captors are clearly guilty of both crimes.

Now, I ask for the time to heal. This has been a taxing 12 weeks for me and my family. Please allow us some quiet time alone, together.

Richard Bergenheim statement

The Monitor wants to add its gratitude to everyone who is helping Jill return home. In addition we want to thank again all those in the Iraqi press who have been tireless in their campaign for Jill's release; we wish to thank the politicians, sheiks, and clerics in Iraq, Jordan, Egypt and other countries who have spoken out as well. And we need to thank all the citizens of Iraq, regular people like you and me, who continue to speak out strongly as well. We are in debt to too many people to thank them all. Jill will be home soon. As she writes, it is a time for healing. Let the healing begin.




http://www.csmonitor.com/earlyed/early_world040106.htm


127 posted on 04/02/2006 12:01:02 AM PST by propertius
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To: propertius

Yeah, I kinda fell off the wagon there at the end. I take it you understood my point.

In any case, it looks like Jill Carroll is getting her revised story out there. I suspect that will be the end of it.


128 posted on 04/02/2006 4:26:19 AM PDT by bondjamesbond (Rice '08)
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To: propertius

bump. thx


129 posted on 04/02/2006 6:54:19 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: propertius
You have done a great job defending someone you personally know and I wanted to commend you for that.

Freepers are very smart people and their gut instinct is saying that something is not quite right. Over the years, I have learned to trust these basic Freeper instincts and pay attention to them.

Eventually, you and I will learn what actually happened to Jill Carroll, while she was held captive. This will take about six months to sort out, but we will all learned something important and applicable to our own personal lives.

Until I learn otherwise, I welcome Jill Carrol back to America with open arms and will treat her as a hero.

130 posted on 04/02/2006 12:29:36 PM PDT by Hunble
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To: Perdogg

Maybe something does smell:

Subject: Jill Carroll's "release in Iraq" and how the libs will use it to dupe America

I just heard from a good friend of mine who attended the University of Massachusetts when Jill Carroll was a journalism student there and a reporter on the school newspaper. Since UMASS is not Ohio State, he not only personally knew her there, but read her articles, and
what he has to say is incredibly unsettling if you have seen her on TV the past few days since her release. To suggest she is about to be used by all of liberalism and the leftist media to hurt the USA and portray further abandonment of our troops "to the troops" is suggested in his note to me, which I have paraphrased to keep his
identity confidential. I know this guy well and he is a super straight shooter, and his knowledge is firsthand. Read on:

"I have some inside information that I ask you circulate so that everyone is not blindsided by what seems likely to happen once the leftists begin to use the Jill Carroll release by the terrorists in Iraq. I was amused to see America's media this morning debating whether Jill Carroll is suffering from the "Stockholm Syndrome" as a result of her captivity in Iraq. In case you and your colleagues
find yourselves somehow being drawn into this debate, which I expect will only grow in the next couple of days once she starts giving major media interviews, I wanted to give you a bit of background on Jill. I actually know Jill quite well from UMass, where she was a reporter for the school newspaper. When Jill makes comments about
how her suffering was nothing compared to the Iraqi people and that she is rooting for the insurgents, Jill is NOT suffering from Stockholm Syndrome. She is an extreme liberal [probably more communist/socialist]; she has never been a fan of America [which she used to spell Amerikkka in her articles], she hates the military, and
she despises "republikkkans" as she likes to write. I have no doubt that she went to Iraq with a political agenda and wouldn't be surprised to hear some outrageous things come out of her mouth in the upcoming days. She is an activist way beyond Cindy Sheehan------ so watch out. We are in for a whole string of anti-us and anti-military
comments. Mark my words, you are going to see her on Larry King talking about how the military is abusing the Iraqi people and how bad the war is, and about how righteous her captors are."

So----- to be forewarned is to be forearmed. Please make sure we get this into the hands of as many folks on the side of the USA and the troops as possible, as she is surely going to be used by the media to try to undermine all that is going on in Iraq.


131 posted on 04/02/2006 4:50:58 PM PDT by Gracey
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To: JABBERBONK
This is very petty minded of me I know. But after hearing how she immersed herself in the Arab culture for three years and was so into the respect and all I was a tad taken back to see her bare headed with grown out Kool Aid red hair!
132 posted on 04/02/2006 4:54:20 PM PDT by A knight without armor
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Well since hearing her retraction the other day I must now admit I have changed my opinion of her somewhat.....now I believe her to be both a sympathizer and a LIAR!
133 posted on 04/02/2006 6:57:56 PM PDT by JABBERBONK
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To: Gracey

This information, if true, confirms my suspicions.


134 posted on 04/02/2006 8:01:56 PM PDT by NewLand (Posting against liberalism since the 20th century!)
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To: bondjamesbond; Kieri

Hmmmmm, seems that she is doing exactly what I said she would do. Reports were doing nothing but helping the terrorists by showing Jill Carroll's comments immediately after she was freed. Sad that the real account(as I said would come a week after her release) will get little to no airtime, unlike her 1st statement.


135 posted on 04/02/2006 8:19:56 PM PDT by SengirV
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To: lentulusgracchus; Gracey

Looks like Gracey got the email too.


136 posted on 04/14/2006 7:10:55 AM PDT by DrewsDad
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To: Joe Boucher
copy some of her pictures and do an eye close up. What you will see is NO FEAR! I always though that strange.


Like today's photo of Pat "stoned" Kennedy. That look was of pure arrogance to his minions.

Surely to Gawd the people of Mass and NJ are not this stupid?
137 posted on 05/06/2006 7:12:39 PM PDT by Tannerone
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To: Tannerone

Yes Tanner, the good folks there are that stupid.


138 posted on 05/07/2006 3:06:34 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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